Re: Sacrament News + a new band arise...

by mothy Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:48 am

Im really starting to get excited the more I hear

by Son of Nun Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:53 pm

I'm not sure yet. It seems like age inevitably leads to Groove Metal for these old school Thrash bands.

by mothy Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:29 pm

What's wrong with groove metal

by TZ75 Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:04 am

mothy wrote:What's wrong with groove metal

I like it!

by Son of Nun Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:54 am

mothy wrote:What's wrong with groove metal

It's wack. Thrash till death!

by Pethead Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:45 am

I like thrash bands that add some groove into their sound, but I’m not big on straight groove metal.

by mothy Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:04 am

Son of Nun wrote:
mothy wrote:What's wrong with groove metal

It's wack. Thrash till death!

LOL I hear ya, I guess we will see what the rest of the album sounds like. The first song was really good though

by average joe Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:32 am

by TZ75 Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:39 am

average joe wrote:

So far I’m liking the new songs! The vocals are the only thing I need to adjust to… I miss the original style with the shrieking.

by Constantine Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:14 pm

This new song is very good.
I do miss Michael Torone's older vocal style though.
But the new style fits the music they are trying to craft.

In the interview they say they don't have an album title but their ETA is to release the album in the spring (May/June).
No immediate plans to play live; they haven't even played together in a room yet, they record everything remotely.

by average joe Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:24 am

TZ75 wrote:
average joe wrote:

So far I’m liking the new songs! The vocals are the only thing I need to adjust to… I miss the original style with the shrieking.

And missing the speed! Waiting for the speed and thrash picking that never appears. Can thrash be slow tempo or is it technically no longer considered thrash if the tempo only rises to mid-tempo? Seems to be slow temp groove metal with death-ish vocals at this point I guess. Definitely different without Toy’s thrash picking and Torone’s higher screams and lower growls mixed in. I guess it boils down to working with the talent(s) you have. Still could be cool, and the message will obviously be the same…just different musically with the new band name.

by Constantine Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:48 am

They explain the different style in the interview.

by Temple of Blood Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:44 am

Thrash doesnt have to be fast

by average joe Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:53 pm

True. Can you provide some examples of good slow tempo thrash for a point of reference?

by Constantine Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:24 pm

Here is the latest song from Testimony Of Apocalypse (a.k.a. former members of Sacrament):

Toward the middle it has some heavy Coroner vibes.....

by Black Rider Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:14 pm

Holy cow is that recorded loud. I agree on the Coroner vibes.

by TZ75 Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:45 pm

I like Coroner! Been a major fan since 1991. I welcome that sound with a Christian band.

by TZ75 Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:03 pm

I can hear Coroner style riffing even on Haunts of Violence. I wouldn’t be surprised if the guys from Sacrament are fans.

by Temple of Blood Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:54 pm

average joe wrote:True. Can you provide some examples of good slow tempo thrash for a point of reference?

Mid-paced Thrash songs:

by Temple of Blood Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:07 pm

I listened to both the old Sacrament discs last week.

If there are Coroner vibes, there aren't many, and a lot more groove than Coroner in their drumming and sound. I wouldn't be surprised if the guys were fans of Coroner though. Why would a thrash musician not find something to appreciate in Coroner's music after all?

This new band really doesn't sound like Sacrament at all, especially in the guitar style, but that is not a criticism. I like this recent song the best of the three. I agree with others that something needs to be done with that mix but I imagine that it will be before it is all finished.

by Black Rider Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:45 pm

I think the Corner comes in some of the tempo and even the guitar. Definitely not a copy though.

by TZ75 Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:00 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:I listened to both the old Sacrament discs last week.

If there are Coroner vibes, there aren't many, and a lot more groove than Coroner in their drumming and sound. I wouldn't be surprised if the guys were fans of Coroner though. Why would a thrash musician not find something to appreciate in Coroner's music after all?

This new band really doesn't sound like Sacrament at all, especially in the guitar style, but that is not a criticism. I like this recent song the best of the three. I agree with others that something needs to be done with that mix but I imagine that it will be before it is all finished.

Maybe it’s just me, but I think the title track “Haunts of Violence” has the Mental Vortex vibe. The same way Tommy Baron would combine the melodic notes with the crunchy chords.

Sorry, it’s hard to describe what I’m talking about. But the Coroner song “Son of Lilith” has the same formula.

by average joe Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:22 am

Temple of Blood wrote:I listened to both the old Sacrament discs last week.

If there are Coroner vibes, there aren't many, and a lot more groove than Coroner in their drumming and sound. I wouldn't be surprised if the guys were fans of Coroner though. Why would a thrash musician not find something to appreciate in Coroner's music after all?

This new band really doesn't sound like Sacrament at all, especially in the guitar style, but that is not a criticism. I like this recent song the best of the three. I agree with others that something needs to be done with that mix but I imagine that it will be before it is all finished.

What did you think of the remasters?

by Temple of Blood Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:33 am

average joe wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:I listened to both the old Sacrament discs last week.

If there are Coroner vibes, there aren't many, and a lot more groove than Coroner in their drumming and sound. I wouldn't be surprised if the guys were fans of Coroner though. Why would a thrash musician not find something to appreciate in Coroner's music after all?

This new band really doesn't sound like Sacrament at all, especially in the guitar style, but that is not a criticism. I like this recent song the best of the three. I agree with others that something needs to be done with that mix but I imagine that it will be before it is all finished.

What did you think of the remasters?

I loved the sound but thought the packaging besides the cover was very cheap. I definitely prefer this version of ToA.

by TZ75 Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:20 pm

New update for ToA.

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