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Post by Pethead Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:53 pm

At the Gate of Sethu is a killer Nile album.

Edge of Thorns is the best Savatage album.

The debut is the weakest of the first 3 Metal Church albums
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Post by Temple of Blood Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:25 pm

Headcrusher is a better song than Holy Wars.
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Post by Pethead Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:26 pm

Ooh, ToB, now we’re cooking.
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Post by Pethead Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:04 pm

By Inheritance>Reign in Blood
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Post by MagnusPrime Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:16 pm

Crux Of The Mosh > ...And Justice For All















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Post by Pethead Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:30 pm

Crux of the Mosh is certainly memorable.
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Post by Black Rider Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:35 pm

So is a rash.
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Post by Pethead Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:28 pm

I’ll take the rash.
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Post by TZ75 Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:58 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:Headcrusher is a better song than Holy Wars.

Not even close! 

Crusher is good modern Megadeth, but it sounds too polished and busy. Holy Wars is premium old school thrash.
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Post by Pethead Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:27 am

I don’t know that I’d put any modern Deth over any song on RiP besides maybe “Poison Was the Cure” and “Dawn Patrol.”

I do think “Headcrusher” is one of the best modern Deth tunes, though, even though I’m not all that big on Endgame as a whole.
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Post by TZ75 Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:35 am

Pethead wrote:I don’t know that I’d put any modern Deth over any song on RiP besides maybe “Poison Was the Cure” and “Dawn Patrol.”

I do think “Headcrusher” is one of the best modern Deth tunes, though, even though I’m not all that big on Endgame as a whole.

Rust is almost a perfect album. I even enjoy Poison Was the Cure and Dawn Patrol. Although I suspect that Dawn Patrol was purposefully written to provide a “cool down” intermission for Mustaine and Friedman to recharge their batteries. Even Nick Menza got to relax a little bit.
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Post by Pethead Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:46 am

I enjoy those a lot too, but I’d put them at the bottom of the RiP tracks.
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Post by Son of Nun Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:41 am

Pethead wrote:At the Gate of Sethu is a killer Nile album.

I'd say it's Top 3.
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Post by MagnusPrime Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:16 pm

The songs on Beyond Magnetic are better than most of Death Magnetic.
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Post by StevenCressler Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:42 pm

MagnusPrime wrote:The songs on Beyond Magnetic are better than most of Death Magnetic.
Don't exactly agree (I think they're about average compared to the actual album), but I still gave you a thumbs up because you actually know about BM lol.
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Post by MagnusPrime Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:15 am

If Death Magnetic had been a double-album:

Disc One:
1. That Was Just Your Life
2. The End Of The Line
3. Broken Beat & Scarred
4. The Day That Never Comes
5. All Nightmare Long
6. Hell And Back
7. Rebel Of Babylon

Disc Two:
1. Hate Train
2. Just A Bullet Away
3. Cyanide
4. The Unforgiven III
5. The Judas Kiss
6. Suicide & Redemption
7. My Apocalypse
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Post by StevenCressler Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:14 am

MagnusPrime wrote:If Death Magnetic had been a double-album:

Disc One:
1. That Was Just Your Life
2. The End Of The Line
3. Broken Beat & Scarred
4. The Day That Never Comes
5. All Nightmare Long
6. Hell And Back
7. Rebel Of Babylon

Disc Two:
1. Hate Train
2. Just A Bullet Away
3. Cyanide
4. The Unforgiven III
5. The Judas Kiss
6. Suicide & Redemption
7. My Apocalypse
Was that album length still too long for one disc back then?
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Post by MagnusPrime Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:52 am

StevenCressler wrote:
MagnusPrime wrote:If Death Magnetic had been a double-album:

Disc One:
1. That Was Just Your Life
2. The End Of The Line
3. Broken Beat & Scarred
4. The Day That Never Comes
5. All Nightmare Long
6. Hell And Back
7. Rebel Of Babylon

Disc Two:
1. Hate Train
2. Just A Bullet Away
3. Cyanide
4. The Unforgiven III
5. The Judas Kiss
6. Suicide & Redemption
7. My Apocalypse
Was that album length still too long for one disc back then?

If you added all four tracks from Beyond Magnetic, the running time of DM would be about 104 minutes.

So yes, there would need to be two discs.
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Post by alldatndensum Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:35 pm

Constantine wrote:Some bands just seem to make the same album over and over, like (later) Overkill or AC/DC.  I don't get it...is it just to throw new product out there?  Aren't they concerned about diluting their brand?

What I find even stranger is that their fans will say "this is their best album yet!" while I'm rolling my eyes and thinking "this sounds exactly like their last album."  It's like the Emperor's New Clothes in the music realm.


An interviewer once told Angus Young that people were saying they had made 11 albums that sounded the same.  Angus replied that it was actually 12 albums they'd done that sounded the same!  LOL

It's AC/DC.  It's kind of like a hamburger from someplace that you love.  Every time you go there, you want THAT burger.  You don't want to try something different.  You want another burger that was just like the previous one.  That's AC/DC.  We keep going back to them because we want a similar sound and groove.  If we wanted them to change, we would have bought a dozen other AC/DC wannabes to replace them with.  OK, we did that, too, but we kept going back to the masters.  We didn't expect them to keep morphing over time.  A lot of bands that try that don't survive too long when the fan backlash begins.
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Post by Dustofyears Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:49 pm

yip yip remember that interview with Angus saying that it cracked me up lolz. Wouldn't have ac/dc any other way! That's the burger I want every time all the time coz nothing taste better!
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Post by TZ75 Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:47 am

If it ain’t broken, why fix it?
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Post by StevenCressler Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:50 am

Kerrick wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:I think I just like taking the opportunity to name a great nu-metal album considering that's the main thing they're known as. But yeah, they are more avantegarde nu-thrash Armenian folk metal. I love unique bands like them and Tourniquet.

I wonder if you might like Leander Kills?  I was given a [signed*] CD of their second album and while it's not something I listen to often, it's pretty good for what it is.  The vocalist is very talented and often compared to SOAD.  The lyrics are all in Hungarian but to my knowledge they're clean.  They blend Hungarian folk with nu-metal and are very popular in Hungary.



*My in-laws' good friends' daughter is/was dating one of the members haha.
Yeah, that was good! I still like SOAD more, but this was a strong song. Sorry I took so long to get around to it lol
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Post by Kerrick Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:21 am

Haha no worries!  Having never listened to SOAD much, I really don't know how comparable they really are beyond the general musical style and the vocals.

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Post by StevenCressler Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:22 am

Kerrick wrote:Haha no worries!  Having never listened to SOAD much, I really don't know how comparable they really are beyond the general musical style and the vocals.
I definitely hear some similarities. There's a lot of differences too, but I can see the comparisons for sure.
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Post by Pethead Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:01 pm

Funeral doom>melodeath
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