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Post by WildWorld Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:39 pm

Superjuice wrote:Yay - Google and Amazon can go pound sand now.
I just hope that Amazon isnt forced to raise their prices, paticularly on their mp3/kindle downloads (which are already somewhat pricey, but still cheaper than ordering the physical product).

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Post by Athanasius Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:47 pm

ISP's have pulled that sort of thing before.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/12/15/what-net-neutrality-rollback-means-to.html

The Associated Press in 2007 found Comcast was blocking some file-sharing services. AT&T blocked Skype and other internet calling services — which competed with its voice-call business — from the iPhone until 2009.

But again once again, we'll see.  It may be that fears of a potential backlash and bad PR will provide something of a check.
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Post by Athanasius Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:59 pm

A funny Babylon Bee article related to this topic:

http://babylonbee.com/news/internet-service-providers-not-able-decide-people-can-see-online-says-man-decides-people-can-see-online/

Ah, Mark Zuckerberg.  Gotta love this guy.  Very Happy
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Post by Nocturnal Servant Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:32 pm

Net Neutrality is basically socialism for the internet. It adds more strict regulations, demonetization, censorship, discourages competitive marketing between internet companies and advertisers (thus reducing the economy), adds the ability for regulating websites, and domains. They can also regulate and restrict internet providers (Eg. AT&T, Verizon, Charter, Xfinity). Some of the specific regulations include the suspension or even the complete removal of websites or domains that "discriminate" against certain people. So, for example, if a Christian forum, or domain, doesn't want to have 10,000 articles dedicated to the LGBT and/or doesn't support/tolerate it, then their website or domain could be censored, banned, suspended, or completely removed altogether. In some cases, you might even get an IP ban.

Net Neutrality in a nutshell. It's a REALLY GOOD thing that this Net Neutrality thing got shot down, or we might not all be talking on here right now.


And while corruption has and will always exist within some companies (and every other form of organization, government, kingdom or country), authorities should deal with said companies individually when the situation arises as necessary, and should not use it as an excuse to demonetize and censor regular people just trying to use the internet because they do not want to participate in immoral doings.


Here is what Wikipedia says about Net Neutrality. A fair warning, you may have to sift and dig through all of the bias that this post reeks of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality
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Post by Athanasius Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:34 pm

Personally, I don't thing government regulations are necessarily a bad thing (though they can be and sometimes are).  I'm in favor of regulations that protect consumers, workers, public safety, and the environment.  Individuals have rules that we are expected to follow for the good of society.  Businesses should too.  There are things that are more important than the accumulation of wealth.  I'm no advocate of strict socialism, but I think laissez-faire capitalism is a bad idea as well.  But I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree on that or this topic will turn into a general debate on economics.

Mysterious Gamer Dude wrote:Some of the specific regulations include the suspension or even the complete removal of websites or domains that "discriminate" against certain people. So, for example, if a Christian forum, or domain, doesn't want to have 10,000 articles dedicated to the LGBT and/or doesn't support/tolerate it, then their website or domain could be censored, banned, suspended, or completely removed altogether. In some cases, you might even get an IP ban.

Net Neutrality in a nutshell. It's a REALLY GOOD thing that this Net Neutrality thing got shot down, or we might not all be talking on here right now.

Can you show me the part of the Net Neutrality regulations that calls for that?  Because if what you're saying is true, then that part should definitely be scrapped - though I definitely don't think that means we should scrap Net Neutrality in general.  In fact, that's kind of against the concept of Net Neutrality.

Also, are you talking about the government shutting down sites whose opinions it doesn't like, or internet companies doing so?  Because many companies had anti-discrimination policies long before 2015.
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