Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

by Hardcore Christian Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:56 pm

Kerrick wrote:
sentient 6 wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:Dont start a *you know what* debate

....but did ya know what scripture says about......

......psych !

You're on thin ice buster... THIN ICE...

by Grindboy Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:48 pm

sentient 6 wrote:
Grindboy wrote:Wow, I'm the only Gary vote?

Ok.

Pathogenic must be your favorite then ?

I could almost go with all Gary songs, but I still do like the contrast of the more traditional metal style of Guy included in the mix.

Yep, Pathogenic is my favorite, by a good bit. I like some of the Luke stuff too, I think Microscopic was strong. But all Gary songs would sound great to me too!

by Guest Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:32 pm

Microscopic view of a telescopic realm is the best album of Luke era. Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance is the best Tourniquet album ever.

by cailen Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:56 am

Why not both?

Guy and Gary !!! Cool

Gary for the agressive and thrashy parts and Guy for the unique special rest.

Perfect examples: Ark of suffering, Psychosurgery, En Hakkore ...

Can´t vote for that, so...Ritter (stop the bleeding performance)!

by Guest Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:04 am

For me I loved Guy's vocals as my fav Tourniquet albums are Stop the Bleeding and Pathogenic Occular Dissonance

I did love a song from Vanishing Lessons which was Bearing Gruesome Cargo and in that song I think Luke's vocals rule!

Ive not really heard anything in the last few years by them I oughta check some recent stuff out

by deathisgain Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:09 am

I like them all, except when Luke sings old Guy Ritter material. He just doesn't have the style for it.

by metalh Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:56 pm

I might have said Guy 10 years ago... But these days, it's Luke by a country mile. I just don't have any time for the falsetto vocals. I think that Gary has a killer thrash voice, and I wish he would have done more vocals for them. My favorite TourniqueT album is MVTR followed very closely by POD. I think Guy's vocals sound the best on POD. STB is the rarest listen in my TQT collection.

As far as the TQT Ark stuff is concerned, I think it's great that Ted is keeping busy and putting out a lot of new music. I'm down with the "modern" influences. I would say that the Ark is more of a novelty listen, but I do enjoy it from time to time. It's not in regular rotation like MVTR, POD, VL, C2C, WMARD, and AB.

I will say this... 'The Slave Ring' is a pretty bad @$$ song! I love me some core! Haha!

by Hardcore Christian Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:14 pm

metalh wrote: I love me some core! Haha!

Finally someone else Razz

by bassdude Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:03 am

Put me down for both + Gary....I like all of them for different reasons.

by Superjuice Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:32 pm

Guy Ritter - 3 years w/ Tourniquet
Luke Easter - 20+ years w/ Tourniquet, still gets less respect for his contributions from some fans.

by Temple of Blood Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:43 pm

Are we to think that is unfair?

by Airola Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:08 pm

Superjuice wrote:Guy Ritter - 3 years w/ Tourniquet
Luke Easter - 20+ years w/ Tourniquet, still gets less respect for his contributions from some fans.

Well, if those 3 years have their best albums and the 20 years have their "worst", I don't think it's completely unfair to give more respect to the 3-year man than to the 20-year man.
(EDIT: just to be clear here, I don't think Tourniquet has any bad albums, so the word "worst" just means less good than the first three - the later albums are still all somewhere between good and phenomenal)

I'm a huge fan of Tourniquet, both new and old. There are only a handful of Tourniquet songs I don't like.

In this poll I voted for Guy Ritter, as he simply is one of the best metal/rock singers I know. Luke is not bad. I even think he did phenomenal job on Vanishing Lessons, and one of my all time favorite Tourniquet vocals are in Flowering Cadaver off Antiseptic Bloodbath. Luke really does fantastic job in the second half of the song (it's even perhaps my all time favorite Luke moment). But there is no way around it; Guy Ritter was really something else. The uniqueness and the passion just comes from him in a way that very rare metal vocalist manages to bring out.

I guess I'm really in "why not both" camp as I really enjoy both, but I think Guy Ritter deserves a vote here as he stands up right there next to the all-time greats of heavy metal. No amount of years in the band changes that.

by Superjuice Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:56 am

Temple of Blood wrote:Are we to think that is unfair?

No, I just find it ironic. If the guy stuff is better, then it's better.

by Guest Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:22 pm

Guy Ritter!!! Not really a fan of the Luke albums to be honest. Not that they're bad. Just not a fan.

"Stop the Bleeding" on the other hand ... fantastic album from beginning to end!

Also, Guy Ritter's band before Tourniquet (Holy Danger) is good too. Too bad they only released one album. What a shame. Guy and Dee Harrington had such incredible chemistry together.

by Temple of Blood Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:27 pm

Superjuice wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:Are we to think that is unfair?
No, I just find it ironic. If the guy stuff is better, then it's better.

No problem, I was just trying to understand what you're getting at.

by Guest Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:44 am

Guy Ritter only.

the first three Tourniquet albums are MASTERPIECES.

by Superjuice Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:54 am

jaydeecrawson wrote:Guy Ritter only.

the first three Tourniquet albums are MASTERPIECES.

Too bad he couldn't find another band to streamline his talents into. Wonder if he got black-balled after his t-quet days? Although the music industry changed for the worst after Pathogenic and there wasn't a lot of demand for a KD type a' vocalist.

by ludey7 Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:46 pm

Guy did sing on the two Echo Hollow records. To be honest I didn't think either was very good. Couple of ok songs but NOTHING close to his work in Tourniquet.

by Hardcore Christian Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:11 pm

ludey7 wrote:Guy did sing on the two Echo Hollow records. To be honest I didn't think either was very good. Couple of ok songs but NOTHING close to his work in Tourniquet.

I really enjoyed Diet Of Worms
Never got into their second one

I wish they were still going though too!

by Samson Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:07 pm

by Believer12 Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:35 am

When Guy Ritter wasn't trying to hard to sound like King Diamond he was always my favorite singer.

by Superjuice Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:43 pm

Believer12 wrote:When Guy Ritter wasn't trying to hard to sound like King Diamond he was always my favorite singer.

Guy never heard any KD until he was well into his career with Tourniquet.

by Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:03 am

I like Luke on "Vanishing Lessons" and "Carry The Wounded (EP)" after that it is very hit n miss.

Guy was just unique enough to keep things very interesting for the four years (or so) he was in the band.

by Guest Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:09 pm

This thread inspired me to spin Pathogenic Occular Dissonance and after listening to it for the first time in years. I would change my vote to Gary I know he did most of the vox and I just love his style. But I also like Guy's style on the first album. Luke's I find not to be my cup of tea but I love the song Bearing Gruesome Cargo I just love that song. But its been many years since ive really spun anything so Im kinda curious to check out the rest of the catalog after which my opinion will prob. change I used to have Carry the Wounded or Crawl to China? I cant remember but I remember that I enjoyed that album too.

by Guest Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:39 pm

I lost track of Tourniquet after "Crawl to China". That album was a bit too weird for me.

I kinda wish they had stayed the same lineup as the first album.

But I understand things change ...

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