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seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

Pethead wrote:This is hardly the only thread where you’ve decided to vent your spleen against Christianity. If it were my mocking comment would be out of line. However, I guarantee you that many have noticed you taking as many chances as you can lately to take shots at Christians and Christianity. But then when you get pushback you play the victim, even though you’re coming onto a Christian board and then taking shots at Christians.

The thing is I’m happy to talk about the faith with unbelievers, as I imagine the rest of us here are. But that’s not the same as just laughing along when our faith is attacked. 

You want us to admit that professing—and even actual Christians have done awful things? Sure, I’ll admit that no hesitation. I have a mirror whenever I need to see a sinner. Do unbelievers do humanly laudable acts? Absolutely, and I’ve known plenty. 

But you also can’t dismiss history when it comes to the existence of Christ and then claim history is on your side whenever you want to stick it to Christians. That’s not intellectually honest.

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

Pethead wrote:The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

If you feel I am mocking then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way. I am simply supplying evidence of an old agenda that harkens back to political conquest, an agenda that was forced and ingrained into society, a systemic, caste system. I have explained this in an earlier post quite thoroughly but it got ignored as I suspected it would.

Now Seth made a light hearted meme that I found hilarious too, it's my kind of humor. But it implies Dusty is a little cray cray and a making stories up about a white Jesus, like the guy that hears the voice of Christ telling him to kill people to kill the demons inside them.

Then I simply used that meme and made the interrogator a Christian who ignores the abundant evidence in the room around them of a white Jesus and white mary and white disciples and white Moses etc... while gaslighting cray cray dusty until he agrees that he made it all up (hello Catholics). The Christian interrogator is pleased to hear this and hopes the topic never comes up again.

Google Jesus in the image search and tell me what you see... If you're a westerner, we all grew up with that guy.
 

Black Rider wrote:So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity

I don't keep bringing it up I was happy to let it go frankly. It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts a while back as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

It is what it is. The only reason anyone would call this mocking is because "it hits you where you live."

moving on.

You made a couple good points. I understand the meme better know. I think the only thing you're missing is that we aren't actually denying that White Jesus is what we usually see. We're just denying the accuracy. The average human being, even the average Christian, I find embarrassingly dumb.

Now the only problem I have with your meme is that Kurt wasn't even hiding 

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

Do you see a contradiction here Seth

There are many mutli-cultured Jesus' then suddenly

White Jesus checks the tick.


Black Jesus=wrong.

I could careless about any Jesus. But I am simply making a very clear point that even a blind man should see. Add it all up the evidence shines like the sun on cloudless blue sky day.

Dustofyears wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

Pethead wrote:The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

If you feel I am mocking then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way. I am simply supplying evidence of an old agenda that harkens back to political conquest, an agenda that was forced and ingrained into society, a systemic, caste system. I have explained this in an earlier post quite thoroughly but it got ignored as I suspected it would.

Now Seth made a light hearted meme that I found hilarious too, it's my kind of humor. But it implies Dusty is a little cray cray and a making stories up about a white Jesus, like the guy that hears the voice of Christ telling him to kill people to kill the demons inside them.

Then I simply used that meme and made the interrogator a Christian who ignores the abundant evidence in the room around them of a white Jesus and white mary and white disciples and white Moses etc... while gaslighting cray cray dusty until he agrees that he made it all up (hello Catholics). The Christian interrogator is pleased to hear this and hopes the topic never comes up again.

Google Jesus in the image search and tell me what you see... If you're a westerner, we all grew up with that guy.
 

Black Rider wrote:So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity

I don't keep bringing it up I was happy to let it go frankly. It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts a while back as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

It is what it is. The only reason anyone would call this mocking is because "it hits you where you live."

moving on.

You made a couple good points. I understand the meme better know. I think the only thing you're missing is that we aren't actually denying that White Jesus is what we usually see. We're just denying the accuracy. The average human being, even the average Christian, I find embarrassingly dumb.

Now the only problem I have with your meme is that Kurt wasn't even hiding 

  Kurt was never really hiding. He was grinning in the open all along.

 Thanks. I should have explained the meme. I thought it self evident but you never can tell how the tone of something comes across. I know no one is denying the white Christ Steven, but no one is stepping forward about the white Christ being used as political conquest and as a caste systemic system where Europeans were the top class. This is fact. Not racist or leftist thinking. But they will call it leftists  it is unsettling to think about, especially when the vast majority of one's life has been based corruption and  lies and contradictions. Right hand covers the left.

I'm glad you now understand the meme.

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

Do you see a contradiction here Seth

There are many mutli-cultured Jesus' then suddenly

White Jesus checks the tick.


Black Jesus=wrong.

I could careless about any Jesus. But I am simply making a very clear point that even a blind man should see. Add it all up the evidence shines like the sun on cloudless blue sky day.

Nope, nope, nope! You're either being purposely disingenuous or you're actually dim: I'll let you decide.

We all recognize that each culture might depict Jesus in painting and art as their ethnicity.  Big deal.

The Black Hebrew Israelites are a cult who actively claim Jesus was a black African. They claim a bunch of other absurdly false claims as well. 

Seth was clearly making this point. Did you miss it on purpose or accidentally?

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

Pethead wrote:The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

If you feel I am mocking then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way. I am simply supplying evidence of an old agenda that harkens back to political conquest, an agenda that was forced and ingrained into society, a systemic, caste system. I have explained this in an earlier post quite thoroughly but it got ignored as I suspected it would.

Now Seth made a light hearted meme that I found hilarious too, it's my kind of humor. But it implies Dusty is a little cray cray and a making stories up about a white Jesus, like the guy that hears the voice of Christ telling him to kill people to kill the demons inside them.

Then I simply used that meme and made the interrogator a Christian who ignores the abundant evidence in the room around them of a white Jesus and white mary and white disciples and white Moses etc... while gaslighting cray cray dusty until he agrees that he made it all up (hello Catholics). The Christian interrogator is pleased to hear this and hopes the topic never comes up again.

Google Jesus in the image search and tell me what you see... If you're a westerner, we all grew up with that guy.
 

Black Rider wrote:So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity

I don't keep bringing it up I was happy to let it go frankly. It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts a while back as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

It is what it is. The only reason anyone would call this mocking is because "it hits you where you live."

moving on.

You made a couple good points. I understand the meme better know. I think the only thing you're missing is that we aren't actually denying that White Jesus is what we usually see. We're just denying the accuracy. The average human being, even the average Christian, I find embarrassingly dumb.

Now the only problem I have with your meme is that Kurt wasn't even hiding 

  Kurt was never really hiding. He was grinning in the open all along.

 Thanks. I should have explained the meme. I thought it self evident but you never can tell how the tone of something comes across. I know no one is denying the white Christ Steven, but no one is stepping forward about the white Christ being used as political conquest and as a caste systemic system where Europeans were the top class. This is fact. Not racist or leftist thinking. But they will call it leftists  it is unsettling to think about, especially when the vast majority of one's life has been based corruption and  lies and contradictions. Right hand covers the left.

I'm glad you now understand the meme.

Oooooh... I finally get the point you were making about white Jesus!
Yes, White Jesus has been used as a conquest symbol. However, not by Christians. By people who falsely call themselves Christians. There's a difference.

Dustofyears wrote:

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

Do you see a contradiction here Seth

There are many mutli-cultured Jesus' then suddenly

White Jesus checks the tick.


Black Jesus=wrong.

I could careless about any Jesus. But I am simply making a very clear point that even a blind man should see. Add it all up the evidence shines like the sun on cloudless blue sky day.

Nope, nope, nope! You're either being purposely disingenuous or you're actually dim: I'll let you decide.

We all recognize that each culture might depict Jesus in painting and art as their ethnicity.  Big deal.

The Black Hebrew Israelites are a cult who actively claim Jesus was a black African. They claim a bunch of other absurdly false claims as well. 

Seth was clearly making this point. Did you miss it on purpose or accidentally?

How is this any different from the "Active"political conquest of white Jesus... that being enforced in all systems of society to remind all  that Europeans are  the top tier class system....

There is none. The truth is a Black Jesus would actually repulse you. The other thing is, Jesus was more than likely not black or white, but an arab, just Mary, just like the disciples etc. Much as you'd like to sweep this inconvenience under the rug, there's no denying or hiding from facts Scott.

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

Pethead wrote:The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

If you feel I am mocking then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way. I am simply supplying evidence of an old agenda that harkens back to political conquest, an agenda that was forced and ingrained into society, a systemic, caste system. I have explained this in an earlier post quite thoroughly but it got ignored as I suspected it would.

Now Seth made a light hearted meme that I found hilarious too, it's my kind of humor. But it implies Dusty is a little cray cray and a making stories up about a white Jesus, like the guy that hears the voice of Christ telling him to kill people to kill the demons inside them.

Then I simply used that meme and made the interrogator a Christian who ignores the abundant evidence in the room around them of a white Jesus and white mary and white disciples and white Moses etc... while gaslighting cray cray dusty until he agrees that he made it all up (hello Catholics). The Christian interrogator is pleased to hear this and hopes the topic never comes up again.

Google Jesus in the image search and tell me what you see... If you're a westerner, we all grew up with that guy.
 

Black Rider wrote:So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity

I don't keep bringing it up I was happy to let it go frankly. It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts a while back as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

It is what it is. The only reason anyone would call this mocking is because "it hits you where you live."

moving on.

You made a couple good points. I understand the meme better know. I think the only thing you're missing is that we aren't actually denying that White Jesus is what we usually see. We're just denying the accuracy. The average human being, even the average Christian, I find embarrassingly dumb.

Now the only problem I have with your meme is that Kurt wasn't even hiding 

  Kurt was never really hiding. He was grinning in the open all along.

 Thanks. I should have explained the meme. I thought it self evident but you never can tell how the tone of something comes across. I know no one is denying the white Christ Steven, but no one is stepping forward about the white Christ being used as political conquest and as a caste systemic system where Europeans were the top class. This is fact. Not racist or leftist thinking. But they will call it leftists  it is unsettling to think about, especially when the vast majority of one's life has been based corruption and  lies and contradictions. Right hand covers the left.

I'm glad you now understand the meme.

Oooooh... I finally get the point you were making about white Jesus!
Yes, White Jesus has been used as a conquest symbol. However, not by Christians. By people who falsely call themselves Christians. There's a difference.

Steven that's always the go to answer. It wasn't real Catholics, it wasn't real Protestants, it wasn't real Christians, it wasn't real Muslims... This is the scapegoat every time. Yes it was real Christians of the times. Now I'm not saying you or anyone here has the same mindset or heart as those from another time period, but it all comes from religion, and in this case, Christianity.

In short, I am simply pointing out the rock Westernized Christianity is built upon.

MagnusPrime wrote:I want to say thank you to Dust.

You've done nothing but strengthen my faith. 

White Jesus must have sent you here to contribute to His glory.

Well done.

StevenCressler wrote:

MagnusPrime wrote:I want to say thank you to Dust.

You've done nothing but strengthen my faith. 

White Jesus must have sent you here to contribute to His glory.

Well done.

I've thought this before too. We can never say our faith wasn't put to the test with Dust being on the board.
(And btw Dust this isn't an insult)

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

Do you see a contradiction here Seth

There are many mutli-cultured Jesus' then suddenly

White Jesus checks the tick.


Black Jesus=wrong.

I could careless about any Jesus. But I am simply making a very clear point that even a blind man should see. Add it all up the evidence shines like the sun on cloudless blue sky day.

Nope, nope, nope! You're either being purposely disingenuous or you're actually dim: I'll let you decide.

We all recognize that each culture might depict Jesus in painting and art as their ethnicity.  Big deal.

The Black Hebrew Israelites are a cult who actively claim Jesus was a black African. They claim a bunch of other absurdly false claims as well. 

Seth was clearly making this point. Did you miss it on purpose or accidentally?

How is this any different from the "Active"political conquest of white Jesus... that being enforced in all systems of society to remind all  that Europeans are  the top tier class system....

There is none. The truth is a Black Jesus would actually repulse you. The other thing is, Jesus was more than likely not black or white, but an arab, just Mary, just like the disciples etc. Much as you'd like to sweep this inconvenience under the rug, there's no denying or hiding from facts Scott.

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

Pethead wrote:The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

If you feel I am mocking then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way. I am simply supplying evidence of an old agenda that harkens back to political conquest, an agenda that was forced and ingrained into society, a systemic, caste system. I have explained this in an earlier post quite thoroughly but it got ignored as I suspected it would.

Now Seth made a light hearted meme that I found hilarious too, it's my kind of humor. But it implies Dusty is a little cray cray and a making stories up about a white Jesus, like the guy that hears the voice of Christ telling him to kill people to kill the demons inside them.

Then I simply used that meme and made the interrogator a Christian who ignores the abundant evidence in the room around them of a white Jesus and white mary and white disciples and white Moses etc... while gaslighting cray cray dusty until he agrees that he made it all up (hello Catholics). The Christian interrogator is pleased to hear this and hopes the topic never comes up again.

Google Jesus in the image search and tell me what you see... If you're a westerner, we all grew up with that guy.
 

Black Rider wrote:So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity

I don't keep bringing it up I was happy to let it go frankly. It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts a while back as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

It is what it is. The only reason anyone would call this mocking is because "it hits you where you live."

moving on.

You made a couple good points. I understand the meme better know. I think the only thing you're missing is that we aren't actually denying that White Jesus is what we usually see. We're just denying the accuracy. The average human being, even the average Christian, I find embarrassingly dumb.

Now the only problem I have with your meme is that Kurt wasn't even hiding 

  Kurt was never really hiding. He was grinning in the open all along.

 Thanks. I should have explained the meme. I thought it self evident but you never can tell how the tone of something comes across. I know no one is denying the white Christ Steven, but no one is stepping forward about the white Christ being used as political conquest and as a caste systemic system where Europeans were the top class. This is fact. Not racist or leftist thinking. But they will call it leftists  it is unsettling to think about, especially when the vast majority of one's life has been based corruption and  lies and contradictions. Right hand covers the left.

I'm glad you now understand the meme.

Oooooh... I finally get the point you were making about white Jesus!
Yes, White Jesus has been used as a conquest symbol. However, not by Christians. By people who falsely call themselves Christians. There's a difference.

Steven that's always the go to answer. It wasn't real Catholics, it wasn't real Protestants, it wasn't real Christians, it wasn't real Muslims... This is the scapegoat every time. Yes it was real Christians of the times. Now I'm not saying you or anyone here has the same mindset or heart as those from another time period, but it all comes from religion, and in this case, Christianity.

In short, I am simply pointing out the rock Westernized Christianity is built upon.

I guess. I just know that I don't claim any of those actions, and if they were real Christians they were mishearing God's instruction. Though ofc in your worldview that doesn't make a difference as you consider all divine instruction from man, so I can tell why you wouldn't differentiate. But you can see where I'm coming from, right?

Dustofyears wrote:

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

Do you see a contradiction here Seth

There are many mutli-cultured Jesus' then suddenly

White Jesus checks the tick.


Black Jesus=wrong.

I could careless about any Jesus. But I am simply making a very clear point that even a blind man should see. Add it all up the evidence shines like the sun on cloudless blue sky day.

Nope, nope, nope! You're either being purposely disingenuous or you're actually dim: I'll let you decide.

We all recognize that each culture might depict Jesus in painting and art as their ethnicity.  Big deal.

The Black Hebrew Israelites are a cult who actively claim Jesus was a black African. They claim a bunch of other absurdly false claims as well. 

Seth was clearly making this point. Did you miss it on purpose or accidentally?

How is this any different from the "Active"political conquest of white Jesus... that being enforced in all systems of society to remind all  that Europeans are  the top tier class system....

There is none. The truth is a Black Jesus would actually repulse you. The other thing is, Jesus was more than likely not black or white, but an arab, just Mary, just like the disciples etc. Much as you'd like to sweep this inconvenience under the rug, there's no denying or hiding from facts Scott.
 

Dustofyears wrote:Not so much that I don't think before I speak. More that I type fast with spastic fingers and so there are tons of spelling mistakes and typos and things could be explained in a more eloquent manner if I slowed down.

However I have made myself very clear here. the real problem is not misunderstanding, on the contrary— the problem is people understand all too well, kind of like the interrogator in the interrogation room in the meme (that's them "Good. let's not talk about this again)...therefore the topic at hand is being avoided and when offense has nowhere to go with itself then the name calling ensues, or the  "you're just picking on us Christians again" card comes out.

There's no misunderstanding. They understand perfectly Steven. I haven't even scratched the surface yet and will only do so if questions or digs keep arising, otherwise I'm quite happy to let it go an "Never talk about this again"

StevenCressler wrote:You mean you wish that's what you look like?

Dust making a good point but taking 5 pages for me to realize it's a good point

Seth giving really sound well-written responses that don't end up having the desired effect

Black Rider and Scottmitchell74 getting upset

Me agreeing with so many of Dust's points that I start getting concerned

Pethead liking comments but mainly staying out

Dust getting name-called and unfair accusations at least once

What did I miss?

Dustofyears wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:You mean you wish that's what you look like?

Yeah why not— he 's good looking, talented and rich lolz. (and Unfortunately dead)




It wouldn't be a Dust vs CMR debate without:

Dust making a good point but taking 5 pages for me to realize it's a good point

Seth giving really sound well-written responses that don't end up having the desired effect

Black Rider and Scottmitchell74 getting upset

Me agreeing with so many of Dust's points that I start getting concerned

Pethead liking comments but mainly staying out

Dust getting name-called and unfair accusations at least once

What did I miss?

Lolz you crack me up Steven. Have a good day/night.

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

Do you see a contradiction here Seth

There are many mutli-cultured Jesus' then suddenly

White Jesus checks the tick.


Black Jesus=wrong.

I could careless about any Jesus. But I am simply making a very clear point that even a blind man should see. Add it all up the evidence shines like the sun on cloudless blue sky day.