Coronavirus - What is your local situation?

I briefly flirted with MeWe, but this was during its infancy, and not much was going on there.  I may have to revisit.

Yeah, so far there's not much going on with MeWe but everyone keeps saying we need an alternative so I'm ready if it happens.

BaleMaster wrote:I briefly flirted with MeWe, but this was during its infancy, and not much was going on there.  I may have to revisit.

Black Rider wrote:Yeah, so far there's not much going on with MeWe but everyone keeps saying we need an alternative so I'm ready if it happens.

The ONLY way for MeWe to take off is to make it work.  You have to post to it just as much as you would Facebook.  You have to keep inviting friends over especially the ones you know are fed up with FB.  If you don't do the work, then you will be stuck with the ultra-liberal Facebook telling you what you can and cannot see.  They have become another piece in the propaganda machine of the Dem. Nat'l. Convention.  If you are fine with their censorship of conservative views, then don't do anything.  If you are sick to death of it, then start posting everything at both sites at first.  Invite your friends, and start posting some things there that you would not on Facebook.  If they join you, then we slowly start weening people off the teat of Facebook, Instagram (owned by Facebook) and Twitter (just as liberal).



On a positive note, most of Tennessee will be lifting the 50% restrictions on retail and restaurants on Friday, May 22.  Things like bowling alleys and movie theaters can reopen but with restrictions.  I am ready to go see a movie in the theater.

In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.

I am listening to Rudy Guliani's radio show and he just interviewed a lawyer who has filed 13 law suits so far on behalf of business owners and churches, against the draconian laws of the Governors in some of these states and cities (mostly in California).

I hope more of these suits get filed, and that they win.

ThomasEversole wrote:In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.

Those business owners need to file a lawsuit to challenge this.  A quarantine is typically 14 days.  We've been down for months.  Your governor has no rights to keep everything shut down for an additional 4 months.  Ya'll need to be putting together public protests as well.  Don't accept these draconian, Orwellian measures any longer, people! It is time for another Tea Party (not the political party).

ThomasEversole wrote:In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.

It looks like that was all repealed on May 20

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/pritzker-withdraws-emergency-rule-to-enforce-stay-at-home-order/2275422/

https://www.wifr.com/content/news/Pritzker-to-withdraw-emergency-order-criminalizing-businesses-who-defy-stay-at-home-order-570631111.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-emergency-rule-illinois/partly-false-claim-emergency-rule-in-illinois-threatens-individuals-with-arrest-misdemeanor-for-ignoring-stay-at-home-orders-or-criticizing-governor-on-social-media-idUSKBN22X2G5

So my neighbor was doing a prison sentence for his 9th DUI/OVI (that I know of, he's had 4, that I know of since being my neighbor, one right out in front of our houses).  He was doing a 2 year sentence, getting out this coming December with good behavior.  I come home last night and he's out mowing the lawn thanks to the CCP virus.  Today my mom tells me that church-camp in the state I grew up in is cancelled for this summer.

My attitude is Really bad about this whole thing right now.  I know it's my responsibility to address my attitude.

Our local church is opening this weekend, with four different masses (likely to avoid having too many people in the Church at once).

Alldata - quarantine has no specific time limit. It's based off of the incubation period (Ebola is 21 days) and in other time periods as much as 40 days. It could also be based on how long it takes people to completely heal from the illness, in the case of covid-19, that would be just over a month. Given that we dont have the ability to test as thoroughly as we should we dont know who is contagious or asymptomatic or not we are taking more extreme measures that are warranted.

L8T wrote:So my neighbor was doing a prison sentence for his 9th DUI/OVI (that I know of, he's had 4, that I know of since being my neighbor, one right out in front of our houses).  He was doing a 2 year sentence, getting out this coming December with good behavior.  I come home last night and he's out mowing the lawn thanks to the CCP virus.  Today my mom tells me that church-camp in the state I grew up in is cancelled for this summer.

My attitude is Really bad about this whole thing right now.  I know it's my responsibility to address my attitude.

There have been states where they have released prisoners and locked up pastors for violating the orders.

Amazing isn't it?

Setting the guilty free and locking up the innocent

ThomasEversole wrote:In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.

Governor Flintstone? Cavorting about with his wife in other states while the citizenry remain confined? Yabba dabba DON'T.

Guenther321 wrote:Alldata - quarantine has no specific time limit.  It's based off of the incubation period (Ebola is 21 days) and in other time periods as much as 40 days.  It could also be based on how long it takes people to completely heal from the illness, in the case of covid-19, that would be just over a month.  Given that we dont have the ability to test as thoroughly as we should we dont know who is contagious or asymptomatic or not we are taking more extreme measures that are warranted.

Oh please.  Going by that logic, these draconian tyrants can keep us incarcerated forever.  

No one said forever....

I'm just saying that had we not shut down, things might be just as bad as the original numbers that were predicted. I just dont understand why so many people are ready to throw caution to the wind completely...

Guenther321 wrote:No one said forever....

I'm just saying that had we not shut down, things might be just as bad as the original numbers that were predicted.  I just dont understand why so many people are ready to throw caution to the wind completely...

Because the models have consistantly been overbloated, the death rates have had to be adjusted downward, we have unemployment higher than the Great Depression, businesses that will never be able to recover, and many cities now having spikes in suicides and having more deaths from that than COVID.  The "cure" has been worse than the disease!

While memes are oversimplified ways of making a point, one I have seen is true.  Many people do believe that quarantining the sick is great, but quarantining the healthy is nothing more than tyranny.  When you see the governors and mayors using strong arm tactics and telling their people how many more months they would like to see this continue while promising huge tax increases, people are at their breaking points and ready to rebel.  If we go into a second shutdown when this rears its head in the fall like the flu does every year, I would not be bit surprised to see it get bloody as people begin to truly try to overthrow the socialist regime that is trying to set itself up through this whole shutdown process.

alldatndensum wrote:
Those business owners need to file a lawsuit to challenge this.  A quarantine is typically 14 days.

A quarantine is typically for sick people too. This 'rona was the first time healthy people were quarantined.

Bought4Life wrote:
It looks like that was all repealed on May 20

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/pritzker-withdraws-emergency-rule-to-enforce-stay-at-home-order/2275422/

https://www.wifr.com/content/news/Pritzker-to-withdraw-emergency-order-criminalizing-businesses-who-defy-stay-at-home-order-570631111.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-emergency-rule-illinois/partly-false-claim-emergency-rule-in-illinois-threatens-individuals-with-arrest-misdemeanor-for-ignoring-stay-at-home-orders-or-criticizing-governor-on-social-media-idUSKBN22X2G5

Thank you for those links! I noticed things looking a little different around here the past few days.

A local restaurant opened up with takeout orders. Man, it was some good Cajun Fried Catfish!

This shutdown has really not seen a quarantine of healthy people. Restricting your travels and reducing unnecessary contact with other people is not quarantine. It is something that we can find on record as far back as smallpox outbreaks during the colonial period.

A bloody uprising? Seriously? Would t it just be easier to run campaigns and vote them out? Our colonial ancestors staged a revolution because they had no voice in government - they couldn't vote or have any impact on taxes, trade, or any other aspect of governance, so they tried everything they could to get that voice until they only had one option left. Today we have a voice - we can vote, we can run campaigns, anyone can run for office in any state. If we want we can even meet our elected officials to discuss things personally. By the time I was 18 I had met NYS Senator Tom Libous 3 times and he even spoke at my high school graduation. We have options that our ancestors did not have, so even mentioning a bloody revolution at this stage is the most absurd thing I can imagine.


For the record, I havent found the actual order, but from what I can tell Cuomo's order requiring nursing homes to take recovering covid-19 patients o ly required it if the nursing home had the staff and the proper facilities to do so, and it was left up to the nursing homes themselves to make that determination. Again, I havent found the actual order, but that's just what it looks like to me....

Guenther321 wrote:For the record, I havent found the actual order, but from what I can tell Cuomo's order requiring nursing homes to take recovering covid-19 patients o ly required it if the nursing home had the staff and the proper facilities to do so, and it was left up to the nursing homes themselves to make that determination.  Again, I havent found the actual order, but that's just what it looks like to me....

Untrue.   Not only were the nursing homes and long-term care facilities given no choice, but they were given no warning and no time to prepare.

A few nursing home and long term care facilities even contacted the NYS Health Department and pleaded with them to be allowed to send Covid positive patients to the Javits Center, or the Navy ship Comfort, which (along with Samaritan's Purse) had many empty beds.

Here is part of the directive issued on March 25, 2020:

"No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission."

I am not sure what is motivating you to run cover for Andrew Cuomo.  Isn't that the job of the mainstream media?  
They might not like the fact that you are stepping into their shoes.  Just sayin'.

I'm not running cover for anybody. I admitted that I hadn't found the actual order in my post.

Again, I just really hate seeing people point fingers at the wrongs of one side, when their own side just as screwed up. I do believe that the Democrats are idiots. I also believe that the Republicans are idiots.
Anymore I dont see much hope, or anything positive in either party.

Constantine wrote:

Guenther321 wrote:For the record, I havent found the actual order, but from what I can tell Cuomo's order requiring nursing homes to take recovering covid-19 patients o ly required it if the nursing home had the staff and the proper facilities to do so, and it was left up to the nursing homes themselves to make that determination.  Again, I havent found the actual order, but that's just what it looks like to me....

Untrue.   Not only were the nursing homes and long-term care facilities given no choice, but they were given no warning and no time to prepare.

A few nursing home and long term care facilities even contacted the NYS Health Department and pleaded with them to be allowed to send Covid positive patients to the Javits Center, or the Navy ship Comfort, which (along with Samaritan's Purse) had many empty beds.

Here is part of the directive issued on March 25, 2020:

"No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission."

I am not sure what is motivating you to run cover for Andrew Cuomo.  Isn't that the job of the mainstream media?  
They might not like the fact that you are stepping into their shoes.  Just sayin'.

Tennessee has begun doing this as we have begun opening back up.  Our so called conservative governor is showing himself to be a true RINO.

Restaurants are supposed to be opening back up to full capacity here.  However, they are to keep tables 6 feet apart.  Most of them had to do this to get the establishment to the previous 50%.  So, the governor's new order allowing them to open fully but with such hard restrictions means they are still at 50%!  All he has done is paint over the white stripes on a skunk and call it a cat, but it still stinks!

Guenther321 wrote:This shutdown has really not seen a quarantine of healthy people.  Restricting your travels and reducing unnecessary contact with other people is not quarantine.  It is something that we can find on record as far back as smallpox outbreaks during the colonial period.

Semantics.  Dictionary.com, Webster, and various other sites, medical and not, indicate that "quarantine" is an imposed or enforced isolation.  Sick, to prevent sickness, or not even sickness at all.  Sure, voluntary quarantine is a thing, but that's not quite what's going on here.  Likewise, its not like the government has armed posts outside of our homes to make sure we stay inside.

Guenther321 wrote:
Again, I just really hate seeing people point fingers at the wrongs of one side, when their own side just as screwed up.  I do believe that the Democrats are idiots.  I also believe that the Republicans are idiots.  
Anymore I dont see much hope, or anything positive in either party.

I don't believe either side are idiots.  I believe each side makes mistakes, but some choices made (like throwing business owners in jail for trying to run their business, which is now overruled) have a deliberate intent behind them.

Besides, the idiot rule is just like the jerk rule.  If I run into a jerk in the morning, well, I just ran into a jerk.  If I'm surrounded by jerks, then maybe I'm the jerk.

ThomasEversole wrote:

Bought4Life wrote:
It looks like that was all repealed on May 20

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/pritzker-withdraws-emergency-rule-to-enforce-stay-at-home-order/2275422/

https://www.wifr.com/content/news/Pritzker-to-withdraw-emergency-order-criminalizing-businesses-who-defy-stay-at-home-order-570631111.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-emergency-rule-illinois/partly-false-claim-emergency-rule-in-illinois-threatens-individuals-with-arrest-misdemeanor-for-ignoring-stay-at-home-orders-or-criticizing-governor-on-social-media-idUSKBN22X2G5

Thank you for those links!  I noticed things looking a little different around here the past few days.

A local restaurant opened up with takeout orders.  Man, it was some good Cajun Fried Catfish!

You are certainly welcome!

ThomasEversole wrote:


 Likewise, its not like the government has armed posts outside of our homes to make sure we stay inside.

Some states are not that far from it it. Last weekend, people went out and about in Fells Point (Baltimore) to enjoy the gorgeous weather, doing nothing but walking and talking, and they brought in a helicopter and police with dogs to disperse the crowds.

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/05/16/baltimore-fells-point-crowds-dispersed-by-police-coronavirus-stay-at-home-order/

Yesterday Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot raided a church for defying her unlawful orders.

Still think this "quarantine" is justified, Guenther?

This quarantine is just the test for the big takeover in my opinion. They want to see how many will squirm, share info and ideas, and revolt even in small ways.  When you hear people like Maxine Waters directly saying she does not want businesses to reopen and see Pelosi and others pushing for a full mail-in ballot that would be so easy to rig, you begin to see the full extent of one party's attempt at convincing people with the lamestream media's help to welcome and embrace their socialist utopian dream they want to set up.  People are starting to wake up and see this.  This whole situation reads like it should either have been an extra chapter from "The Screwtape Letters" or "1984".