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Post by Raegoul Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:14 am

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Post by TZ75 Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:20 am

Raegoul wrote:Vengeance - Human Sacrifice 35th Anniversary - Page 2 0008078835_10

It’s been ages since I seen their name! The early 90’s to be precise.
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Post by Raegoul Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:05 am

TZ75 wrote:
Raegoul wrote:Vengeance - Human Sacrifice 35th Anniversary - Page 2 0008078835_10

It’s been ages since I seen their name! The early 90’s to be precise.
Same, your post made me think of them.
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Post by Lex Metalis Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:14 am

My Awesome Timothy wrote:Another release of Human Sacrifice, lost count of how many times now.

* Remaster + Live tracks (and a 2CD Edition) - 2010
* Picture Disc - 2013
* Remaster + Demo tracks - 2017
* Unreleased First Mix - 2018
* Gold Disc - 2020
* Red (and also a Black) LP - 2020
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Post by Lex Metalis Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:13 pm

According by a comment in his personal profile, Pastor Bob wrote some liner notes to this new re-re-re-release
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Post by Constantine Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:24 pm

I thought the unreleased first mix from 2018 was very good and worthwhile.  
Aside from that, what more can they do with the sonics or mixing or mastering that would make this album better or more intriguing?  The original demo had horrible sound quality and I could see fiddling with that but the album itself stands on it's own at this point IMO.
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Post by TZ75 Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:17 pm

Constantine wrote:I thought the unreleased first mix from 2018 was very good and worthwhile.  
Aside from that, what more can they do with the sonics or mixing or mastering that would make this album better or more intriguing?  The original demo had horrible sound quality and I could see fiddling with that but the album itself stands on it's own at this point IMO.


The only thing left to do at this point is a traditional remix (like Pillars of Humanity) or a brand new re-recording with Roger’s vocals remixed over top. 

Although re-recordings are usually never well received by the hardcore fans, it still would be interesting to hear an updated or re-imagined take on it. I would view it as a companion to the remastered original. 

Bottom line… the original recording has already been remastered a couple times. There’s nothing more that can be done for it that way.
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Post by Raegoul Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:09 am

How about a drum n bass mash up
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Post by Lex Metalis Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:12 am

Answering some people in a facebook post, Scott Waters says "(is) a sort of (a re-release)" and "nope. not really" when he was asked about if this was the 2nd re-release
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Post by jaydeecrawson Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:07 pm

I wonder if it's re-recorded with Scott or someone on vocals??? I doubt it, but that's all I can think of at this time

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Post by mothy Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:09 pm

Oh my I hope its not Scott on vocals


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Post by Pethead Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:11 pm

I’d rather hear Scott than Roger, honestly.
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Post by TZ75 Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:41 am

I’d rather hear Scott than the guy they used on the “Visions of Hell” album.
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Post by TZ75 Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:47 am

Just promise me they won’t hire Dale Thompson!  lol!
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Post by Lex Metalis Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:19 am

TZ75 wrote:Just promise me they won’t hire Dale Thompson!  lol!

Oh... you discover the big secret 😭
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Post by MagnusPrime Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:55 am

TZ75 wrote:Just promise me they won’t hire Dale Thompson!  lol!

or...

Scott Waters will indeed front the band under the moniker of...

"Waters' Rising"


Or Roger Martinez and Scott Waters will share vocal duties in a new band called...

 "Roger / Waters"



OK I'll see myself out now.
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Post by Pethead Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:48 am

TZ75 wrote:I’d rather hear Scott than the guy they used on the “Visions of Hell” album.
I’d rather hear him than Roger, as well.
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Post by mothy Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:08 am

Pethead wrote:
TZ75 wrote:I’d rather hear Scott than the guy they used on the “Visions of Hell” album.
I’d rather hear him than Roger, as well.
@Pethead, I know you dont like Rogers vocals but man with that comment I may have to have the police or fire department come do a wellness check..... The vocals on that album are an abomination.
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Post by Pethead Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:15 am

mothy wrote:
Pethead wrote:
TZ75 wrote:I’d rather hear Scott than the guy they used on the “Visions of Hell” album.
I’d rather hear him than Roger, as well.
@Pethead, I know you dont like Rogers vocals but man with that comment I may have to have the police or fire department come do a wellness check..... The vocals on that album are an abomination.
I don’t like them, particularly, but they’re essentially standard metalcore.

I still don’t know what term to use for Roger’s vocals. “Mongoloid” was the closest I’ve seen as a description.
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Post by Pethead Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:49 am

To be fair, I like VR. I like this album. I would just like it better with another vocalist. And I’m not all that picky with thrash vocals.
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Post by MagnusPrime Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:32 am

Roger was always better when he was employing his more serious-sounding death-growl style. "From The Dead" is a good example. "The Whipping Post" is another. And of course he started using that style more often on the last 2 albums, especially RUTE.

I never cared as much for his vocals on songs like "Salvation", "Mulligan Stew", "White Throne", "Out Of The Will", the "Space Truckin" cover, etc.
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Post by Pethead Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:38 am

MagnusPrime wrote:Roger was always better when he was employing his more serious-sounding death-growl style. "From The Dead" is a good example. "The Whipping Post" is another. And of course he started using that style more often on the last 2 albums, especially RUTE.

I never cared as much for his vocals on songs like "Salvation", "Mulligan Stew", "White Throne", "Out Of The Will", the "Space Truckin" cover, etc.
Exactly! That’s why I’ve always said RuTE had his best vocals by far.
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Post by Raegoul Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:23 pm

He had over the top Mike Muir style vocals on Destruction Comes.
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Post by crucifyd Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:15 pm

Pethead wrote:I still don’t know what term to use for Roger’s vocals.

gargling razor blades...
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Post by bodachi Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:43 pm

Pethead wrote:I still don’t know what term to use for Roger’s vocals.
I once played the Human Sacrifice album for my home-schooled kids, aged 8 and younger. As soon as the vocals kicked in ALL the kids started laughing. When I asked what was so funny, my oldest said "It's Cookie Monster!"
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