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StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Seth Seth Seth.... Jesus has always been white since the day you were born. Stop with the crap.

Please tell me you at least believe in the historical figure of Jesus... who was Jewish

used to. There may have been a Jesus who was some rabbi teacher or call it what you will, but I don't believe there was a Jewish Jesus that was sent by his father God to get nailed to a cross and suffer for the world's sins then rose again three days later. It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

Dustofyears wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Seth Seth Seth.... Jesus has always been white since the day you were born. Stop with the crap.

Please tell me you at least believe in the historical figure of Jesus... who was Jewish

used to. There may have been a Jesus who was some rabbi teacher or call it what you will, but I don't believe there was a Jewish Jesus that was sent by his father God to get nailed to a cross and suffer for the world's sins then rose again three days later. It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

That's not what I meant. Most atheist historians agree that there was a Jewish rabbi around 20 A.D. or something named Jesus. Most people believe that. So in your worldview, that would be the only Jesus to exist... and he'd be a Jew

Hitlers childhood wasn't bad. Middle class parents and given an inheritance which he squandered when he went to art school. Wasn't a good student either. He had some tough luck with his folks dying early but nothing really unusual for the time.

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Seth Seth Seth.... Jesus has always been white since the day you were born. Stop with the crap.

Please tell me you at least believe in the historical figure of Jesus... who was Jewish

used to. There may have been a Jesus who was some rabbi teacher or call it what you will, but I don't believe there was a Jewish Jesus that was sent by his father God to get nailed to a cross and suffer for the world's sins then rose again three days later. It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

That's not what I meant. Most atheist historians agree that there was a Jewish rabbi around 20 A.D. or something named Jesus. Most people believe that. So in your worldview, that would be the only Jesus to exist... and he'd be a Jew

Yeah it's quite possible. Yep.

Black Rider wrote:Hitlers childhood wasn't bad. Middle class parents and given an inheritance which he squandered when he went to art school. Wasn't a good student either. He had some tough luck with his folks dying early but nothing really unusual for the time.

lolz aha...that's what I mean by lack of information about Hitler's childhood. I'll try find this book. All there is on the net is generic bollocks.

That's not from the web, that's from study. I used to think I wanted to be a historian until I realized how much the left was taking over academia even back then.

Black Rider wrote:That's not from the web, that's from study. I used to think I wanted to be a historian until I realized how much the left was taking over academia even back then.

Hmm..ok. YesI hate the left and I hate right. Lolz. It makes for a tough life. Cheers i really gotta run and have a good day.

If you're referring to the book by Kubizek and Hitler was 15 when they became friends. Doesn't really get into before that much.

Dustofyears wrote:

Black Rider wrote:That's not from the web, that's from study. I used to think I wanted to be a historian until I realized how much the left was taking over academia even back then.

Hmm..ok. YesI hate the left and I hate right. Lolz. It makes for a tough life. Cheers i really gotta run and have a good day.

So you hate everyone and know everything. Interesting.

Black Rider wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Black Rider wrote:That's not from the web, that's from study. I used to think I wanted to be a historian until I realized how much the left was taking over academia even back then.

Hmm..ok. YesI hate the left and I hate right. Lolz. It makes for a tough life. Cheers i really gotta run and have a good day.

So you hate everyone and know everything. Interesting.

I hate the left and right. I like the middle leaning closer to the right.

Sorry I couldn’t resist

okay, that's funny.

StevenCressler wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Black Rider wrote:That's not from the web, that's from study. I used to think I wanted to be a historian until I realized how much the left was taking over academia even back then.

Hmm..ok. YesI hate the left and I hate right. Lolz. It makes for a tough life. Cheers i really gotta run and have a good day.

So you hate everyone and know everything. Interesting.

I hate the left and right. I like the middle leaning closer to the right.

We a re similar. I'm smack in the middle if I have to put myself somewhere. And black rider you are correct I'm not a huge fan of people.

seth wrote:
Sorry I couldn’t resist

Lolz yep yep lolz nice one Seth. I got one for you too I kinda of adjusted a few things. Hope you like it.

I like to call this piece "Spot the Kurt among the white Jesus's"

Bonus points if you can spot the white disciples

So Dusty Years hates religion and politics, so what's he for, anarchy? I believe that was already tried in the U.K...

Dustofyears wrote:I like to call this piece "Spot the Kurt among the white Jesus's"

Bonus points if you can spot the white disciples

For someone who claims to "hate the left" you certainly try to cram a lot of stuff into one meme...

Andreas89 wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:I like to call this piece "Spot the Kurt among the white Jesus's"

Bonus points if you can spot the white disciples

For someone who claims to "hate the left" you certainly try to cram a lot of stuff into one meme...

Don't know what this has to do with the "left" but anyway...I wanted to fit more white Jesus in there (after all that's all there is when I searched google images) and a couple more Kurt Cobain's to make it harder to Spot the Kurt. In hindsight, it's a little too obvious where Kurt is hiding now I think about it...also I am a little disappointed it got no likes I'd thought everyone would love it...in the words of Kurt...oh well whatever nevermind!

Anyway, I'm quite pleased with this piece but it could be better. It's an interesting uncomfortable piece for some (insert most people here) but the best art is meant to comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable... so on a scale of one to ten, how uncomfortable and disturbed do you feel...  Anyway hope you like it

PS I can't take all the credit for it though, Seth gave me the idea. Cheers Seth.

@Dustofyears - It's not uncomfortable in the slightest because it's not the "gotcha" you think it is.

It does, however, highlight the fact that you're a lost, whiney guy who complains about everything while doing nothing about it. You're a cliche. We've all heard it all 1000x over.

Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

Ironically, the only group I’ve ever seen be confidently incorrect about Jesus’s race is black supremacist groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites. They openly claim that Jesus was black

The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity.

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

Pethead wrote:The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

If you feel I am mocking then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way. I am simply supplying evidence of an old agenda that harkens back to political conquest, an agenda that was forced and ingrained into society, a systemic, caste system. I have explained this in an earlier post quite thoroughly but it got ignored as I suspected it would.

Now Seth made a light hearted meme that I found hilarious too, it's my kind of humor. But it implies Dusty is a little cray cray and a making stories up about a white Jesus, like the guy that hears the voice of Christ telling him to kill people to kill the demons inside them.

Then I simply used that meme and made the interrogator a Christian who ignores the abundant evidence in the room around them of a white Jesus and white mary and white disciples and white Moses etc... while gaslighting cray cray dusty until he agrees that he made it all up (hello Catholics). The Christian interrogator is pleased to hear this and hopes the topic never comes up again.

Google Jesus in the image search and tell me what you see... If you're a westerner, we all grew up with that guy.
 

Black Rider wrote:So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity

I don't keep bringing it up I was happy to let it go frankly. It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts a while back as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

It is what it is. The only reason anyone would call this mocking is because "it hits you where you live."

moving on.

This is hardly the only thread where you’ve decided to vent your spleen against Christianity. If it were my mocking comment would be out of line. However, I guarantee you that many have noticed you taking as many chances as you can lately to take shots at Christians and Christianity. But then when you get pushback you play the victim, even though you’re coming onto a Christian board and then taking shots at Christians.

The thing is I’m happy to talk about the faith with unbelievers, as I imagine the rest of us here are. But that’s not the same as just laughing along when our faith is attacked. 

You want us to admit that professing—and even actual Christians have done awful things? Sure, I’ll admit that no hesitation. I have a mirror whenever I need to see a sinner. Do unbelievers do humanly laudable acts? Absolutely, and I’ve known plenty. 

But you also can’t dismiss history when it comes to the existence of Christ and then claim history is on your side whenever you want to stick it to Christians. That’s not intellectually honest.

Dustofyears wrote:

seth wrote:Scott is right, that isn’t a “gotcha.” As has been said before, many depictions of Jesus are made to look like the race/ethnicity of the artist and their culture. Including white people. However, you seem to be arguing that a significant amount of people, historically or currently, actually think Jesus is European and not Middle Eastern Jewish, and that He is some sort of white supremacist icon or something. Which is completely false. Like I said earlier, if you can find some sources that anyone historically actually thought Jesus was European feel free to drop them here.

It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

Pethead wrote:The thing is, Dust used to just come here to talk music. But lately he’s gone out of his way to mock all of us dumb-dumbs who believe in the Lord.

If you feel I am mocking then you have to ask yourself why you feel that way. I am simply supplying evidence of an old agenda that harkens back to political conquest, an agenda that was forced and ingrained into society, a systemic, caste system. I have explained this in an earlier post quite thoroughly but it got ignored as I suspected it would.

Now Seth made a light hearted meme that I found hilarious too, it's my kind of humor. But it implies Dusty is a little cray cray and a making stories up about a white Jesus, like the guy that hears the voice of Christ telling him to kill people to kill the demons inside them.

Then I simply used that meme and made the interrogator a Christian who ignores the abundant evidence in the room around them of a white Jesus and white mary and white disciples and white Moses etc... while gaslighting cray cray dusty until he agrees that he made it all up (hello Catholics). The Christian interrogator is pleased to hear this and hopes the topic never comes up again.

Google Jesus in the image search and tell me what you see... If you're a westerner, we all grew up with that guy.
 

Black Rider wrote:So Dust brought up white Jesus, we all said yeah, he's not white but he keeps bringing it up as if he proved a point. For someone who doesn't believe in Jesus he sure seems to know his ethnicity

I don't keep bringing it up I was happy to let it go frankly. It's not about people believing if Jesus was white. it's about the origin, history and the white Jesus used as  political conquest as explained in my previous posts a while back as clearly as I could make it and which was interestingly, though not surprisingly, ignored.

It is what it is. The only reason anyone would call this mocking is because "it hits you where you live."

moving on.

You made a couple good points. I understand the meme better know. I think the only thing you're missing is that we aren't actually denying that White Jesus is what we usually see. We're just denying the accuracy. The average human being, even the average Christian, I find embarrassingly dumb.

Now the only problem I have with your meme is that Kurt wasn't even hiding