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Post by New Creation on Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:23 pm

Guys, I am sooooo excited! This is like the culmination of most of my metal dreams for many years now.

First, Guardian+Whitecross announced they would have a new version of "Never Gonna Say Goodbye" by Guardian, which thrilled me to no end!

Now, today April 10, they have announced that they are re-recording "In The Kingdom" by Whitecross. I am thrilled with this news as it is my most favorite Whitecross song.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:30 pm

Awesome!

Hope that they continue to make money so it can possibly get more songs added to it!
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Post by eatbugs on Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:15 pm

deathisgain wrote:They should redo "Holy War" Razz
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty on Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:39 pm

In The Kingdom is far and away the best ballad Whitecross ever did, and the rough version that was posted with Jamie singing and Rex playing acoustic guitar sounded excellent to me.


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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:57 pm

To be honest, In the Kingdom is the only whitecross ballad I care about. Funny thing, when I am in the mood for ballads, I usually go for Guardian.

BTW, cool to see that they are doing Never Say Goodbye, as well, but I would rather having a full hard rock album.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:05 pm

Another thought that comes to mind is: though we all would like to have at least one brand new song, we got to understand that, the main porpuse of this project is to show the availability of the band for concerts and tour. That's why they want to make an ep of redone songs, to make it fast and simple. So, new songs are off the table for now.

I don't mind it, as long as they come to Brazil for a concert.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Mon May 01, 2017 12:42 pm

Finally backed this project. There is not too many packages that attracted me, so I just gos a signed CD + digital download + vip pass (so, hopefully, they will come to brazil)
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Post by Follower of Jesus on Thu May 11, 2017 12:34 pm

They shared a snippet of the remade "The Rain" and it sounds fantastic! It's got a scorching solo!
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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:44 am

Got my download this morning, anyone else got this and if so what do you think?  Let's hope this is the start of something.... maybe original music in the future.  Enjoying this release for the time being.  Guitar guy
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Post by Follower of Jesus on Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:49 am

The Rain sounds great, except the chorus. They butchered the chorus! But everything else about that song is awesome here. Enough is Enough is solid. Top of the World was an unexpected choice, but sounds really good. The one new song - Spanish Castle Magic - is okay. It doesn't really sound like the other songs on this album.

Overall I'd give this a 6 or 7 out of 10.
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Post by Tombie on Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:39 am

Spanish Castle Magic, I believe, is a Hendrix remake
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Post by New Creation on Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:08 pm

In the Kingdom is blowing me away.
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Post by Follower of Jesus on Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:00 am

New Creation wrote:In the Kingdom is blowing me away.

This is a great version of that song. I forgot how good a song that really was. Outstanding message. This acoustic version works really well.
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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:33 pm

New Creation wrote:In the Kingdom is blowing me away.

Think Jamie Rowe's voice really suits this 'In The Kingdom' perfectly, sounds awesome!!!  Probably my favourite song on this record.  I don't really care for the last 2 tracks but overall would give this EP a 7 out of 10 as I really only enjoy the first 5 songs.  Like FOJ said the chorus on 'The Rain' doesn't sound as good as the original but never the less is still a good song overall.
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Post by Staybrite on Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:21 pm

I'm really digging the entire album (well not the Spanish language track so much).  While a little different vibe than the rest of the tracks I found the cover of Hendrix tune quite enjoyable as well.  Would be cool to hear them do even more covers.
I also agree with everyone else concerning the acoustic version of "In the Kingdom" it works really well in this arrangement.
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:45 pm

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If they would write some band parts where the rap stuff was and actually sing that, it could be cool.  The opening riffs, the parts where Scott sang, and the chorus were all cool.
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Post by alldatndensum on Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:21 pm

I am listening to this for my first time right now.  They definitely nailed "Enough Is Enough".  "The Rain" doesn't quite feel right on the intro but comes into its own during the main part of the song.

I realize that this record was most likely made to guage to see if there was enough interest in doing a new album.  I am disappointed that they didn't include anything new.  I do hope that this does lead to something more in the future, though.
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Post by Baddog777 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:43 pm

Oh no I didn't pledge/participate!

Is there any other way to download the EP, like Itunes or Amazon?

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Post by Staybrite on Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:00 pm

Baddog777 wrote:Oh no I didn't pledge/participate!

Is there any other way to download the EP, like Itunes or Amazon?

If you go to the store section of their webpage it looks as if they are planning to have both digital and cds available in the future.

https://guardianwhitecross.com/
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Post by alldatndensum on Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:00 pm

The band nails the Whitecross songs for the most part.  I didn't like "In The Kingdom" as they kept it acoustic and you never got the hair metal ballad feel.  Also, Jamie's voice is sounding strained on it.

I got the impression that Jamie was struggling with his higher end on the vocals.  If they do any new material in the future, he definitely needs to stay in the middle range where his true power lies these days.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:24 pm

Well, the EP is out, and they are working on the other goods.

But what about the concerts???

After all, the opportunity of playing live was the main reason for this campaign.
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Post by alldatndensum on Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:02 pm

I am going to guess that the opportunities to play live didn't materialize with them just rehashing older songs.  They NEED to do a full length album of all new songs with maybe a couple of redone classics on the record.
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Post by MikeInFla on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:18 am

Any sound samples floating around?
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:59 am

alldatndensum wrote:I am going to guess that the opportunities to play live didn't materialize with them just rehashing older songs.  They NEED to do a full length album of all new songs with maybe a couple of redone classics on the record.
Agreed. Apparently they have chosen the easiest way.

But I still have high hopes for them to come to Brazil, as it all started with a Whitecross and Guardian concert request from Brazil (their website says so).
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Post by Snert I on Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:22 pm

MikeInFla wrote:Any sound samples floating around?

amazon now has snippets of the album. It's called "The Great Whitecross & Guardian - Revival".

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Post by MikeInFla on Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:25 pm

Snert I wrote:
MikeInFla wrote:Any sound samples floating around?

amazon now has snippets of the album. It's called "The Great Whitecross & Guardian - Revival".
Cool, will check it out.
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Post by timekeeper on Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:12 am

Snert I wrote:
MikeInFla wrote:Any sound samples floating around?

amazon now has snippets of the album. It's called "The Great Whitecross & Guardian - Revival".

Not seeing anything there.
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Post by MikeInFla on Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:56 pm

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Post by timekeeper on Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:05 pm

Thanks, sounds really good.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:24 pm

It totally worth buying it, in my opinion
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Post by New Creation on Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:51 pm

I pledged for the vinyl. I never received the vinyl. Now I get a message in my email today from Boone's Overstock that they will release the CD and vinyl of this in 2018 as they "bought all the remaining copies after the supporters receive their product!"

Well, I never received my product. So how can Boone do this?
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Post by MikeInFla on Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:08 pm

Hmmm that's odd, I would first contact whoever held the pledge and then contact Boone and both of them know you never received it.
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Post by New Creation on Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:50 pm

I commented on the campaign yesterday, no reply yet
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:50 pm

Well, i just pledged a cd and I got it.

I am pissed off as it looks like no tour or even a single concert is coming out of it. At least is what looks like from the following interview:
http://www.classicchristianrockzine.com/2017/11/interview-with-michael-feighan-drummer.html?m=1
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Post by New Creation on Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:56 am

New Creation wrote:I pledged for the vinyl. I never received the vinyl. Now I get a message in my email today from Boone's Overstock that they will release the CD and vinyl of this in 2018 as they "bought all the remaining copies after the supporters receive their product!"

Well, I never received my product. So how can Boone do this?

MikeInFla wrote:Hmmm that's odd, I would first contact whoever held the pledge and then contact Boone and both of them know you never received it.

New Creation wrote:I commented on the campaign yesterday, no reply yet

Good news! David Bach had this to write on 01/16:

We just got notice! We are supposed to finally get the Vinyl next week. Any orders that have vinyl will then ship asap. Sorry for the delays but this has been something we could not control or forecast. Thanks all for your patience!
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Post by MikeInFla on Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:21 am

Great keep us posted! Would like to know how it sounds on vinyl.
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Post by alldatndensum on Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:46 am

Hopefully better than the CD.  After months of owning this, I am completely underwhelmed by it and go back to the original band recordings instead of this if I want to hear the Whitecross or Guardian songs.  These guys need a life of their own with new tunes.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:28 am

As I said before, the only purpose of this release was to help them to play concerts out there As Guardian Whitecross revival.

So, the only mandatory thing was to release it properly wth good sound quality. and they've nailed it. With this in mind, I am very pleased with the final result of it.
But of course, every fan in the world of one of these bands would rather see new material from them.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:47 pm

Thiago-Brazil wrote:As I said before, the only purpose of this release was to help them to play concerts out there As Guardian Whitecross revival.
But have they played a single concert Question
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:00 pm

No, but certainly due to the lack of interest from promoters. It is sad to say, but it looks like it didn't work out as they expected.

If you take a look at the videos and website you will see that all they talk about is to go out and play.
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Post by Wigeon on Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:16 pm

I was a little pessimistic about this project so I didn't participate in the crowd funding. I'm an old school guy, loved both bands and had the opportunity to see both bands live back in the day. But after reading some of these comments and hearing the snippets on Amazon, it sounds pretty good to me. Enough is Enough was one of my favorite Ratt..err, I mean Whitecross songs back in the day. It sounds really good with Jamie singing on it. Will make the purchase on Google Play since it is only $6.93 and I have this Google gift card I've been saving for something like this. In the Kingdom sounds pretty good too, even though I didn't really care for that song when it came out. Reminded me of "We are the World" too much.
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Post by Wigeon on Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:59 pm

The new version of In the Kingdom is a little better than the original IMO. To prove I'm old school, here's a pic of me with a Whitecross "In the Kingdom" shirt on (got at their show in Houston a few months before this), with Doug Pinnick(King's X) at a Bloodgood show in Houston around 1992. Doug was just there chilling watching Bloodgood before I rudely interrupted him for a pic!

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Post by strype53 on Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:21 pm

I finally got the record and cd in the mail.  I had given up on these ever arriving.  I have had the download version for a long time.
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Post by rtz on Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:21 pm

I just finished listening to the entire project.  Gotta say, I'm glad I didn't fund this one. ...I know I'm in the minority here, but this just didn't do it for me.....I really wanted to dig it too....

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Post by Soldier777 on Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:48 pm

When is the release date? I hear the album on you tube and it's pretty good. It's on pre-order at boonesoverstock.
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Post by grandeped on Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:01 pm

rtz wrote:I just finished listening to the entire project.  Gotta say, I'm glad I didn't fund this one. ...I know I'm in the minority here, but this just didn't do it for me.....I really wanted to dig it too....

I agree. The mix is incredibly muddy, the guitars sound buried and too thin at times, and the vocals sound strained from time to time (even noticeably off key here and there). Then when the background vocals kick in... ugh. Too high in the mix and just don't sound right.

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Post by Follower of Jesus on Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:15 pm

Spun this the other day...it isn’t aging well. I can’t imagine ever pulling it out again. When I want these songs, I’ll go to the original Guardian or Whitecross albums.
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Post by bjorn agin on Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:47 pm

Just picked this up from the Roxx Labor Day sale (yeah I'm late to the party).

This record reminds me of the "Yellow And Black Attack Is Back" cover album that Guardian did years ago. As as one-off tribute to Guardian and Whitecross songs it kind of works. As a launching pad for them to record new material, not so much.

I like Enough Is Enough and Top Of the World. Jamie's vocals really kind of fit on those songs. And I really like the acoustic version of In The Kingdom.

Not sure this will end up in regular rotation for me, but it's an enjoyable listen.
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