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Post by TZ75 Wed May 31, 2023 2:37 pm

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Black Rider wrote:Well, you say there's no God so what's left?
No one knows. But I do know the word God and gods and religion are made from the minds of men for the benefit of Mr Kite.[/quite]
So you're an atheist. There's no other options.
Okay Kerrick no worries.

Just to answer Rider one final time— That's exactly it. Who says there has to be an option at all. It's a human need to want an answer, some purpose, especially in the face of impending doom, to want to make sense of all we are and this puzzle we find ourselves in. I'm perhaps what you might call agnostic if you need the conditioning of a label.  And I'll leave it on that note.

Jaydee I watched the actual interview. Was interesting. Didn't realize he had cancer. Yeah he's still bitter but I bet there's some truth in what he's saying also.

just to add, not nice saying he hopes Steve Rowe dies a horrible death though. That's pretty bitter all right. Also I don't it's an act  Jaydee or some Benton schtick. That's genuine hate and bitterness he spitting out there.

If you are “agnostic”, why do you speak as if you are certain?

An agnostic simply doesn’t know.
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Post by TZ75 Wed May 31, 2023 2:48 pm

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Luke Easter wrote:I don't understand why anyone has any interest in anything either of these two have to say. Quit amplifying nonsense.

Simon had mentioned a conversation with you on Facebook that apparently went south. Something to do with Ronald Reagan. 

He said he still wants you to do the show.
I have no idea who Simon is, but having watched this clip I can't imagine wanting to waste my time.
In the Jim Chaffin episode he claims to have argued with you on a Christian metal forum and says he would like you on the show. Sorry I have no time stamp. 

OT: This episode is a new low even for Roger.

I have no recollection of an exchange with him, but maybe it happened. Regardless, I have no interest in being on his YouTube show. You can't have a discussion with someone who's already decided they kn ow better, and (at the risk of sounding full of myself) I have no interest in generating traffic for him. So, no thanks, Simon.

But, Simon says… 

Sorry! 80’s reference for those that are a bit older. lol!

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Post by Sevenoneself Wed May 31, 2023 9:57 pm

jaydeecrawson wrote:
Raegoul wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:I don't understand why anyone has any interest in anything either of these two have to say. Quit amplifying nonsense.

Simon had mentioned a conversation with you on Facebook that apparently went south. Something to do with Ronald Reagan. 

He said he still wants you to do the show.
I have no idea who Simon is, but having watched this clip I can't imagine wanting to waste my time.
In the Jim Chaffin episode he claims to have argued with you on a Christian metal forum and says he would like you on the show. Sorry I have no time stamp. 

OT: This episode is a new low even for Roger.

by the way dude: I have a "Raegoul" tattoo on my left arm in traditional tattoo lettering... purty cool!
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Post by Raegoul Wed May 31, 2023 10:28 pm

Sevenoneself wrote:
jaydeecrawson wrote:
Raegoul wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:I don't understand why anyone has any interest in anything either of these two have to say. Quit amplifying nonsense.

Simon had mentioned a conversation with you on Facebook that apparently went south. Something to do with Ronald Reagan. 

He said he still wants you to do the show.
I have no idea who Simon is, but having watched this clip I can't imagine wanting to waste my time.
In the Jim Chaffin episode he claims to have argued with you on a Christian metal forum and says he would like you on the show. Sorry I have no time stamp. 

OT: This episode is a new low even for Roger.

by the way dude: I have a "Raegoul" tattoo on my left arm in traditional tattoo lettering... purty cool!
PICTURE?? Pretty Please?
Very nice. Anyone found out what Raegoul actually means or refers to? I know Mose‘s father in law was called Reghuel but that‘s all I came up with.
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Post by Dustofyears Wed May 31, 2023 10:37 pm

TZ75 wrote:
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Black Rider wrote:Well, you say there's no God so what's left?
No one knows. But I do know the word God and gods and religion are made from the minds of men for the benefit of Mr Kite.[/quite]
So you're an atheist. There's no other options.
Okay Kerrick no worries.

Just to answer Rider one final time— That's exactly it. Who says there has to be an option at all. It's a human need to want an answer, some purpose, especially in the face of impending doom, to want to make sense of all we are and this puzzle we find ourselves in. I'm perhaps what you might call agnostic if you need the conditioning of a label.  And I'll leave it on that note.

Jaydee I watched the actual interview. Was interesting. Didn't realize he had cancer. Yeah he's still bitter but I bet there's some truth in what he's saying also.

just to add, not nice saying he hopes Steve Rowe dies a horrible death though. That's pretty bitter all right. Also I don't it's an act  Jaydee or some Benton schtick. That's genuine hate and bitterness he spitting out there.

If you are “agnostic”, why do you speak as if you are certain?

An agnostic simply doesn’t know.
Thought I made myself pretty clear but don't worry about it. This is really a pointless circle jerk as it always is with these types of conversations. I'm going to get on with life unaffected by God or gods or devils and Hell and you can keep believing in it.

The end.
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Post by TZ75 Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:10 am

Dustofyears wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
Black Rider wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
Black Rider wrote:Well, you say there's no God so what's left?
No one knows. But I do know the word God and gods and religion are made from the minds of men for the benefit of Mr Kite.[/quite]
So you're an atheist. There's no other options.
Okay Kerrick no worries.

Just to answer Rider one final time— That's exactly it. Who says there has to be an option at all. It's a human need to want an answer, some purpose, especially in the face of impending doom, to want to make sense of all we are and this puzzle we find ourselves in. I'm perhaps what you might call agnostic if you need the conditioning of a label.  And I'll leave it on that note.

Jaydee I watched the actual interview. Was interesting. Didn't realize he had cancer. Yeah he's still bitter but I bet there's some truth in what he's saying also.

just to add, not nice saying he hopes Steve Rowe dies a horrible death though. That's pretty bitter all right. Also I don't it's an act  Jaydee or some Benton schtick. That's genuine hate and bitterness he spitting out there.

If you are “agnostic”, why do you speak as if you are certain?

An agnostic simply doesn’t know.
Thought I made myself pretty clear but don't worry about it. This is really a pointless circle jerk as it always is with these types of conversations. I'm going to get on with life unaffected by God or gods or devils and Hell and you can keep believing in it.

The end.

Promise?!  Smile

I’m not trying to be on bad terms with anyone, but I also refuse to accept disrespect. 

Finito.
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Post by Dustofyears Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:22 am

TZ75 wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
Black Rider wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
Black Rider wrote:Well, you say there's no God so what's left?
No one knows. But I do know the word God and gods and religion are made from the minds of men for the benefit of Mr Kite.[/quite]
So you're an atheist. There's no other options.
Okay Kerrick no worries.

Just to answer Rider one final time— That's exactly it. Who says there has to be an option at all. It's a human need to want an answer, some purpose, especially in the face of impending doom, to want to make sense of all we are and this puzzle we find ourselves in. I'm perhaps what you might call agnostic if you need the conditioning of a label.  And I'll leave it on that note.

Jaydee I watched the actual interview. Was interesting. Didn't realize he had cancer. Yeah he's still bitter but I bet there's some truth in what he's saying also.

just to add, not nice saying he hopes Steve Rowe dies a horrible death though. That's pretty bitter all right. Also I don't it's an act  Jaydee or some Benton schtick. That's genuine hate and bitterness he spitting out there.

If you are “agnostic”, why do you speak as if you are certain?

An agnostic simply doesn’t know.
Thought I made myself pretty clear but don't worry about it. This is really a pointless circle jerk as it always is with these types of conversations. I'm going to get on with life unaffected by God or gods or devils and Hell and you can keep believing in it.

The end.

Promise?!  Smile
Promise. Never looking back again. Take it easy I am signing out of here to better things. Cheers.
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Post by TZ75 Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:26 am

No hard feelings on my part. 

Crank up some Seventh Angel!
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Post by Dustofyears Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:32 am

No hard feelings dude. Still love Seventh Angel that'll never change!!! Peace out.
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Post by TZ75 Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:33 am

Take care Dust!
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Post by jaydeecrawson Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:24 pm

Sevenoneself wrote:
jaydeecrawson wrote:
Raegoul wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:I don't understand why anyone has any interest in anything either of these two have to say. Quit amplifying nonsense.

Simon had mentioned a conversation with you on Facebook that apparently went south. Something to do with Ronald Reagan. 

He said he still wants you to do the show.
I have no idea who Simon is, but having watched this clip I can't imagine wanting to waste my time.
In the Jim Chaffin episode he claims to have argued with you on a Christian metal forum and says he would like you on the show. Sorry I have no time stamp. 

OT: This episode is a new low even for Roger.

by the way dude: I have a "Raegoul" tattoo on my left arm in traditional tattoo lettering... purty cool!
PICTURE?? Pretty Please?

here ya go.

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Post by jaydeecrawson Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:25 pm

Raegoul wrote:
Sevenoneself wrote:
jaydeecrawson wrote:
Raegoul wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
Luke Easter wrote:I don't understand why anyone has any interest in anything either of these two have to say. Quit amplifying nonsense.

Simon had mentioned a conversation with you on Facebook that apparently went south. Something to do with Ronald Reagan. 

He said he still wants you to do the show.
I have no idea who Simon is, but having watched this clip I can't imagine wanting to waste my time.
In the Jim Chaffin episode he claims to have argued with you on a Christian metal forum and says he would like you on the show. Sorry I have no time stamp. 

OT: This episode is a new low even for Roger.

by the way dude: I have a "Raegoul" tattoo on my left arm in traditional tattoo lettering... purty cool!
PICTURE?? Pretty Please?
Very nice. Anyone found out what Raegoul actually means or refers to? I know Mose‘s father in law was called Reghuel but that‘s all I came up with.

Good question.... I've always just thought it was a demon's name or the name of that demon / monster thingy on the old VR t-shirts.... but that's just a theory I've had since I was a kid.... maybe we should call Roger and ask him! LoL

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Post by TZ75 Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:23 pm

Raegoul is like Ragu spaghetti sauce, only much more spicy!


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Post by Sevenoneself Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:50 pm

Thanks Raegoul!
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Post by TZ75 Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:15 pm

Just got my Vengeance “can’t get out” shirt today. It looks great!
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Post by Opeth3232 Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:18 pm

MagnusPrime wrote:
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TZ75 wrote:A part of me is curious to see Gary Lenaire appear on it. Who better to know both sides of the fence? Gary is a very intelligent person and well spoken when he chooses to be. In comparison, the way Roger conducts himself is embarrassing and childish! All he does is insult people that don’t think like he does.
Insults people that don't think like he does...well now why does that sound familiar... (Not you personally TZ), but in general... the damage done throughout history, bloodshed because of a fictional character that exists only in your head and used politically over and over again (religion on the whole) so much hypocrisy in Christianity its unbelievable you are all blind to it. We see what we want to see.

...and here we go again.

Not blind to it. Just not obsessed with it. 

Why are you so antagonistic and bitter? 

Are you seeing what you want to see?
Not obsessed or even thinking it over... always turning the blind eye to the savages of your religion on mass and small scales. The hypocrisy is huge. The very foundations of Christianity is built on total Hypocrisy and contradictions.

and to answer the last question, because it has been my experience.

SO enigmatic. 
You have such a disdain for Christianity, but like a moth to a flame, you keep coming back. You have a major chip on your shoulder. Can you show me on the doll where the crusades hurt you?
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Post by Opeth3232 Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:19 pm

jaydeecrawson wrote:
TZ75 wrote:He called Ted K “dead Ted”, and Steve Rowe an ungrateful rodent. 

I feel sorry for Roger. He’s still very angry. His heart is hardened.

Yeah. I caught that too....

I personally think it's an "act".... he's trying to be like Glenn Benton or something... I dunno.

I also noticed he's not man enough to face Larry Farkas on there.
Cowards almost always hide behind there keyboards. Couldn't agree with you more
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Post by oldschooldoom Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:09 pm

Last month I watched this bizarre YouTube channel (Atheists Having Cocktails with Christians) doing interviews with: Roger Martinez, Jimmy P Brown and George Ochoa.

I came away feeling very proud of how Jimmy and George handled themselves. I felt appalled and saddened how Roger presents himself. But mostly disgusted with the immaturity of the host. It's like a slo-mo train wreck, I just could not look away.
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Post by TZ75 Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:25 pm

It’s sensationalism for clicks and views. Immaturity is to be expected. It’s like the spider seducing prey into his web.

He didn’t know that George Ochoa is a strong defender of the faith. He wasn’t wavered in the slightest. I think it frustrated the host, but all he could do is offer respect.
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Post by Pro-Zak Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:55 am

Rogers's faith was tested, and he fell away. Now he is an antagonist, Ojo Taylor was like this for years, though it seems as if he's backed off a bit with the reformation of Undercover. Many are like this, have an old friend who is the same, once they leave the faith they become adamant scoffers, almost like they need to convince themselves...🤔
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Post by StevenCressler Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:47 pm

I read the first page of this discussion and I guess that's the Dust the rest of you always see lol
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Post by Pro-Zak Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:23 pm

Is there anything on line that Gary shared about his return to the faith? Say a video or interview...
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Post by seth Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:36 pm

Pro-Zak wrote:Is there anything on line that Gary shared about his return to the faith? Say a video or interview...
https://thecmr.forumotion.com/t14159-has-gary-lenaire-come-back-to-christianity?highlight=gary#260327

See this thread. He made a very powerful statement imo
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