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Post by MagnusPrime Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:52 am

We may have done this one before, but I don't care. 

I am bored and in need of mental stimulation. 

Maybe mental evaluation as well.  scratch

Anyway..................

Who would join Stryper in a Christian traditional/classic metal big four?

Mine might be...

Stryper
Bloodgood
Saint
Barren Cross

Although I'm very tempted to cheat and expand it to five so I can add Sacred Warrior.

There are lots of good bands to choose from!


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Post by Black Rider Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:36 am

I consider Stryper more hair metal so drop them and add Sacred Warrior.
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Post by Dustofyears Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:37 am

Well would you look at that!
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Post by Pethead Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:38 am

Black Rider wrote:I consider Stryper more hair metal so drop them and add Sacred Warrior.
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Post by Dustofyears Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:40 am

Guess whitecross is more van Halen hair metal... yeah and Stryper is more hair metal...SOOOooo

would have to be... Saint, Bloodgood, Barren Cross and...erm...hmmm...I know there's more than that!  Messiah Prophet?
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Post by Dustofyears Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:44 am

What's Leviticus?
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Post by TZ75 Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:46 am

Stryper
Impelliteri
Whitecross
Rob Rock


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Post by MagnusPrime Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:49 am

I consider Stryper melodic metal.

Especially their more recent material.

Most trad/classic Christian metal bands back then had the glam thing going on at some point. Take a look at their pics from the 80s.


Anyone who disagrees is a very wrong individual.
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Post by Dustofyears Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:51 am

TZ75 wrote:Stryper
Impelliteri
Whitecross
Rob Rock
Yes...he didn't get the memo...

Stryper and Whitecross, not so much, though in many ways, quite so... even Bride is debatable, but not wholly off the table...yes...I am bored!


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Post by MagnusPrime Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:52 am

TZ75 wrote:Stryper
Impelliteri
Whitecross
Rob Rock

I almost added Bride (they're a personal fav of mine), but they deviated too far off the trad metal path.
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Post by MagnusPrime Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:54 am

TZ cheated. 

He had Bride listed, then took them off.

Not fair.

Not fair at all.

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Post by TZ75 Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:59 am

MagnusPrime wrote:I consider Stryper melodic metal.

Especially their more recent material.

Most trad/classic Christian metal bands back then had the glam thing going on at some point. Take a look at their pics from the 80s.


Anyone who disagrees is a very wrong individual.

People are too hung up on the glam look... 

Is Shout at the Devil not a metal album because the Motley guys were in drag? Was Twisted Sister not metal?


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Post by TZ75 Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:00 am

MagnusPrime wrote:TZ cheated. 

He had Bride listed, then took them off.

Not fair.

Not fair at all.

Evil or Very Mad

I know… but I like Rob Rock better! 

Holy Hell is one of the best Christian metal albums!
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Post by Dustofyears Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:01 am

bad sportsmanship frankly Evil or Very Mad
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Post by TZ75 Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:03 am

Dustofyears wrote:bad sportsmanship frankly Evil or Very Mad

I changed my mind. 

Plus I didn’t think my list through before posting.  tongue
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Post by TZ75 Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:07 am

MagnusPrime wrote:
TZ75 wrote:Stryper
Impelliteri
Whitecross
Rob Rock

I almost added Bride (they're a personal fav of mine), but they deviated too far off the trad metal path.


The first Bride album is definitely metal! 

But then they went more bluesy with a Guns N Roses influence.
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Post by MagnusPrime Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:48 am

TZ75 wrote:
MagnusPrime wrote:
TZ75 wrote:Stryper
Impelliteri
Whitecross
Rob Rock

I almost added Bride (they're a personal fav of mine), but they deviated too far off the trad metal path.


The first Bride album is definitely metal! 

But then they went more bluesy with a Guns N Roses influence.

I would say the first 3 Bride are well within the metal sphere.

Starting with Kinetic Faith, they went for that whole GNR/Aerosmith/Zeppelin vibe. They were great at that too. 

Actually, think what one may of their stylistic "experimentation", Bride excelled at whatever genre they went through. 

That said, I'm glad they finally found their way back to playing stuff influenced by their earlier albums.
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Post by Dustofyears Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:39 am

^agreed, tho some of Silence is Madness is on the way to the GnR Factory. I just recently gave that album a listen, it hasn't aged well. Still a classic though.
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Post by TZ75 Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:05 pm

MagnusPrime wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
MagnusPrime wrote:
TZ75 wrote:Stryper
Impelliteri
Whitecross
Rob Rock

I almost added Bride (they're a personal fav of mine), but they deviated too far off the trad metal path.


The first Bride album is definitely metal! 

But then they went more bluesy with a Guns N Roses influence.

I would say the first 3 Bride are well within the metal sphere.

Starting with Kinetic Faith, they went for that whole GNR/Aerosmith/Zeppelin vibe. They were great at that too. 

Actually, think what one may of their stylistic "experimentation", Bride excelled at whatever genre they went through. 

That said, I'm glad they finally found their way back to playing stuff influenced by their earlier albums.

I thought Snakes in the Playground was the GNR style album. But I’ll trust your comments (you’re the bigger Bride fan).
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Post by Black Rider Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:08 pm

When people say traditional metal I think more the NWOBHM influence, otherwise any older band is included.
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Post by Black Rider Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:09 pm

MagnusPrime wrote:
TZ75 wrote:
MagnusPrime wrote:
TZ75 wrote:Stryper
Impelliteri
Whitecross
Rob Rock

I almost added Bride (they're a personal fav of mine), but they deviated too far off the trad metal path.


The first Bride album is definitely metal! 

But then they went more bluesy with a Guns N Roses influence.

I would say the first 3 Bride are well within the metal sphere.

Starting with Kinetic Faith, they went for that whole GNR/Aerosmith/Zeppelin vibe. They were great at that too. 

Actually, think what one may of their stylistic "experimentation", Bride excelled at whatever genre they went through. 

That said, I'm glad they finally found their way back to playing stuff influenced by their earlier albums.
I thought their forays into grunge and rap metal sucked.
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Post by Legitwafflez Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:32 pm

Black Rider wrote:When people say traditional metal I think more the NWOBHM influence, otherwise any older band is included.
I agree, which for me would be Saint and possibly Barren Cross. All the others could go under different sub genres, but I'm not one to call people out on which band belongs where. It's all subjective.

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Post by Black Rider Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:35 pm

Sacred Warrior and Bloodgood fit pretty well, as does the first Neon Cross.
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Post by Legitwafflez Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:39 pm

Black Rider wrote:Sacred Warrior and Bloodgood fit pretty well, as does the first Neon Cross.
Yeah I forgot about Bloodgood, I always lumped Sacred Warrior in the power metal camp but I can see that. I don't recall ever listening to Neon Cross.

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Post by Black Rider Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:41 pm

I think American style power metal has strong roots in traditional metal but you're right, it's subjective.
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