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Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:46 pm

Dont start a *you know what* debate  Laughing
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Deepfriar on Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:57 pm

I actually like both. Both have shined in their moments. Never had trouble with Tourniquet vocals. Never had trouble with Tourniquet anything. What a great band.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Machine Fish on Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:51 pm

Same here, both have contributed to Tourniquet's legacy of awesomeness.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:57 pm

I voted Ritter
Just because he was so unique, dont get me wrong I could pick out Luke's voice anywhere too but Ritter is just special to me.

Ive always loved the first 5 albums
I just cant get into anything after Crawl To China

To me Ritter Tourniquet should be the doomy thrash oriented stuff while Easter should be the more soft rock Vanishing Lesson esque type stuff.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Black Rider on Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:29 pm

Soft Rock? Have you listened to A Microscopic View?  Cool
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by eatbugs on Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:43 pm

Nothing "soft rock" about Luke except Acoustic Archives.

I voted both.  Luke sings on my favorite and "least favorite" Tourniquet albums.  I like everything they have ever done.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:53 pm

Black Rider wrote:Soft Rock? Have you listened to A Microscopic View?  Cool
I meant I only like his soft rock albums Vanishing/China
eatbugs wrote:Nothing "soft rock" about Luke except Acoustic Archives.
What ever genre Nazi Razz
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:12 pm

I am not a big fan of Ritter's vocals, but I am definetely not very keen on Luke.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by stevegarveyfan on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:31 am

While Luke has his moments, it's hard to imagine a vocal performance better than Guy's on "Stop the Bleeding".  That was out-of-this-world awesome.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:59 am

stevegarveyfan wrote:While Luke has his moments, it's hard to imagine a vocal performance better than Guy's on "Stop the Bleeding".  That was out-of-this-world awesome.
I agree
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by bjorn agin on Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:15 am

I voted for Ritter. While I do like Luke's vocals, Guy's vocals on songs like Broken Chromosomes take the song to another level.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by alldatndensum on Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:39 am

I don't care for Guy's voice at all or a lot of the speedy stuff that Tourniquet did on the first three albums.  All I will listen to is the Luke era, and then I don't listen to it often.  I didn't get the newest album with all the guest vocals at all and probably won't.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:52 am

There are lots of modern influences in the Tourniquet ark album. I have listened to it a couple of times, only. The best song of this album is the rerecording of Broken Chromosomes.

My vote in this poll was for Ritter, even though I have to recognize that Lenaire was important in the vocals, as well.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Grindboy on Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:55 am

Wow, I'm the only Gary vote?

Ok.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Candlemass on Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:01 am

Like both, but leans towards Luke, never became a fan til China...
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by d@v!d on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:54 pm

Grindboy wrote:Wow, I'm the only Gary vote?

Ok.
No.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by d@v!d on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:56 pm

I remember thinking Guy was better in the studio than live, was holding the band back, and thinking that's why he was moved on.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by sentient 6 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:23 pm

For me, nothing will beat the chemistry that Guy, Gary and Ted had on those first three albums. The culmination of that magic is found in one of the greatest Christian albums ever, pathogenic. There wasn't the choice of Gary and Guy, because I would have chosen that. I love the trade off and contrast of both their styles on those early Tourniquet albums.

I've always had to try hard to enjoy Lukes vocals, and I can't quite put my finger on why. Best way I could put it is that there seems to be a bit of a " nasally " quality to Lukes style ? Almost like a mutated " Guy Ritter " sound ? I know it sounds harsh, but I don't know any other way to describe it. Its not so bad that it keeps me from the Luke era albums by any means though. In his defense, I really do enjoy his clean vocals though.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by sentient 6 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:27 pm

Grindboy wrote:Wow, I'm the only Gary vote?

Ok.

Pathogenic must be your favorite then ?


I could almost go with all Gary songs, but I still do like the contrast of the more traditional metal style of Guy included in the mix.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by sentient 6 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:29 pm

Thiago-Brazil wrote:There are lots of modern influences in the Tourniquet ark album.

Other than the subject matter, that's one of the main reasons I don't like it. Too many " core " vocals and it seems to have filter into the Tourniquet sound as well ? I hope Ted goes back to a more Thrash-based sound on his next one.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:43 pm

sentient 6 wrote:For me, nothing will beat the chemistry that Guy, Gary and Ted had on those first three albums. The culmination of that magic is found in one of the greatest Christian albums ever, pathogenic. There wasn't the choice of Gary and Guy, because I would have chosen that. I love the trade off and contrast of both their styles on those early Tourniquet albums.
I agree those first few albums will never be beat, I think we all wouldve picked Gary and Guy Very Happy
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by pathogenics_cloned_twin83 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:03 pm

Ritter.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by sentient 6 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:07 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:Dont start a *you know what* debate  Laughing


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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Black Rider on Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:33 pm

Very Happy
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Kerrick on Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:07 pm

sentient 6 wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:Dont start a *you know what* debate  Laughing


....but did ya know what scripture says about......







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You're on thin ice buster... THIN ICE...

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:56 pm

Kerrick wrote:
sentient 6 wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:Dont start a *you know what* debate  Laughing


....but did ya know what scripture says about......







......psych ! Twisted Evil

You're on thin ice buster... THIN ICE...

lol!
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Grindboy on Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:48 pm

sentient 6 wrote:
Grindboy wrote:Wow, I'm the only Gary vote?

Ok.

Pathogenic must be your favorite then ?


I could almost go with all Gary songs, but I still do like the contrast of the more traditional metal style of Guy included in the mix.

Yep, Pathogenic is my favorite, by a good bit.  I like some of the Luke stuff too, I think Microscopic was strong.  But all Gary songs would sound great to me too!

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:32 pm

Microscopic view of a telescopic realm is the best album of Luke era. Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance is the best Tourniquet album ever.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by cailen on Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:56 am

Why not both?

 Guy and Gary !!! Cool

 Gary for the agressive and thrashy parts and Guy for the unique special rest.

 Perfect examples: Ark of suffering, Psychosurgery, En Hakkore ...

Can´t vote for that, so...Ritter (stop the bleeding performance)!
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:04 am

For me I loved Guy's vocals as my fav Tourniquet albums are Stop the Bleeding and Pathogenic Occular Dissonance

I did love a song from Vanishing Lessons which was Bearing Gruesome Cargo and in that song I think Luke's vocals rule!

Ive not really heard anything in the last few years by them I oughta check some recent stuff out

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by deathisgain on Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:09 am

I like them all, except when Luke sings old Guy Ritter material. He just doesn't have the style for it.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by metalh on Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:56 pm

I might have said Guy 10 years ago... But these days, it's Luke by a country mile. I just don't have any time for the falsetto vocals. I think that Gary has a killer thrash voice, and I wish he would have done more vocals for them. My favorite TourniqueT album is MVTR followed very closely by POD. I think Guy's vocals sound the best on POD. STB is the rarest listen in my TQT collection. 

As far as the TQT Ark stuff is concerned, I think it's great that Ted is keeping busy and putting out a lot of new music. I'm down with the "modern" influences. I would say that the Ark is more of a novelty listen, but I do enjoy it from time to time. It's not in regular rotation like MVTR, POD, VL, C2C, WMARD, and AB.

I will say this... 'The Slave Ring' is a pretty bad @$$ song! I love me some core! Haha!

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:14 pm

metalh wrote: I love me some core! Haha!
Finally someone else Razz

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by bassdude on Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:03 am

Put me down for both + Gary....I like all of them for different reasons.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Superjuice on Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:32 pm

Guy Ritter - 3 years w/ Tourniquet
Luke Easter - 20+ years w/ Tourniquet, still gets less respect for his contributions from some fans.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:43 pm

Are we to think that is unfair?

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Airola on Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:08 pm

Superjuice wrote:Guy Ritter - 3 years w/ Tourniquet
Luke Easter - 20+ years w/ Tourniquet, still gets less respect for his contributions from some fans.

Well, if those 3 years have their best albums and the 20 years have their "worst", I don't think it's completely unfair to give more respect to the 3-year man than to the 20-year man.
(EDIT: just to be clear here, I don't think Tourniquet has any bad albums, so the word "worst" just means less good than the first three - the later albums are still all somewhere between good and phenomenal)


I'm a huge fan of Tourniquet, both new and old. There are only a handful of Tourniquet songs I don't like.

In this poll I voted for Guy Ritter, as he simply is one of the best metal/rock singers I know. Luke is not bad. I even think he did phenomenal job on Vanishing Lessons, and one of my all time favorite Tourniquet vocals are in Flowering Cadaver off Antiseptic Bloodbath. Luke really does fantastic job in the second half of the song (it's even perhaps my all time favorite Luke moment). But there is no way around it; Guy Ritter was really something else. The uniqueness and the passion just comes from him in a way that very rare metal vocalist manages to bring out.


I guess I'm really in "why not both" camp as I really enjoy both, but I think Guy Ritter deserves a vote here as he stands up right there next to the all-time greats of heavy metal. No amount of years in the band changes that.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Superjuice on Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:56 am

Temple of Blood wrote:Are we to think that is unfair?
No, I just find it ironic.  If the guy stuff is better, then it's better.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Guest on Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:22 pm

Guy Ritter!!! Not really a fan of the Luke albums to be honest. Not that they're bad. Just not a fan.

"Stop the Bleeding" on the other hand ... fantastic album from beginning to end!

Also, Guy Ritter's band before Tourniquet (Holy Danger) is good too. Too bad they only released one album. What a shame. Guy and Dee Harrington had such incredible chemistry together.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Temple of Blood on Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:27 pm

Superjuice wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:Are we to think that is unfair?
No, I just find it ironic.  If the guy stuff is better, then it's better.
No problem, I was just trying to understand what you're getting at.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:44 am

Guy Ritter only.

the first three Tourniquet albums are MASTERPIECES.

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Post by Superjuice on Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:54 am

jaydeecrawson wrote:Guy Ritter only.

the first three Tourniquet albums are MASTERPIECES.
Too bad he couldn't find another band to streamline his talents into.  Wonder if he got black-balled after his t-quet days?  Although the music industry changed for the worst after Pathogenic and there wasn't a lot of demand for a KD type a' vocalist.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by ludey7 on Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:46 pm

Guy did sing on the two Echo Hollow records. To be honest I didn't think either was very good. Couple of ok songs but NOTHING close to his work in Tourniquet.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:11 pm

ludey7 wrote:Guy did sing on the two Echo Hollow records.  To be honest I didn't think either was very good. Couple of ok songs but NOTHING close to his work in Tourniquet.
I really enjoyed Diet Of Worms
Never got into their second one

I wish they were still going though too!
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by H.M. Murdock on Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:07 pm

Guy
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Believer12 on Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:35 am

When Guy Ritter wasn't trying to hard to sound like King Diamond he was always my favorite singer.
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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Superjuice on Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:43 pm

Believer12 wrote:When Guy Ritter wasn't trying to hard to sound like King Diamond he was always my favorite singer.
Guy never heard any KD until he was well into his career with Tourniquet.


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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Guest on Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:03 am

I like Luke on "Vanishing Lessons" and "Carry The Wounded (EP)" after that it is very hit n miss.

Guy was just unique enough to keep things very interesting for the four years (or so) he was in the band.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:09 pm

This thread inspired me to spin Pathogenic Occular Dissonance and after listening to it for the first time in years. I would change my vote to Gary I know he did most of the vox and I just love his style. But I also like Guy's style on the first album.  Luke's I find not to be my cup of tea but I love the song Bearing Gruesome Cargo I just love that song. But its been many years since ive really spun anything so Im kinda curious to check out the rest of the catalog after which my opinion will prob. change I used to have Carry the Wounded or Crawl to China? I cant remember but I remember that I enjoyed that album too.

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Re: Tourniquet: Guy or Luke

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:39 pm

I lost track of Tourniquet after "Crawl to China". That album was a bit too weird for me.

I kinda wish they had stayed the same lineup as the first album.

But I understand things change ...

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