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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:19 am

My name is Lucifer please take my hand
Look into my eyes, you will see who i am...


The same band that wrote after forever... lolz


You could view that as a warning too Smile



man I love dem cherries lemme tell ya...I'm just playing Smile



Happy listening Twisted Evil



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Happy listening Metal 2
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Post by TZ75 Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:20 am

And to be even more accurate. Angel of Death was written about a specific person, Josef Mengele. He was called the Angel of Death. He performed gruesome experiments on innocent victims.
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:24 am

StevenCressler wrote:
TZ75 wrote:… more regarding “Jump in the Fire” lyrics. 


When I listen to Angel of Death by Slayer, I don’t condone the actions of Nazis. The song was written in a historical way depicting the horrors of the third Reich. It’s a mini horror movie set to music.
And I know they themselves also don't condone them.
Well even if they did they ain't gonna say it black and white are they.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:57 am

Dustofyears wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
TZ75 wrote:… more regarding “Jump in the Fire” lyrics. 


When I listen to Angel of Death by Slayer, I don’t condone the actions of Nazis. The song was written in a historical way depicting the horrors of the third Reich. It’s a mini horror movie set to music.
And I know they themselves also don't condone them.
Well even if they did they ain't gonna say it black and white are they.
Not unless they were black metal. Nazi black metal artists don't try hiding it one bit, they literally have their own genre.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:58 am

Dustofyears wrote:My name is Lucifer please take my hand
Look into my eyes, you will see who i am...


The same band that wrote after forever... lolz


You could view that as a warning too Smile



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A lot of people consider Sabbath's "demonic" songs warnings with shock value thrown in. I can see that.
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Post by seth Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:04 am

I think for songs like that what’s important is the intent. Is the writer trying to glorify demonic things or blaspheme? Or trying to paint a realistic picture of hell and Satan as a warning? Or something else, like just using it for shock value or “horror” aspect?

A good example of the second one is Biogenesis’ Bet Your Soul, written by a Christian from the perspective of Satan:

“ Now I will introduce myself, I'm known by many names
Lucifer, the devil, I'm the keeper of the games
So if you don't believe I exist, that's okay, I'll keep the beat
The more you roll the dice, the easier you are to defeat

Roll the dice, play your hand
Draw your card, check mate

I'm the voice inside your head, I'll make you think your life's in vain
I'm the author of your sorrow, I'm the keeper of your pain
I know you think you know it all, but I bet you'll feel the heat
When you look away, you fall victim to my deceit

I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
What you believe, what you thought, that you knew for so long
I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
You know it all, but there's so much you could never know
What's your move

So now we must conclude this game, and you'll know my claim to fame
I'm the maker of every lie, and I just can't wait for you to die
So if you are satisfied, and your choices are complete
I will see you in hell, begging at my feet

I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
What you believe, what you thought, that you knew for so long
I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
You know it all, but there's so much you could never know
What's your move

Just believe the lies I tell
The unseen ones, the angels that fell
Just believe there is no God, just as they tell
I will gladly welcome you to hell”
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:10 am

seth wrote:I think for songs like that what’s important is the intent. Is the writer trying to glorify demonic things or blaspheme? Or trying to paint a realistic picture of hell and Satan as a warning? Or something else, like just using it for shock value or “horror” aspect?

A good example of the second one is Biogenesis’ Bet Your Soul, written by a Christian from the perspective of Satan:

“ Now I will introduce myself, I'm known by many names
Lucifer, the devil, I'm the keeper of the games
So if you don't believe I exist, that's okay, I'll keep the beat
The more you roll the dice, the easier you are to defeat

Roll the dice, play your hand
Draw your card, check mate

I'm the voice inside your head, I'll make you think your life's in vain
I'm the author of your sorrow, I'm the keeper of your pain
I know you think you know it all, but I bet you'll feel the heat
When you look away, you fall victim to my deceit

I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
What you believe, what you thought, that you knew for so long
I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
You know it all, but there's so much you could never know
What's your move

So now we must conclude this game, and you'll know my claim to fame
I'm the maker of every lie, and I just can't wait for you to die
So if you are satisfied, and your choices are complete
I will see you in hell, begging at my feet

I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
What you believe, what you thought, that you knew for so long
I bet your soul, bet your soul that you're wrong
You know it all, but there's so much you could never know
What's your move

Just believe the lies I tell
The unseen ones, the angels that fell
Just believe there is no God, just as they tell
I will gladly welcome you to hell”
There's also Red's "What You Keep Alive," and my own (currently unmade) "Existence Ignored".
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:14 am

StevenCressler wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
TZ75 wrote:… more regarding “Jump in the Fire” lyrics. 


When I listen to Angel of Death by Slayer, I don’t condone the actions of Nazis. The song was written in a historical way depicting the horrors of the third Reich. It’s a mini horror movie set to music.
And I know they themselves also don't condone them.
Well even if they did they ain't gonna say it black and white are they.
Not unless they were black metal. Nazi black metal artists don't try hiding it one bit, they literally have their own genre.
Yeah and only 5 people know who they are except for their 5 skinhead blackmetal edgelord nazi fans lolz. Slayer is a big mainstream metal band.
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:17 am

Please to meet you can you guess my name...Rolling Stones another one.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:21 am

Dustofyears wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
TZ75 wrote:… more regarding “Jump in the Fire” lyrics. 


When I listen to Angel of Death by Slayer, I don’t condone the actions of Nazis. The song was written in a historical way depicting the horrors of the third Reich. It’s a mini horror movie set to music.
And I know they themselves also don't condone them.
Well even if they did they ain't gonna say it black and white are they.
Not unless they were black metal. Nazi black metal artists don't try hiding it one bit, they literally have their own genre.
Yeah and only 5 people know who they are except for their 5 skinhead blackmetal edgelord nazi fans lolz. Slayer is a big mainstream metal band.
Yeah
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:22 am

Dustofyears wrote:Please to meet you can you guess my name...Rolling Stones another one.
Is this another TUI, or am I not getting something?
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:44 am

erm..not sure what that means...but anyway, Sympathy for the Devil by rolling stones it's Lucifer talking in first perspective and telling everyone where and what he's seen throughout history. The song you mentioned sounds like a rip off from that song. Check it out if you haven't heard it. Also Guns n Roses did a fine cover of it.


Sorry I mean the song Seth mention with Lyrics by Christian artist, sounds very much inspired by the rolling Stones Sympathy for the Devil song, sort of anyway the beginning part, almost as if the artist knew the stones song and wrote a song in answer to the call.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:04 am

Dustofyears wrote:erm..not sure what that means...but anyway, Sympathy for the Devil by rolling stones it's Lucifer talking in first perspective and telling everyone where and what he's seen throughout history. The song you mentioned sounds like a rip off from that song. Check it out if you haven't heard it. Also Guns n Roses did a fine cover of it.


Sorry I mean the song Seth mention with Lyrics by Christian artist, sounds very much inspired by the rolling Stones Sympathy for the Devil song, sort of anyway the beginning part, almost as if the artist knew the stones song and wrote a song in answer to the call.
Okay, that sounds interesting. Will check it out sometime.
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Post by Airola Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:58 am

Saviour Machine's Antichrist I is perhaps the best example of a song written from the point of view of the Devil/Antichrist/Beast/etc. Those lyrics could be deemed as blasphemous by themselves, but it's a concept album so the other songs put it in a correct context.

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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:27 am

It's very clear that Mustaine was into Satanism when he was young.
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Post by seth Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:18 pm

Dustofyears wrote:erm..not sure what that means...but anyway, Sympathy for the Devil by rolling stones it's Lucifer talking in first perspective and telling everyone where and what he's seen throughout history. The song you mentioned sounds like a rip off from that song. Check it out if you haven't heard it. Also Guns n Roses did a fine cover of it.


Sorry I mean the song Seth mention with Lyrics by Christian artist, sounds very much inspired by the rolling Stones Sympathy for the Devil song, sort of anyway the beginning part, almost as if the artist knew the stones song and wrote a song in answer to the call.
I wouldn’t call it a ripoff of the Rolling Stones, although there may have been inspiration especially with the “Now I will introduce myself” line. First of all, extremely different musical style, second of all, songs from the devil’s perspective worded in such a way as to be a warning are somewhat common. Bride has several, and Impellitteri has at least one for example
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Post by seth Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:19 pm

Speaking of the Rolling Stones and the discussion earlier in this thread, they’re probably tied with Nirvana for the most overrated band ever to exist
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Post by TZ75 Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:45 pm

Who decides what is overrated?
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Post by seth Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:46 pm

Me 😎
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Post by Black Rider Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:10 pm

😆 I don't think someone born in this century should talk about band being overrated that started 35 years before they were born.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:33 pm

seth wrote:Speaking of the Rolling Stones and the discussion earlier in this thread, they’re probably tied with Nirvana for the most overrated band ever to exist

The Rolling Stones was the Beatles of their time.
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:51 pm

seth wrote:Speaking of the Rolling Stones and the discussion earlier in this thread, they’re probably tied with Nirvana for the most overrated band ever to exist
I agree with Rolling Stones being overrated. I never liked them and how they even get compared to the Beatles is beyond me.
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:52 pm

TZ75 wrote:Who decides what is overrated?
Perspectives...perspectives...by the way...my name is....Jester...
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:53 pm

seth wrote:Me 😎
That's the spirit Seth and damn right!
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Post by seth Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:54 pm

Dustofyears wrote:
seth wrote:Speaking of the Rolling Stones and the discussion earlier in this thread, they’re probably tied with Nirvana for the most overrated band ever to exist
I agree with Rolling Stones being overrated. I never liked them and how they even get compared to the Beatles is beyond me.
I’m not really a Beatles fan, their music isn’t exactly my kind of style, but they’re certainly far better than the Stones
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