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The dude with the sausages during the fast was Zwingli. And he supposedly didn't even eat any.Pethead wrote:Tomorrow is Reformation Day, so don’t forget to leave out beer and sausages for Martin Luther tonight!
Tbh, I have an issue with celebrating Luther, the antisemite, and Zwingli the anabaptist murderer, and Calvin who coined the doctrine of predestination to eternal damnation. All of those dudes were corrupted by power eventually, sucking up to the rulers and governments of the states protecting them because that gave them an excuse to get rid of their obligations towards the pope.
If we celebrate the reformation, we should think of the martyrs who died for their beliefs, such as Felix Manz, Michael Sattler and the countless others to whom we owe stuff like freedom of religion, separation of church and state, believer's baptism, etc.
I'll get off my hobby horse now.
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Further, being a Baptist myself, I am well aware that Zwingli, for example, would’ve likely drowned me in a river for my beliefs. But that doesn’t mean that I deny that God accomplished great good through the magisterial reformers. Martin Luther is not solely responsible for the reformation, of course, not by a long shot. But for better or for worse, nailing the 95 Theses to that door in Wittenberg became a flashpoint for the reformation as a whole, and so I have no issue remembering its significance. I can assure you that I don’t idolize Luther.
And I did mention it was joke, right?
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Yeah I got that, just wanted to check out how it feels to be on the moral high ground for once. Sucks, tbh.Pethead wrote:You realize that was a joke, right?
Further, being a Baptist myself, I am well aware that Zwingli, for example, would’ve likely drowned me in a river for my beliefs. But that doesn’t mean that I deny that God accomplished great good through the magisterial reformers. Martin Luther is not solely responsible for the reformation, of course, not by a long shot. But for better or for worse, nailing the 95 Theses to that door in Wittenberg became a flashpoint for the reformation as a whole, and so I have no issue remembering its significance. I can assure you that I don’t idolize Luther.
And I did mention it was joke, right?
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Raegoul wrote:Yeah I got that, just wanted to check out how it feels to be on the moral high ground for once. Sucks, tbh.Pethead wrote:You realize that was a joke, right?
Further, being a Baptist myself, I am well aware that Zwingli, for example, would’ve likely drowned me in a river for my beliefs. But that doesn’t mean that I deny that God accomplished great good through the magisterial reformers. Martin Luther is not solely responsible for the reformation, of course, not by a long shot. But for better or for worse, nailing the 95 Theses to that door in Wittenberg became a flashpoint for the reformation as a whole, and so I have no issue remembering its significance. I can assure you that I don’t idolize Luther.
And I did mention it was joke, right?
In all seriousness, you and I would’ve been thrown in the river together.
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Ironically, our church baptises in that same river.Pethead wrote:Raegoul wrote:Yeah I got that, just wanted to check out how it feels to be on the moral high ground for once. Sucks, tbh.Pethead wrote:You realize that was a joke, right?
Further, being a Baptist myself, I am well aware that Zwingli, for example, would’ve likely drowned me in a river for my beliefs. But that doesn’t mean that I deny that God accomplished great good through the magisterial reformers. Martin Luther is not solely responsible for the reformation, of course, not by a long shot. But for better or for worse, nailing the 95 Theses to that door in Wittenberg became a flashpoint for the reformation as a whole, and so I have no issue remembering its significance. I can assure you that I don’t idolize Luther.
And I did mention it was joke, right?
In all seriousness, you and I would’ve been thrown in the river together.
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I take it your church is in the anabaptist tradition?
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Yes and no, it's an Evangelische Täufergemeinde. They go by Apostolic Christian Church in the US. The denomination was only founded in the 1830s by a Swiss dude, however, he was influenced by older Anabaptist congregations parts of which also integrated his church. But yeah, baptism is a big deal.Pethead wrote:That’s actually pretty neat and a testimony to God’s grace.
I take it your church is in the anabaptist tradition?
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I always do because I get way more than I can eat in one day. More about the amount I'd eat in a month (or at least a few weeks)Kerrick wrote:Who else has leftover Halloween candy?
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This is helpful: https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-copyright.html
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