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Post by My Awesome Timothy Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:31 am

Really hope this can be re-released and remastered one day......maybe Roxx Productions!!!  Smile  

Love Steven Patrick's voice and this is a gem of an album that is impossible to find.  Sad

http://m.youtube.com/user/StevenPatrickSong

Bonus tracks like this could be included....

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UXyx6TR7PAk

and 'Winds Of September' another great song.  Very Happy
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:38 pm

It's a really good....not great....album that was to have been HS3, at least in part. That Winds of September is a GREAT song, but is David Zaffiro's on a different label, so I'm not sure how difficult it would be to get rights to it.

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Post by Dynamis Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:35 pm

It is my understanding that the rites to "Red Reign" are held by the artist, who has no intention of re-releasing it.

Following are several quotes from Stephen Patrick at the Holy Soldier Fan Forum made in December of 2006:

Just wanted to clarify that this album ( Red Reign) has not been reissued or re-released, nor have I given license to anyone to do so. My attorney is looking into the matter and I have sent a letter as well. There are no plans to re-release this album, as it is a collectors item and was originally sold in a limited quantity with that intention. Any new Steven Patrick albums in the future will also be released in a limited quantity and will not be re-issued.
I have had a lot of retro record companies who want to re-release this album and I have said no to all of them. I didn't make the album with the intention of making money, but as a collectors item of previously unreleased material that I had written and recorded from 1991 to 1994. As far as the attorney, I have an attorney within my family that takes care of any legal issues that could ever come up and that includes music as well, and he simply does and pursues what I don't have the time or the resorces to pursue. So hes just looking into the matter for me to protect what is mine and to protect the value of the CD for those who purchased it through E-bay or when it was or originally offered.

Following is the link to the source material: http://holysoldierfan.yuku.com/topic/418#.VLv05S4YG7Q
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:53 pm

I have his new album by the way....and it's country.... reviewed it on my sit www.glitter2gutter.blogspot.com


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Post by Dynamis Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:06 pm

Thanks for the link- you're one of my favorite reviewers.
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:10 pm

Thank you, sir....


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Post by Candlemass Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:26 pm

I don't understand that, why would any artist not want to get their art to the people that want it; "collectors item?" Question
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Post by Follower of Jesus Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:38 pm

People just obtain a copy via download when artists take unreasonable positions like this. Not saying its right, but still...
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Post by Candlemass Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:57 pm

I suppose I can understand this in terms of art painting, but I would think musically one would want it into the hands of as many as possible...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:38 pm

Follower of Jesus wrote:People just obtain a copy via download when artists take unreasonable positions like this. Not saying its right, but still...
You know, I am against ilegal downloads on internet, however, when it is not possible to get a legal copy of something, then I guess it is alright to do such a thing.

I can't understand Steven Patrick's point of view. This is not about money, this about music and what's the use for music if people can't listen to it? Music is to be heard by many people as possible.

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Post by Candlemass Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:48 pm

Thiago-Brazil wrote:
I can't understand Steven Patrick's point of view..

...control, ego?
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Post by KaramKaram Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:51 pm

If it is not about the money but the art, then let the record companies rerelease it for free and then get the money for the rerelease.
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Post by Bill Roxx Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:18 pm

Yes I have tried he is definitely not interested so you'll have to find an eBay copy unfortunately. I had a bunch of cool stuff in mind too for a reissue with some stuff in my archive, would have been nice.
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Post by Bill Roxx Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:22 pm

Been wondering about his new one can't find your review Arttie
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Post by deathisgain Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:03 am

I can understand that if he released it as a special collectors item, then his rereleaseing it will lower the value of the originals (not sure how much tho). It's this way with art.
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Post by Gandalf the White Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:30 pm

A friend gave me an mp3 copy a while back. I didn't like it.
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Post by ChosenNightwolf Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:30 am

I just checked eBay and there are two copies listed: One for $90 + $3 shipping, and the other for $69 + $8 shipping. I don't understand Steven's reluctance to reissue this at all. I think he's being ridiculous.
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Post by My Awesome Timothy Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:01 pm

ChosenNightwolf wrote: affraid I just checked eBay and there are two copies listed: One for $90 + $3 shipping, and the other for $69 + $8 shipping. I don't understand Steven's reluctance to reissue this at all. I think he's being ridiculous.
Bargain!!!
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:04 pm

Markification wrote:
ChosenNightwolf wrote: affraid I just checked eBay and there are two copies listed: One for $90 + $3 shipping, and the other for $69 + $8 shipping. I don't understand Steven's reluctance to reissue this at all. I think he's being ridiculous.
Bargain!!!

Or maybe Steven Patrick owns those copies! Laughing

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Post by d@v!d Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:34 pm

Dynamis wrote:It is my understanding that the rites to "Red Reign" are held by the artist, who has no intention of re-releasing it.

Following are several quotes from Stephen Patrick at the Holy Soldier Fan Forum made in December of 2006:

Just wanted to clarify that this album ( Red Reign) has not been reissued or re-released, nor have I given license to anyone to do so. My attorney is looking into the matter and I have sent a letter as well. There are no plans to re-release this album, as it is a collectors item and was originally sold in a limited quantity with that intention. Any new Steven Patrick albums in the future will also be released in a limited quantity and will not be re-issued.
I have had a lot of retro record companies who want to re-release this album and I have said no to all of them. I didn't make the album with the intention of making money, but as a collectors item of previously unreleased material that I had written and recorded from 1991 to 1994. As far as the attorney, I have an attorney within my family that takes care of any legal issues that could ever come up and that includes music as well, and he simply does and pursues what I don't have the time or the resorces to pursue. So hes just looking into the matter for me to protect what is mine and to protect the value of the CD for those who purchased it through E-bay or when it was or originally offered.

Following is the link to the source material: http://holysoldierfan.yuku.com/topic/418#.VLv05S4YG7Q

Thiago-Brazil wrote:I can't understand Steven Patrick's point of view. This is not about money, this about music and what's the use for music if people can't listen to it? Music is to be heard by many people as possible.
This is probably about that he hasn't realized that we are living in a digital age. He might hear about mp3's but thinking CD's in his head. I totally understand releasing a collector's item for his fans and not wanting to betray it's exclusivity by re-releasing it later. The thing is that he could simply re-release the music as a digital download that wouldn't take away from the original's collector value.
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Post by pastorbrad Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:16 pm

Not sure about all the legal stuff for what album this was gonna be on, etc.

  But I love the song!
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:18 pm

It's there, Bill. Go to the review index....it's listed last name first.


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Post by justjoe Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:14 pm

Here's some HS demos Steven put up. The last one Lake of fire is my favorite. Almost a 3rd HS album. Yes I know Promise Man out but don't count it as a HS album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Aw2h5nj2A

https://youtu.be/SbJsLHv3_Nw

https://youtu.be/p4hagKf7S7Y

https://youtu.be/tl1eHZv5haA

https://youtu.be/mwRIwrjkgBw

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Post by StarFire Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:53 pm

I'm thankful to be one of the lucky few owners of this album. Honestly though I thought it had a few good songs but didn't enjoy it as much as Holy Soldiers first two albums.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:05 pm

Candlemass wrote:I don't understand that, why would any artist not want to get their art to the people that want it; "collectors item?" Question


I have often wondered the same thing many times. I would think the greatest thrill for an artist would be for people to ENJOY his work.

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