First 3 Tourniquet or First 3 Mortification

Luke Easter wrote:

TZ75 wrote:80’s Slayer and Van Halen (especially the Roth years) didn’t sound like bands that used a metronome. 

They seemed to embrace the human errors and leave the small mistakes in the recordings. It’s a part of the charm. The music had more of a live or organic feel. 

Sometimes “loose and organic” is better than robotic perfection.

Now you're comparing apples to lamp posts, and blurring the lines. Motorhead is nothing like Megadeth, and Van Halen is even further removed. As to Slayer, I can pretty much guarantee they used a click for the bulk of their catalog. Playing to a click does not mean a performance is "robotic perfection," although it can. Swing and feel can be maintained even with a click. 

I'm curious to hear some of your recorded work.

MagnusPrime wrote:Personally I love the way Countdown sounds. It's my favorite Megadeth album. 

The guitars had a "thicker" sound on CTE as opposed to earlier Megadeth albums, on which the guitars sounded kind of thin to me. 

Actually Megadeth didn't really start to bulk up/thicken their guitar sound until TSHF. 

Of course in the early days, Metallica always had that crunch going on while Megadeth was busier on the fretwork, but had a thinner guitar sound overall.

It's funny - over the years, Megadeth beefed up their tone while Metallica's guitar sound thinned out. They traded off LOL!

TZ75 wrote:

Luke Easter wrote:

TZ75 wrote:80’s Slayer and Van Halen (especially the Roth years) didn’t sound like bands that used a metronome. 

They seemed to embrace the human errors and leave the small mistakes in the recordings. It’s a part of the charm. The music had more of a live or organic feel. 

Sometimes “loose and organic” is better than robotic perfection.

Now you're comparing apples to lamp posts, and blurring the lines. Motorhead is nothing like Megadeth, and Van Halen is even further removed. As to Slayer, I can pretty much guarantee they used a click for the bulk of their catalog. Playing to a click does not mean a performance is "robotic perfection," although it can. Swing and feel can be maintained even with a click. 

I'm curious to hear some of your recorded work.

A little awry are we? Gee whiz

Even if I’m incorrect and you are right, is it worth the attitude? Btw… Motörhead had influenced the whole genre of thrash. That’s what thrash is… a mix of punk and NWOBHM. Van Halen has influenced countless bands in metal (like Pantera). So I would call it “apples and lampposts”. 

Also, I told you that besides the metronome thing (and I’m willing to stand corrected), I just don’t like Max Norman’s production on Countdown. I’m not saying it’s a bad album. I like most of the songs. It’s just my opinion. Everyone has opinions. 

The bulk of Slayer… who knows. Neither of us were in the studio to watch. I did say 80’s Slayer though. And Show No Merch through Reign in Blood sound more “off the cuff” and spontaneous to me. If they did use a metronome, it didn’t make much of a difference. I like the little mistakes and human errors. 

As far as your “drop the mic” comment asking where my recorded work… 

Why would I need any? Am I not allowed to voice an opinion? That’s like when fans were telling musicians to keep their mouths shut about politics because they are not qualified to comment. What a boring world this would be if we all agreed about everything. No one is allowed to say anything sucks or isn’t their cup of tea (the nicer way of saying it). 

Bottomline: I don’t hate the Countdown album! It’s just not my favorite.

seth wrote:

TZ75 wrote:

Luke Easter wrote:

TZ75 wrote:80’s Slayer and Van Halen (especially the Roth years) didn’t sound like bands that used a metronome. 

They seemed to embrace the human errors and leave the small mistakes in the recordings. It’s a part of the charm. The music had more of a live or organic feel. 

Sometimes “loose and organic” is better than robotic perfection.

Now you're comparing apples to lamp posts, and blurring the lines. Motorhead is nothing like Megadeth, and Van Halen is even further removed. As to Slayer, I can pretty much guarantee they used a click for the bulk of their catalog. Playing to a click does not mean a performance is "robotic perfection," although it can. Swing and feel can be maintained even with a click. 

I'm curious to hear some of your recorded work.

A little awry are we? Gee whiz

Even if I’m incorrect and you are right, is it worth the attitude? Btw… Motörhead had influenced the whole genre of thrash. That’s what thrash is… a mix of punk and NWOBHM. Van Halen has influenced countless bands in metal (like Pantera). So I would call it “apples and lampposts”. 

Also, I told you that besides the metronome thing (and I’m willing to stand corrected), I just don’t like Max Norman’s production on Countdown. I’m not saying it’s a bad album. I like most of the songs. It’s just my opinion. Everyone has opinions. 

The bulk of Slayer… who knows. Neither of us were in the studio to watch. I did say 80’s Slayer though. And Show No Merch through Reign in Blood sound more “off the cuff” and spontaneous to me. If they did use a metronome, it didn’t make much of a difference. I like the little mistakes and human errors. 

As far as your “drop the mic” comment asking where my recorded work… 

Why would I need any? Am I not allowed to voice an opinion? That’s like when fans were telling musicians to keep their mouths shut about politics because they are not qualified to comment. What a boring world this would be if we all agreed about everything. No one is allowed to say anything sucks or isn’t their cup of tea (the nicer way of saying it). 

Bottomline: I don’t hate the Countdown album! It’s just not my favorite.

To be fair, a lot of celebrities would be much better off keeping their mouths shut about politics

CrimsonWarrior wrote:If I record a crappy vocal cover of Holy Wars, will I be permitted to speak again?

CrimsonWarrior wrote:Lol, C2C slaps and you know it.

TZ75 wrote:
Bottomline: I don’t hate the Countdown album! It’s just not my favorite.

CrimsonWarrior wrote:Lol, C2C slaps and you know it.

Airola wrote:

TZ75 wrote:
Bottomline: I don’t hate the Countdown album! It’s just not my favorite.

My hot take:
Countdown is Megadeth's most overrated album.
To me it's got nothing to do with them using a metronome or them feeling robotic. It's all about the songs and I just don't really care that much for a lot of them.

The only songs I really like are This Was My Life and the title track. Ashes in Your Mouth is one of the better ones too, but not as good as those two I mentioned.

I dislike the fan favorite Sweating Bullets a lot. Probably their most overrated song.
Songs like Architecture of Aggression, High Speed Dirt, Psychotron, Captive Honour and Foreclosure of a Dream are all average at best.

None of them would get any better with a raw "non-robotic" production.


Youthanasia is a way better album.
I even like Cryptic Writings more than Countdown.

CrimsonWarrior wrote:Lol, C2C slaps and you know it.

Raegoul wrote:C2C is dope you morons. I can show you my recorded work but they are some DIY teenage punk rock demos from 1995.

scottmitchell74 wrote:

CrimsonWarrior wrote:Lol, C2C slaps and you know it.

Oy. I have tried so many times over the years... it just does nothing for me.  

Pethead wrote:I even like about 2/3 of C2C, although it’s my least favorite TQT by a large margin. It’s hard for me to enjoy every track of a 15-track album.

Pethead wrote:Behold the power of PETHEAD METAL (when he was 20 and had hair):