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The last of the classified JFK documents to be released tomorrow (Thurs. 10/26)
Thanks Big Don!
3000 files long and, previously, the release dates were blocked by GW Bush and Obama. Nothing shady there. Heheheh..
This could be devastating or it could be so redacted we don't get any new info. Oswald's tax returns are still locked up though - that would be the final shoe to drop.
We shall see what we shall see.
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This could be a big revelation or nothing new
Either way I will be excited to see what comes of it
Either way I will be excited to see what comes of it
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I am almost expecting nothing new. If there were a big government cover up, I highly doubt the information would have been recorded. No agency really wants to take the public heat that they covered something up. With the very current falsified dossier on Trump meeting with the Russians that the Clinton campaign paid to create and the FBI/CIA took and ran with, neither of those agencies look credible right now. If it turns out that the FBI covered up the real killer or who paid the real killer, then the FBI will have to do a lot of kissing up to repair their image in the public eye. I doubt they would have ever wanted to have egg on their face over a cover up, yet it does happen. Maybe they have been inept or corrupt all along. Who knows?
Maybe I should just go to work. LOL
Maybe I should just go to work. LOL
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Nothing new.... I believe Oswald was the lone gunman. Was he acting alone? Prob not but it was him and him alone that fired the shots.
They actually did a re-enactment of the shooting on Myth Busters and it was proven that one man could have done it.
If you enjoy the stories (even fiction) check out Stephen King's 11/22/63. A very cool time travel story about JFK.
They actually did a re-enactment of the shooting on Myth Busters and it was proven that one man could have done it.
If you enjoy the stories (even fiction) check out Stephen King's 11/22/63. A very cool time travel story about JFK.
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We'll probably see a bunch of bureaucratic gobbledygook. The conspiracists will still find what they want to see there.
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I've never understood the obsession with the "classified JFK documents".
Are people REALLY expecting the files of a GOVERNMENT AGENCY to reveal information that inplicates that SAME GOVERNMENT in the assasination of it's own head-of-state?
Really?
REALLY?!
There just no way in hell any shadowy "cocnspiracy" with the power to pull such a thing off would EVER allow that type of thing to be recorded....
Are people REALLY expecting the files of a GOVERNMENT AGENCY to reveal information that inplicates that SAME GOVERNMENT in the assasination of it's own head-of-state?
Really?
REALLY?!
There just no way in hell any shadowy "cocnspiracy" with the power to pull such a thing off would EVER allow that type of thing to be recorded....
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At long last, the truth will come to light. For far too long, the vast, insidious Grand Conspiracy between the Illuminati, the Knights Templar, The Saucer People, and the Reverse Vampires has dominated our world, pulling the strings of governments from the shadows. You see, President Kennedy was going to expose them to the world, but the Grand Conspiracy had him assassinated, then had their pawns cover it up. But now we are going to DRAIN THE SWAMP! All will be revealed! OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
In all seriousness, there might well be some interesting information for this. Oswald's trip to Mexico, for instance. While it's possible that things were a bit more complicated than just a lone angry dude whacking the President, I just don't think it will be anything all that earth-shattering. It certainly won't be enough to satisfy conspiracy theorists. The most likely explanation I've read for why some wouldn't want to see these documents released is that it could harm international relations in some way. With Mexico, for example. That wouldn't bother Trump, but it would have worried previous presidents.
Or maybe the Feds bungled things a bit during the investigation, and they were worried about losing face.
Of course, when some of his supporters aren't satisfied and keep demanding answers that fit their theories, Trump can always fall back on the tried-and-true tactic of blaming Obama. When in doubt, blame Obama. For everything. Ever.
In the end, yeah, I'm curious, but there are a lot more important and interesting things going on in the world right now.
Soooo ...... how exactly do you know that the dossier is falsified? Because liberals funded the research? The Trump campaign was trying to get dirt on Clinton & Co. also. It doesn't automatically make the information gathered false - for either side. As for the FBI, I don't doubt that some at the Bureau were happy to see something that could damage Trump, but that doesn't mean that those who examined the dossier didn't think it raised legitimate concerns.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying everything in that dossier is correct. When political interests are involved, it's best to be a bit skeptical. Also, some of it may simply be erroneous. But I do think that the allegations need to be looked into.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
In all seriousness, there might well be some interesting information for this. Oswald's trip to Mexico, for instance. While it's possible that things were a bit more complicated than just a lone angry dude whacking the President, I just don't think it will be anything all that earth-shattering. It certainly won't be enough to satisfy conspiracy theorists. The most likely explanation I've read for why some wouldn't want to see these documents released is that it could harm international relations in some way. With Mexico, for example. That wouldn't bother Trump, but it would have worried previous presidents.
Or maybe the Feds bungled things a bit during the investigation, and they were worried about losing face.
Of course, when some of his supporters aren't satisfied and keep demanding answers that fit their theories, Trump can always fall back on the tried-and-true tactic of blaming Obama. When in doubt, blame Obama. For everything. Ever.
In the end, yeah, I'm curious, but there are a lot more important and interesting things going on in the world right now.
alldatndensum wrote:With the very current falsified dossier on Trump meeting with the Russians that the Clinton campaign paid to create and the FBI/CIA took and ran with, neither of those agencies look credible right now.
Soooo ...... how exactly do you know that the dossier is falsified? Because liberals funded the research? The Trump campaign was trying to get dirt on Clinton & Co. also. It doesn't automatically make the information gathered false - for either side. As for the FBI, I don't doubt that some at the Bureau were happy to see something that could damage Trump, but that doesn't mean that those who examined the dossier didn't think it raised legitimate concerns.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying everything in that dossier is correct. When political interests are involved, it's best to be a bit skeptical. Also, some of it may simply be erroneous. But I do think that the allegations need to be looked into.
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I see posters came in here with their various axes to grind (which if fine, not a criticism).
This thread could go many, many places. The dossier has already reared it's ugly head. Let's keep it JFK-related folks.
This thread could go many, many places. The dossier has already reared it's ugly head. Let's keep it JFK-related folks.
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Superjuice wrote:The dossier has already reared it's ugly head. Let's keep it JFK-related folks.
Fair enough. Point taken.
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I haven't read the whole article yet but it seems interesting at the least.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22829/shocking-revelations-heres-what-you-need-know-ryan-saavedra
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22829/shocking-revelations-heres-what-you-need-know-ryan-saavedra
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Well now ..... I have to admit, this is turning out to be more interesting than I thought it would be.
First of all, am I the only one who thought it was hilarious that they were considering offering a bounty of 2 cents on Castro? I kind of wish they had gone through with that.
For the most part, there's nothing that really surprises me. The CIA was up to some shady stuff. Interesting, but not surprising. I mean, they ARE the CIA. Incompetence on the part of the Dallas PD, Hoover worried about conspiracy theories (great job putting the kibosh on those, Mr. Hoover. ) , Johnson possibly being a former KKK member ..... again, interesting, but not shocking.
You know what does peak my interest? Someone actually managed to reign in Trump. That's no easy task. He's holding stuff back ..... at least for now. National security concerns? Okay. But all of this went down 54 years ago. The idea that there could still be a national security concern so long after the fact, and enough of one even someone like Trump pause ...... now that's intriguing. Now granted, "national security concerns" may well mean simply "national embarrassment, " and naturally I don't think there's some vast, shadowy conspiracy involved. The real reason will probably turn out to be something disappointing if comes out. Nevertheless, it does make me mighty curious.
First of all, am I the only one who thought it was hilarious that they were considering offering a bounty of 2 cents on Castro? I kind of wish they had gone through with that.
For the most part, there's nothing that really surprises me. The CIA was up to some shady stuff. Interesting, but not surprising. I mean, they ARE the CIA. Incompetence on the part of the Dallas PD, Hoover worried about conspiracy theories (great job putting the kibosh on those, Mr. Hoover. ) , Johnson possibly being a former KKK member ..... again, interesting, but not shocking.
You know what does peak my interest? Someone actually managed to reign in Trump. That's no easy task. He's holding stuff back ..... at least for now. National security concerns? Okay. But all of this went down 54 years ago. The idea that there could still be a national security concern so long after the fact, and enough of one even someone like Trump pause ...... now that's intriguing. Now granted, "national security concerns" may well mean simply "national embarrassment, " and naturally I don't think there's some vast, shadowy conspiracy involved. The real reason will probably turn out to be something disappointing if comes out. Nevertheless, it does make me mighty curious.
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Absolutely sickening:
False flag terror explained to a T.
This is why the docs have been protected for so long, some of these just reveal the low-down tactics of the deep state.
False flag terror explained to a T.
This is why the docs have been protected for so long, some of these just reveal the low-down tactics of the deep state.
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https://twitter.com/TheAndrewMeyer/status/923753033133182976
CIA had over 40 journalists in the media: this is not new thanks to the Church Committee, but there is probably a lot more today thanks to gov't security expansion. Well, Anderson Cooper does come to mind...
This is also how they were able rake Jim Garrison over the fiery coals in the media for prosecuting Clay Shaw.
CIA had over 40 journalists in the media: this is not new thanks to the Church Committee, but there is probably a lot more today thanks to gov't security expansion. Well, Anderson Cooper does come to mind...
This is also how they were able rake Jim Garrison over the fiery coals in the media for prosecuting Clay Shaw.
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Came across two VERY bizarre documents regarding FBI informants:
https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/923719201956745217/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavenysite.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F10%2F27%2Fjfkfiles-102617-tweet-storm%2F
One informant says Jack Ruby killed Officer Tippett or Ruby (Rubenstein) was designated to do so, which puts some light on who Ruby really was and why he killed Oswald as a designated clean up man.
Another one says Officer Tippett was the assassin:
https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/923737230417498113/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavenysite.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F10%2F27%2Fjfkfiles-102617-tweet-storm%2F
Mind-boggling....
If you are a rookie to this, go read Jerome Corsi's book Who Really Killed Kennedy. This will all be over your head.
https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/923719201956745217/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavenysite.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F10%2F27%2Fjfkfiles-102617-tweet-storm%2F
One informant says Jack Ruby killed Officer Tippett or Ruby (Rubenstein) was designated to do so, which puts some light on who Ruby really was and why he killed Oswald as a designated clean up man.
Another one says Officer Tippett was the assassin:
https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/923737230417498113/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavenysite.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F10%2F27%2Fjfkfiles-102617-tweet-storm%2F
Mind-boggling....
If you are a rookie to this, go read Jerome Corsi's book Who Really Killed Kennedy. This will all be over your head.
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NBC colludes with the CIA to propagandize the public:
https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/923700474208858112/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavenysite.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F10%2F27%2Fjfkfiles-102617-tweet-storm%2F
Teamsters possible connection to Jack Ruby and supposedly one head of a Teamster district says they were in on it (the hit):
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32145682.pdf
https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/923700474208858112/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavenysite.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F10%2F27%2Fjfkfiles-102617-tweet-storm%2F
Teamsters possible connection to Jack Ruby and supposedly one head of a Teamster district says they were in on it (the hit):
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32145682.pdf
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I think it was all solved by Red Dwarf. Probably one of the funniest episodes ever... Here's a clip..
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Fundy wrote:I think it was all solved by Red Dwarf. Probably one of the funniest episodes ever... Here's a clip..
This is completely off topic, but that is the best show on BBC ever!
That is all.
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Any of you guys see the documentary Unacknowledged on Netflix?
Dr. Steven Greer blew the lid off Marylin Monroe's death NOT being a suicide / accidental overdose.
He showed, an official government document (I don't know how he got it, but he got it) that was essentially a hit-list, with details on the cover up.
The super-insane absolutely-crazy part... They didn't kill her because of her affair with JFK. (that affair was ALSO documented in this government file)
...they killed her because she threatened to reveal details regarding UFO and extraterrestrial "contracts" that were established with the US.
._.
Dr. Steven Greer blew the lid off Marylin Monroe's death NOT being a suicide / accidental overdose.
He showed, an official government document (I don't know how he got it, but he got it) that was essentially a hit-list, with details on the cover up.
The super-insane absolutely-crazy part... They didn't kill her because of her affair with JFK. (that affair was ALSO documented in this government file)
...they killed her because she threatened to reveal details regarding UFO and extraterrestrial "contracts" that were established with the US.
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ThomasEversole wrote:Any of you guys see the documentary Unacknowledged on Netflix?
Dr. Steven Greer blew the lid off Marylin Monroe's death NOT being a suicide / accidental overdose.
Oddly enough, Monroe is mentioned in the latest data release:
https://twitter.com/RealMattCouch/status/923922277950992384
Initially it is a report that states there was a book being written that says Bobby Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe's apartment at the time of her death. Then it says the allegations are proven false in the final paragraph.
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The article that claims that LBJ was in the KKK also states that there was more of an attempt to "cover up the facts" rather than "unmask the assassination" (an aspect people seem to be leaving out in its discovery):
https://twitter.com/hrtablaze/status/924527372266700801
Bill Ayers was under surveillance by US intelligence since 1969:
https://www.weaselzippers.us/361944-former-president-obamas-terrorist-pal-bill-ayers-mentioned-in-jfk-assassination-files/
https://twitter.com/hrtablaze/status/924527372266700801
Bill Ayers was under surveillance by US intelligence since 1969:
https://www.weaselzippers.us/361944-former-president-obamas-terrorist-pal-bill-ayers-mentioned-in-jfk-assassination-files/
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Some new stuff released last Friday -
C.I.A. agent Wilcott said he was sure Oswald was an agent during an interview in the 1978 JFK investigation:
https://twitter.com/CharloBrooks/status/926582311436595200
MLK dossier info from the F.B.I., and this one's rough, that he engaged in some very deviant behavior:
https://twitter.com/iamjasonbailey/status/926588993361281026
Then, this one says he had communist ties/influences attached to him:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/768/cpsprodpb/142D1/production/_98614628_mlkcommunism.jpg
Make of it what you will. These are not new allegations.
C.I.A. agent Wilcott said he was sure Oswald was an agent during an interview in the 1978 JFK investigation:
https://twitter.com/CharloBrooks/status/926582311436595200
MLK dossier info from the F.B.I., and this one's rough, that he engaged in some very deviant behavior:
https://twitter.com/iamjasonbailey/status/926588993361281026
Then, this one says he had communist ties/influences attached to him:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/768/cpsprodpb/142D1/production/_98614628_mlkcommunism.jpg
Make of it what you will. These are not new allegations.
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It's funny, I remember in my high school history class (which was ~16 years ago now...), my teacher talking about how the JFK documents would be released and we'd all know the truth. Well, they're released (sort of), but everyone is still in the dark. Oh well...
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KGB had intelligence that LBJ was behind the murder:
https://twitter.com/TrishaDishes/status/924288660429819904
Oswald reported to have phoned KGB speaking broken Russian from Mexico City embassy, however, Oswald was fluent in Russian:
https://twitter.com/The_Dixon_Cider/status/923729748328529920
and....
The biggest news yet in the data dump....
Hitler still alive after WW2 and fled to South America just like the recent History Channel doc, Hunting Hitler, said he did:
https://twitter.com/TrishaDishes/status/924288660429819904
Oswald reported to have phoned KGB speaking broken Russian from Mexico City embassy, however, Oswald was fluent in Russian:
https://twitter.com/The_Dixon_Cider/status/923729748328529920
and....
The biggest news yet in the data dump....
Hitler still alive after WW2 and fled to South America just like the recent History Channel doc, Hunting Hitler, said he did:
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More CIA shenanigans, chicanery, skylarking, skullduggery -
Richard Helms (former CIA director) claims that LBJ used to go around the white house saying JFK was assassinated for ordering the murder of President Diem of Vietnam and this was justice:
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32113033.pdf
Agent Wilcott re-iterates that Lee Oswald was CIA and says he didn't speak about it while in the agency because he "was afraid, quite frankly":
https://twitter.com/EvilHillaryPics/status/926604457336434688
Richard Helms (former CIA director) claims that LBJ used to go around the white house saying JFK was assassinated for ordering the murder of President Diem of Vietnam and this was justice:
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32113033.pdf
Agent Wilcott re-iterates that Lee Oswald was CIA and says he didn't speak about it while in the agency because he "was afraid, quite frankly":
https://twitter.com/EvilHillaryPics/status/926604457336434688
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13,123 more records were let out yesterday...
Boy, this thread could be going awhile...
So far, they show tons and tons of redactions including this juicy bit:
A lot of stuff about assassinating Castro included...
All they had to do was wait 60 years...
Boy, this thread could be going awhile...
So far, they show tons and tons of redactions including this juicy bit:
A lot of stuff about assassinating Castro included...
All they had to do was wait 60 years...
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