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Post by Raegoul Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:14 pm

Neon Cross > Whitecross > Barren Cross
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Post by seth Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:19 pm

Not familiar with Neon Cross, but Barren Cross >>>>> Whitecross
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Post by seth Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:21 pm

Also, Barren Cross > Iron Maiden
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Post by Pethead Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:13 pm

Don’t know that I can pick between Barren Cross and Whitecross. Love both; it’s gotta depend on my mood.

Neither can match prime Maiden, though.
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Post by TZ75 Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:32 pm

I’m not huge on any of the “cross” bands per se… but I would give a nod to Whitecross over the other two because they had Rex Carroll. He’s by far the best guitarist in their style of metal.
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Post by Dustofyears Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:09 am

Whitecross
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Post by Raegoul Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:37 am

Whitecross is good but their lyrics - albeit bold and clear - are borderline cringy most of the times, using very obvious/simple rhymes.
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Post by Dustofyears Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:52 am

Raegoul wrote:Whitecross is good but their lyrics - albeit bold and clear - are borderline cringy most of the times, using very obvious/simple rhymes.
Wait do you like Stryper...

For me a lot of Christian metal bands lyrics are. And I ignore them if I like the music. There are some Christian bands with good lyrics too.

When it comes to Whitecross I completely ignore the lyrics and just like the music. Rex is a huge part of why I like Whitecross. I actually like him more than Van Halen.
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Post by Raegoul Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:53 am

Dustofyears wrote:
Raegoul wrote:Whitecross is good but their lyrics - albeit bold and clear - are borderline cringy most of the times, using very obvious/simple rhymes.
Wait do you like Stryper...

For me a lot of Christian metal bands lyrics are. And I ignore them if I like the music. There are some Christian bands with good lyrics too.

When it comes to Whitecross I completely ignore the lyrics and just like the music. Rex is a huge part of why I like Whitecross. I actually like him more than Van Halen.
Stryper can be cheesy but I rate the cheese higher than the Whitecross cheese. Kinda like Swiss cheese compared to American cheese (if you can call those industrial orange fat blocks cheese, that is).
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Post by Dustofyears Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:30 am

Well you definitely know your cheese G.
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Post by Soldier777 Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:58 am

All Stand Together is my least favorite Bloodgood album where it has thin prodiction. It should be remixed or rerecorded with thicker production.

I don't own not one Bride album. I'm considering getting some of the releases from 1986-1995. After the mid 90s don't like their music very much.

Ulf Christianson (Jerusalem), Bob Hartman (Petra) and Mick Mars (Motley Crue) are underrated guitar players. I think they hold back on the albums to some degree. With Petra and Jerusalem it seems to be the message and the presentation that's more important than guitar wankery. With Mick Motley Crue is mostly a sleaze party band.
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Post by Pethead Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:11 am

Seventh Avenue>Narnia
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Post by Black Rider Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:22 am

seth wrote:Also, Barren Cross > Iron Maiden
You can't be serious.
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Post by Black Rider Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:22 am

Pethead wrote:Seventh Avenue>Narnia
Yes
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Post by Pethead Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:39 am

I love these type of threads. Carry on.
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Post by MagnusPrime Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:52 am

My wayward son.
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Post by Raegoul Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:55 am

Dustofyears wrote:Well you definitely know your cheese G.

I am Swiss my dude, we pledge allegiance to a huge cheese wheel every morning.
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Post by scottmitchell74 Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:05 am

Pethead wrote:Seventh Avenue>Narnia


Infinitely so.
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Post by seth Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:28 am

Idk how Narnia got to be the most famous of Christian Liljegren’s bands, when several others are way better (especially Golden Resurrection)
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Post by StevenCressler Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:40 am

Dustofyears wrote:
Raegoul wrote:Whitecross is good but their lyrics - albeit bold and clear - are borderline cringy most of the times, using very obvious/simple rhymes.
Wait do you like Stryper...

For me a lot of Christian metal bands lyrics are. And I ignore them if I like the music. There are some Christian bands with good lyrics too.

When it comes to Whitecross I completely ignore the lyrics and just like the music. Rex is a huge part of why I like Whitecross. I actually like him more than Van Halen.
As much as I love Deliverance, their first three albums definitely have some cheese in them
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Post by scottmitchell74 Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:50 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
Raegoul wrote:Whitecross is good but their lyrics - albeit bold and clear - are borderline cringy most of the times, using very obvious/simple rhymes.
Wait do you like Stryper...

For me a lot of Christian metal bands lyrics are. And I ignore them if I like the music. There are some Christian bands with good lyrics too.

When it comes to Whitecross I completely ignore the lyrics and just like the music. Rex is a huge part of why I like Whitecross. I actually like him more than Van Halen.
As much as I love Deliverance, their first three albums definitely have some cheese in them
You mean some Cheeseburger Maker Du in them?
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Post by Dustofyears Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:23 pm

Soldier777 wrote:All Stand Together is my least favorite Bloodgood album where it has thin prodiction. It should be remixed or rerecorded with thicker production.

I don't own not one Bride album. I'm considering getting some of the releases from 1986-1995. After the mid 90s don't like their music very much.

Ulf Christianson (Jerusalem), Bob Hartman (Petra) and Mick Mars (Motley Crue) are underrated guitar players. I think they hold back on the albums to some degree. With Petra and Jerusalem it seems to be the message and the presentation that's more important than guitar wankery. With Mick Motley Crue is mostly a sleaze party band.
Bob Hartman for sure. great song writer and underrated guitarist.
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Post by Dustofyears Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:25 pm

Raegoul wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:Well you definitely know your cheese G.

I am Swiss my dude, we pledge allegiance to a huge cheese wheel every morning.
Lolz
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Post by Dustofyears Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:28 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Dustofyears wrote:
Raegoul wrote:Whitecross is good but their lyrics - albeit bold and clear - are borderline cringy most of the times, using very obvious/simple rhymes.
Wait do you like Stryper...

For me a lot of Christian metal bands lyrics are. And I ignore them if I like the music. There are some Christian bands with good lyrics too.

When it comes to Whitecross I completely ignore the lyrics and just like the music. Rex is a huge part of why I like Whitecross. I actually like him more than Van Halen.
As much as I love Deliverance, their first three albums definitely have some cheese in them
Yeah the early ones do for sure. Even jimmy admits that and sees it as a young man writing with fervent overly zealous hand. His lyrics definitely got better as time marched on in my opinion anyway.
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Post by StevenCressler Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:38 pm

Dustofyears wrote:
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Dustofyears wrote:
Raegoul wrote:Whitecross is good but their lyrics - albeit bold and clear - are borderline cringy most of the times, using very obvious/simple rhymes.
Wait do you like Stryper...

For me a lot of Christian metal bands lyrics are. And I ignore them if I like the music. There are some Christian bands with good lyrics too.

When it comes to Whitecross I completely ignore the lyrics and just like the music. Rex is a huge part of why I like Whitecross. I actually like him more than Van Halen.
As much as I love Deliverance, their first three albums definitely have some cheese in them
Yeah the early ones do for sure. Even jimmy admits that and sees it as a young man writing with fervent overly zealous hand. His lyrics definitely got better as time marched on in my opinion anyway.
One of the reasons I live Assimilation so much is how poetic the lyrics are.
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