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Post by WildWorld on Mon May 11, 2020 9:20 pm

Our town still has a minor lockdown until May 25, but gyms, salons, and barbershops are now opening, with safety restrictions of course.

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Post by Black Rider on Mon May 11, 2020 9:25 pm

Where do you live WildWorld?
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Post by WildWorld on Mon May 11, 2020 9:30 pm

Mississippi

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Post by L8T on Mon May 11, 2020 10:08 pm

"Hero"

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Post by Erasmus on Tue May 12, 2020 12:51 am

Constantine wrote:^Yikes!   This lockdown has brought out the worst in some people.   We haven't had noisy neighbors but we do have roosters in my neighborhood that are very noisy, at all hours.  It's crazy because I live in an urban city.  I called animal control but they refuse to do anything to help.
That is a sound like an alarm, that would definitely wake people up. Why would they not take action on this? Then they wonder why someone will take matters into their own hands.
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Post by Constantine on Tue May 12, 2020 1:03 am

^I'm just surprised that the neighbors are putting up with this noise. I haven't talked to any about it yet but I don't understand why no one has hunted the roosters yet. Unless they are being used for illegal cock fights and the neighbors are afraid of the people doing that.
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Post by alldatndensum on Tue May 12, 2020 11:21 am

I am wondering if I will have a job next school year or not.  With the massive drop in sales tax revenue due to the virus shutdowns, our school system is letting go of a lot of teachers, EAs, etc.  They will not be purchasing new textbooks or new tech for the new school year.  Even some of the higher paying jobs with the school board are being done away with.  The county commission has told every department that it funds that they will have to make massive cuts across the board whether it be the crews that fix potholes or firefighters and cops.  Everyone is having to make cuts.  So, even if we opened up completely, jobs are still going to be dropping around here.  In my county, the school system is the largest employer with Amazon following closely behind.
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Post by MikeInFla on Tue May 12, 2020 12:23 pm

alldatndensum wrote:I am wondering if I will have a job next school year or not.  With the massive drop in sales tax revenue due to the virus shutdowns, our school system is letting go of a lot of teachers, EAs, etc.  They will not be purchasing new textbooks or new tech for the new school year.  Even some of the higher paying jobs with the school board are being done away with.  The county commission has told every department that it funds that they will have to make massive cuts across the board whether it be the crews that fix potholes or firefighters and cops.  Everyone is having to make cuts.  So, even if we opened up completely, jobs are still going to be dropping around here.  In my county, the school system is the largest employer with Amazon following closely behind.
Same in my household. As many of you may or may not know my wife was a high school teacher this year but quit at the end of Feb. The next week she found a job in support staff at an elementary school and loved it! She gave teaching a try and did it for 3-4 years and it just wasn't for her. She felt better being a support staff person and not having to deal with parents or rude students (that's a long story in itself). She only had her new job for about 3 weeks then schools shutdown. Last week she got a letter from the school saying due to cuts she would not be needed next year. She was greatly disappointed but kind of expected it. I told her she had the least seniority of anyone because she had only worked there a couple of weeks. The principal did tell her to keep an eye open for job openings on the district website for support staff at the school and they actually had one posted a couple of days ago. She applied but never heard anything back which was a bit odd. One of her coworkers did tell her it is typical to get the letter that you are not needed only to get another one right before school starts to ask you back so maybe, just maybe that will happen. If not oh well, then God has other plans.
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Post by Erasmus on Tue May 12, 2020 8:45 pm

We will be counting the cost of job losses many years after we stop counting the cost of Covid-19 deaths. Shows us how we are not in control when a microscopic virus can bring the world to a halt. Reminds me of the Tower of Babel.
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Post by Frozen Fire on Wed May 13, 2020 1:49 am

Governor Dewine cut Ohio's budget by 700 million dollars. He took 350 million of that from the schools. Our district's budget was cut immediately by over $600,000 and may have further cuts next school year. Needless to say people are not being replaced if they left and support staff will not be rehired unless the are required by law (such as 1-1 aids for special needs students). Class sizes will go up and jobs will be shuffled to make due.
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Post by MikeInFla on Wed May 13, 2020 7:28 am

We are huge fans of the show Monk. Last year we watched the entire series on Amazon Prime with our kids. if you have never seen it I suggest you binge watch it, it is an excellent show!

If you don't know who Adrian Monk is, he is a former detective and hypochondriac. it is so bad he had to leave the force but they still use him to help solve crimes. he is also very OCD. Anyway, when this whole pandemic started I mentioned Monk to my wife. I said "I wonder what Monk would do in all of this?". Well now we have our answer. Fast forward to 1:39. If you are a fan of the show you will enjoy the mini-reunion.
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Post by Constantine on Wed May 13, 2020 12:24 pm

^Monk is awesome!
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Post by Staybrite on Wed May 13, 2020 8:38 pm

Loved Monk, wish it would come back to television.
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Post by alldatndensum on Sat May 16, 2020 9:48 am

We went to a Mexican place last night with a couple from church in Nashville.  Mayor Cooper of Nashville has been one of the more power-mad mayors with this.  He has said that if you went to a restaurant without a mask that the health department would fine the owners $50 for every infraction.  So, we go in and the staff of course is wearing their protective gear.  We saw one mask dweller!  I guess people just aren't that concerned!

On a bright note, except for the 6 counties with higher case numbers, the governor is taking away restrictions on restaurants and retail next Friday.  They won't have to keep those establishments at 50% capacity anymore.  They are also reopening things like bars, allowing live music in bars, bowling alleys, movie theaters, etc.  These new openings will have restrictions for a few weeks.

I am so ready for this to be done.  If I get sick and die, so be it.  I will be at home with the Lord.  NONE of us are getting out of this world alive if the Lord delays His coming.

I have a 92 year old man at my church.  I asked him if he were worried about the virus.  He thinks he's already had it.  However, his answer to me was this, "Why should I worry about this?  I stand just as much chance of dying from being 92 as I do from getting a virus.  I've had a good run."

That sums it all up for me.
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Post by alldatndensum on Mon May 18, 2020 6:49 pm

I am now unfriending and blocking people on social media that have a differing opinion than mine about this virus, but ONLY if they get nasty and start hurling insults and name calling.  In all of this, I think we are going to see rudeness rise to new levels as things begin to relax.  Most interaction with other people has been done through social media during these shutdowns, and it appears to have brought out the worst in folks.  I am sick of it.
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Post by Constantine on Mon May 18, 2020 7:06 pm

^Ask these people who insult you to tell you what they think of Andrew Cuomo, who through written order on March 25, forced nursing homes to accept Covid-positive patients, leading to over 5,300 deaths in nursing homes. That's fully 1/3 of the state's Covid deaths.

He's the media and press darling right now, and yet he did this. Thankfully, there is growing pressure across party lines for an investigation on all this. The corrupt media continues to sweep it all under the rug to save his behind, but the families want answers and accountability.

And yet they call those who want a little common sense the monsters.

Proverbs 29:2, NIV: "When the righteous thrive, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule, the people groan."
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Post by Black Rider on Mon May 18, 2020 7:29 pm

I predict many lawsuits coming for Mr. Cuomo.
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Post by BaleMaster on Tue May 19, 2020 7:31 am

alldatndensum wrote:I am now unfriending and blocking people on social media that have a differing opinion than mine about this virus, but ONLY if they get nasty and start hurling insults and name calling.  In all of this, I think we are going to see rudeness rise to new levels as things begin to relax.  Most interaction with other people has been done through social media during these shutdowns, and it appears to have brought out the worst in folks.  I am sick of it.
I went the distance and deactivated my Failbook account.  I chimed in on a thread discussing Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot and Illinois' epically failed gubernatorial body double for Fred Flintstone, Pritzker.  "Sieg heil" I offered up.  "Bow the knee to these almighty dictators!" For my time and trouble, I was charged by the Failbook court with "hate speech."   Evil or Very Mad

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Post by BaleMaster on Tue May 19, 2020 7:35 am

Constantine wrote:^Ask these people who insult you to tell you what they think of Andrew Cuomo, who through written order on March 25, forced nursing homes to accept Covid-positive patients, leading to over 5,300 deaths in nursing homes.  That's fully 1/3 of the state's Covid deaths.

He's the media and press darling right now, and yet he did this.  Thankfully, there is growing pressure across party lines for an investigation on all this.  The corrupt media continues to sweep it all under the rug to save his behind, but the families want answers and accountability.

And yet they call those who want a little common sense the monsters.

Proverbs 29:2, NIV: "When the righteous thrive, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule, the people groan."
But don't forget: the Orange Bad Man is the dictator.  Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Black Rider on Tue May 19, 2020 9:26 am

FB is going all out on censorship, people need to jump ship and find a new platform. Something like MeWe which is much more open.
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Post by Constantine on Tue May 19, 2020 10:25 am

BaleMaster wrote:I went the distance and deactivated my Failbook account.  I chimed in on a thread discussing Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot and Illinois' epically failed gubernatorial body double for Fred Flintstone, Pritzker.  "Sieg heil" I offered up.  "Bow the knee to these almighty dictators!" For my time and trouble, I was charged by the Failbook court with "hate speech."   Evil or Very Mad
Never underestimate the nefarious nature of these globalist tech companies.

I do a lot of political posts on YouTube videos.  YouTube will frequently shadowban or even erase my comments altogether.  Because I might call CNN the "Chinese Narrative Network," or (worst of all) if I dare to say that transgenderism should not be pushed on prepubescent kids because it confuses them and they are not equipped to process such things.

Because - Oh no! - that's considered hate speech! 

Meanwhile, I and others have received the most vile, disgusting insults from outraged people.  
I have received death threats, and threats to hunt me down. Or they'll call for sexual violence against the Trump family. 
Really twisted, grotesque stuff.

But if I report these sick attacks to You Tube, YT does NOTHING.  Because presumably, nothing is 'hate speech" to YT if it's against a more conservative, sane voice.

Google (which owns YT) and Facebook have already been exposed for trying to influence the 2016 election.  
And it's clear to almost everyone by now how agenda-driven and hateful the media is against this administration and it's voters. This is all only getting worse as we head into November.
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Post by Constantine on Tue May 19, 2020 10:30 am

Black Rider wrote:FB is going all out on censorship, people need to jump ship and find a new platform. Something like MeWe which is much more open.
Have you used MeWe?   Are there many people on it yet?   

It looks interesting, although I don't know how they are going to make money if they do not push ads and don't sell your personal info.
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Post by BaleMaster on Tue May 19, 2020 10:30 am

These nefarious companies need to be split up--Alphabet (which owns Google and YouTube), Fakebook, Twitter, and the like.  I'd like to see AG Barr use antitrust legislation against them.

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Post by Constantine on Tue May 19, 2020 10:34 am

BaleMaster wrote:These nefarious companies need to be split up--Alphabet (which owns Google and YouTube), Fakebook, Twitter, and the like.  I'd like to see AG Barr use antitrust legislation against them.
Agreed.   I'd like to see AG Barr do a lot of things, but I am not going to hold my breath.  
He has already stated that they would not be pursuing a case against a certain former President and VP for the illegal and unethical hit-job on Flynn.

So let's just say that i have been disappointed so far.
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Post by Kerrick on Tue May 19, 2020 1:24 pm

Constantine wrote:
Black Rider wrote:FB is going all out on censorship, people need to jump ship and find a new platform. Something like MeWe which is much more open.
Have you used MeWe?   Are there many people on it yet?   

It looks interesting, although I don't know how they are going to make money if they do not push ads and don't sell your personal info.

I just made a profile a few days ago.  I haven't used it much but if it takes off, I may transition away from FB to it.

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Post by BaleMaster on Tue May 19, 2020 2:18 pm

I briefly flirted with MeWe, but this was during its infancy, and not much was going on there.  I may have to revisit.

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Post by Black Rider on Tue May 19, 2020 7:17 pm

Yeah, so far there's not much going on with MeWe but everyone keeps saying we need an alternative so I'm ready if it happens.
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Post by alldatndensum on Wed May 20, 2020 8:42 am

BaleMaster wrote:I briefly flirted with MeWe, but this was during its infancy, and not much was going on there.  I may have to revisit.

Black Rider wrote:Yeah, so far there's not much going on with MeWe but everyone keeps saying we need an alternative so I'm ready if it happens.


The ONLY way for MeWe to take off is to make it work.  You have to post to it just as much as you would Facebook.  You have to keep inviting friends over especially the ones you know are fed up with FB.  If you don't do the work, then you will be stuck with the ultra-liberal Facebook telling you what you can and cannot see.  They have become another piece in the propaganda machine of the Dem. Nat'l. Convention.  If you are fine with their censorship of conservative views, then don't do anything.  If you are sick to death of it, then start posting everything at both sites at first.  Invite your friends, and start posting some things there that you would not on Facebook.  If they join you, then we slowly start weening people off the teat of Facebook, Instagram (owned by Facebook) and Twitter (just as liberal).



On a positive note, most of Tennessee will be lifting the 50% restrictions on retail and restaurants on Friday, May 22.  Things like bowling alleys and movie theaters can reopen but with restrictions.  I am ready to go see a movie in the theater.
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Post by ThomasEversole on Wed May 20, 2020 5:04 pm

In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.
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Post by Constantine on Wed May 20, 2020 5:14 pm

I am listening to Rudy Guliani's radio show and he just interviewed a lawyer who has filed 13 law suits so far on behalf of business owners and churches, against the draconian laws of the Governors in some of these states and cities (mostly in California).

I hope more of these suits get filed, and that they win.
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Post by alldatndensum on Fri May 22, 2020 12:14 pm

ThomasEversole wrote:In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.



Those business owners need to file a lawsuit to challenge this.  A quarantine is typically 14 days.  We've been down for months.  Your governor has no rights to keep everything shut down for an additional 4 months.  Ya'll need to be putting together public protests as well.  Don't accept these draconian, Orwellian measures any longer, people! It is time for another Tea Party (not the political party).
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Post by Bought4Life on Fri May 22, 2020 12:50 pm

ThomasEversole wrote:In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.


It looks like that was all repealed on May 20

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/pritzker-withdraws-emergency-rule-to-enforce-stay-at-home-order/2275422/

https://www.wifr.com/content/news/Pritzker-to-withdraw-emergency-order-criminalizing-businesses-who-defy-stay-at-home-order-570631111.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-emergency-rule-illinois/partly-false-claim-emergency-rule-in-illinois-threatens-individuals-with-arrest-misdemeanor-for-ignoring-stay-at-home-orders-or-criticizing-governor-on-social-media-idUSKBN22X2G5
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Post by L8T on Fri May 22, 2020 10:03 pm

So my neighbor was doing a prison sentence for his 9th DUI/OVI (that I know of, he's had 4, that I know of since being my neighbor, one right out in front of our houses).  He was doing a 2 year sentence, getting out this coming December with good behavior.  I come home last night and he's out mowing the lawn thanks to the CCP virus.  Today my mom tells me that church-camp in the state I grew up in is cancelled for this summer.

My attitude is Really bad about this whole thing right now.  I know it's my responsibility to address my attitude.
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Post by WildWorld on Fri May 22, 2020 10:07 pm

Our local church is opening this weekend, with four different masses (likely to avoid having too many people in the Church at once).

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Post by Guenther321 on Fri May 22, 2020 10:13 pm

Alldata - quarantine has no specific time limit. It's based off of the incubation period (Ebola is 21 days) and in other time periods as much as 40 days. It could also be based on how long it takes people to completely heal from the illness, in the case of covid-19, that would be just over a month. Given that we dont have the ability to test as thoroughly as we should we dont know who is contagious or asymptomatic or not we are taking more extreme measures that are warranted.

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Post by Bought4Life on Sat May 23, 2020 1:28 am

L8T wrote:So my neighbor was doing a prison sentence for his 9th DUI/OVI (that I know of, he's had 4, that I know of since being my neighbor, one right out in front of our houses).  He was doing a 2 year sentence, getting out this coming December with good behavior.  I come home last night and he's out mowing the lawn thanks to the CCP virus.  Today my mom tells me that church-camp in the state I grew up in is cancelled for this summer.

My attitude is Really bad about this whole thing right now.  I know it's my responsibility to address my attitude.


There have been states where they have released prisoners and locked up pastors for violating the orders.

Amazing isn't it?

Setting the guilty free and locking up the innocent
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Post by BaleMaster on Sat May 23, 2020 3:05 am

ThomasEversole wrote:In my state, the governor passed an "emergency rule" effective May 15th, to be able to fine $2500 and jail for one year, any business owner that tries to open their business within the next 150 days. Surely there's a line between "we're all in this together" and government taking away the basic freedom for people to support themselves.
Governor Flintstone? Cavorting about with his wife in other states while the citizenry remain confined? Yabba dabba DON'T.

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Post by BaleMaster on Sat May 23, 2020 3:07 am

Guenther321 wrote:Alldata - quarantine has no specific time limit.  It's based off of the incubation period (Ebola is 21 days) and in other time periods as much as 40 days.  It could also be based on how long it takes people to completely heal from the illness, in the case of covid-19, that would be just over a month.  Given that we dont have the ability to test as thoroughly as we should we dont know who is contagious or asymptomatic or not we are taking more extreme measures that are warranted.
Oh please.  Going by that logic, these draconian tyrants can keep us incarcerated forever.   Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Guenther321 on Sat May 23, 2020 3:36 am

No one said forever....

I'm just saying that had we not shut down, things might be just as bad as the original numbers that were predicted. I just dont understand why so many people are ready to throw caution to the wind completely...

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Post by alldatndensum on Sat May 23, 2020 9:22 am

Guenther321 wrote:No one said forever....

I'm just saying that had we not shut down, things might be just as bad as the original numbers that were predicted.  I just dont understand why so many people are ready to throw caution to the wind completely...


Because the models have consistantly been overbloated, the death rates have had to be adjusted downward, we have unemployment higher than the Great Depression, businesses that will never be able to recover, and many cities now having spikes in suicides and having more deaths from that than COVID.  The "cure" has been worse than the disease!

While memes are oversimplified ways of making a point, one I have seen is true.  Many people do believe that quarantining the sick is great, but quarantining the healthy is nothing more than tyranny.  When you see the governors and mayors using strong arm tactics and telling their people how many more months they would like to see this continue while promising huge tax increases, people are at their breaking points and ready to rebel.  If we go into a second shutdown when this rears its head in the fall like the flu does every year, I would not be bit surprised to see it get bloody as people begin to truly try to overthrow the socialist regime that is trying to set itself up through this whole shutdown process.
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Post by ThomasEversole on Sat May 23, 2020 9:30 am

alldatndensum wrote:
Those business owners need to file a lawsuit to challenge this.  A quarantine is typically 14 days.

A quarantine is typically for sick people too. This 'rona was the first time healthy people were quarantined.


Thank you for those links! I noticed things looking a little different around here the past few days.

A local restaurant opened up with takeout orders. Man, it was some good Cajun Fried Catfish!
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Post by Guenther321 on Sat May 23, 2020 7:59 pm

This shutdown has really not seen a quarantine of healthy people. Restricting your travels and reducing unnecessary contact with other people is not quarantine. It is something that we can find on record as far back as smallpox outbreaks during the colonial period.

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Post by Guenther321 on Sat May 23, 2020 8:21 pm

A bloody uprising? Seriously? Would t it just be easier to run campaigns and vote them out? Our colonial ancestors staged a revolution because they had no voice in government - they couldn't vote or have any impact on taxes, trade, or any other aspect of governance, so they tried everything they could to get that voice until they only had one option left. Today we have a voice - we can vote, we can run campaigns, anyone can run for office in any state. If we want we can even meet our elected officials to discuss things personally. By the time I was 18 I had met NYS Senator Tom Libous 3 times and he even spoke at my high school graduation. We have options that our ancestors did not have, so even mentioning a bloody revolution at this stage is the most absurd thing I can imagine.


For the record, I havent found the actual order, but from what I can tell Cuomo's order requiring nursing homes to take recovering covid-19 patients o ly required it if the nursing home had the staff and the proper facilities to do so, and it was left up to the nursing homes themselves to make that determination. Again, I havent found the actual order, but that's just what it looks like to me....

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Post by Constantine on Sat May 23, 2020 9:17 pm

Guenther321 wrote:For the record, I havent found the actual order, but from what I can tell Cuomo's order requiring nursing homes to take recovering covid-19 patients o ly required it if the nursing home had the staff and the proper facilities to do so, and it was left up to the nursing homes themselves to make that determination.  Again, I havent found the actual order, but that's just what it looks like to me....
Untrue.   Not only were the nursing homes and long-term care facilities given no choice, but they were given no warning and no time to prepare.

A few nursing home and long term care facilities even contacted the NYS Health Department and pleaded with them to be allowed to send Covid positive patients to the Javits Center, or the Navy ship Comfort, which (along with Samaritan's Purse) had many empty beds.

Here is part of the directive issued on March 25, 2020:

"No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission."

I am not sure what is motivating you to run cover for Andrew Cuomo.  Isn't that the job of the mainstream media?  
They might not like the fact that you are stepping into their shoes.  Just sayin'.
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Post by Guenther321 on Sat May 23, 2020 11:21 pm

I'm not running cover for anybody. I admitted that I hadn't found the actual order in my post.

Again, I just really hate seeing people point fingers at the wrongs of one side, when their own side just as screwed up. I do believe that the Democrats are idiots. I also believe that the Republicans are idiots.
Anymore I dont see much hope, or anything positive in either party.

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Post by alldatndensum on Sun May 24, 2020 8:38 am

Constantine wrote:
Guenther321 wrote:For the record, I havent found the actual order, but from what I can tell Cuomo's order requiring nursing homes to take recovering covid-19 patients o ly required it if the nursing home had the staff and the proper facilities to do so, and it was left up to the nursing homes themselves to make that determination.  Again, I havent found the actual order, but that's just what it looks like to me....
Untrue.   Not only were the nursing homes and long-term care facilities given no choice, but they were given no warning and no time to prepare.

A few nursing home and long term care facilities even contacted the NYS Health Department and pleaded with them to be allowed to send Covid positive patients to the Javits Center, or the Navy ship Comfort, which (along with Samaritan's Purse) had many empty beds.

Here is part of the directive issued on March 25, 2020:

"No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission."

I am not sure what is motivating you to run cover for Andrew Cuomo.  Isn't that the job of the mainstream media?  
They might not like the fact that you are stepping into their shoes.  Just sayin'.


Tennessee has begun doing this as we have begun opening back up.  Our so called conservative governor is showing himself to be a true RINO.

Restaurants are supposed to be opening back up to full capacity here.  However, they are to keep tables 6 feet apart.  Most of them had to do this to get the establishment to the previous 50%.  So, the governor's new order allowing them to open fully but with such hard restrictions means they are still at 50%!  All he has done is paint over the white stripes on a skunk and call it a cat, but it still stinks!
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Post by ThomasEversole on Sun May 24, 2020 10:44 am

Guenther321 wrote:This shutdown has really not seen a quarantine of healthy people.  Restricting your travels and reducing unnecessary contact with other people is not quarantine.  It is something that we can find on record as far back as smallpox outbreaks during the colonial period.

Semantics.  Dictionary.com, Webster, and various other sites, medical and not, indicate that "quarantine" is an imposed or enforced isolation.  Sick, to prevent sickness, or not even sickness at all.  Sure, voluntary quarantine is a thing, but that's not quite what's going on here.  Likewise, its not like the government has armed posts outside of our homes to make sure we stay inside.

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Again, I just really hate seeing people point fingers at the wrongs of one side, when their own side just as screwed up.  I do believe that the Democrats are idiots.  I also believe that the Republicans are idiots.  
Anymore I dont see much hope, or anything positive in either party.

I don't believe either side are idiots.  I believe each side makes mistakes, but some choices made (like throwing business owners in jail for trying to run their business, which is now overruled) have a deliberate intent behind them.

Besides, the idiot rule is just like the jerk rule.  If I run into a jerk in the morning, well, I just ran into a jerk.  If I'm surrounded by jerks, then maybe I'm the jerk.
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Post by Bought4Life on Sun May 24, 2020 9:47 pm



You are certainly welcome!


ThomasEversole wrote:


 Likewise, its not like the government has armed posts outside of our homes to make sure we stay inside.





Some states are not that far from it it. Last weekend, people went out and about in Fells Point (Baltimore) to enjoy the gorgeous weather, doing nothing but walking and talking, and they brought in a helicopter and police with dogs to disperse the crowds.

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/05/16/baltimore-fells-point-crowds-dispersed-by-police-coronavirus-stay-at-home-order/
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Post by BaleMaster on Mon May 25, 2020 4:25 am

Yesterday Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot raided a church for defying her unlawful orders.

Still think this "quarantine" is justified, Guenther?

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Post by alldatndensum on Mon May 25, 2020 9:19 am

This quarantine is just the test for the big takeover in my opinion. They want to see how many will squirm, share info and ideas, and revolt even in small ways.  When you hear people like Maxine Waters directly saying she does not want businesses to reopen and see Pelosi and others pushing for a full mail-in ballot that would be so easy to rig, you begin to see the full extent of one party's attempt at convincing people with the lamestream media's help to welcome and embrace their socialist utopian dream they want to set up.  People are starting to wake up and see this.  This whole situation reads like it should either have been an extra chapter from "The Screwtape Letters" or "1984".
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