Hot takes.

Superjuice wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:If Black Metal didn't have image and posturing, it wouldn't have much.

I watched a hilarious video about Venom's early years the other day and how they were in many ways a fake band built on fake concerts /promo pictures, etc and hadn't really played many shows at all.  Once they finally got on tour to a wide audience everyone a few songs in realized they were terrible.  The entire black metal scene is based on that band.  More evidence for my "image ruins music" point I made in another thread.

My high school "criminal class" according to frequently worn T-shirt:

Metallicats were bad boys but still mostly somewhat mainstream and redeemable.  Megadeth t-shirt kids were more rebellious but had an edge of intelligence.  G'n'R guys were of low intelligence, tried to look the bad boy part, but still mostly abided by the rules.  Slayer guys were usually in trouble, weren't going to finish school, and badly behaved, but Venom kids were still the most reprobate.   The kids that wore Venom t-shirts in high school were the most degenerate kids imaginable.  They wouldn't make it past freshman year, loved all things satanic, did drugs, and went straight to juvey hall.

Black Rider wrote:Have you met jazz players? Real jazz, not the Kenny G stuff. They take themselves way too seriously.

strangerhoncho wrote:

Superjuice wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:If Black Metal didn't have image and posturing, it wouldn't have much.

I watched a hilarious video about Venom's early years the other day and how they were in many ways a fake band built on fake concerts /promo pictures, etc and hadn't really played many shows at all.  Once they finally got on tour to a wide audience everyone a few songs in realized they were terrible.  The entire black metal scene is based on that band.  More evidence for my "image ruins music" point I made in another thread.

My high school "criminal class" according to frequently worn T-shirt:

Metallicats were bad boys but still mostly somewhat mainstream and redeemable.  Megadeth t-shirt kids were more rebellious but had an edge of intelligence.  G'n'R guys were of low intelligence, tried to look the bad boy part, but still mostly abided by the rules.  Slayer guys were usually in trouble, weren't going to finish school, and badly behaved, but Venom kids were still the most reprobate.   The kids that wore Venom t-shirts in high school were the most degenerate kids imaginable.  They wouldn't make it past freshman year, loved all things satanic, did drugs, and went straight to juvey hall.

This is great!  Then again, my best friend was a Slayer and Cannibal Corpse t-shirt wearer and he went on to become a fireman and then a cop (still is).  Of course, that was after I got him into Christ through Christian metal.