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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:20 pm

Pro-Zak wrote:Mortification
They're death, not thrash. I know people say their first album is more thrash but I think it's still full death.
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Post by StevenCressler Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:22 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
Pro-Zak wrote:Mortification
They're death, not thrash. I know people say their first album is more thrash but I think it's still full death.
I'd say some songs (like Until the End) are deathrash, but overall the album is death.
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Post by Black Rider Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:26 pm

Morty did two pure death  albums, death rash is a good way to put most their stuff.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:27 pm

Black Rider wrote:Morty did two pure death  albums, death rash is a good way to put most their stuff.
Which albums are those?
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Post by StevenCressler Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:29 pm

Black Rider wrote:Morty did two pure death  albums, death rash is a good way to put most their stuff.
That doesn't sound pleasant
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Post by StevenCressler Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:30 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
Black Rider wrote:Morty did two pure death  albums, death rash is a good way to put most their stuff.
Which albums are those?
I think he's referring to Scrolls and PMA
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:31 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Black Rider wrote:Morty did two pure death  albums, death rash is a good way to put most their stuff.
That doesn't sound pleasant
No, no it does not.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:32 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
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Black Rider wrote:Morty did two pure death  albums, death rash is a good way to put most their stuff.
Which albums are those?
I think he's referring to Scrolls and PMA
What would you say PRM is? That might be my fav mort sound.
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Post by Kerrick Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:36 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:No Betrayal on this list.  No Seventh Angel, Temple of Blood, Ultimatum, Adorned Graves, Consecrator, Detritus, Step Cousin, Living Sacrifice, Hating Evil, etc etc, etc.  But Theocracy made the cut.

I heard Temple Of Blood considers themselves more of a Christian-friendly, post-thrash metal band these days.  Not sure if they belong on this list.   Razz Twisted Evil

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Post by StevenCressler Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:38 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
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Black Rider wrote:Morty did two pure death  albums, death rash is a good way to put most their stuff.
Which albums are those?
I think he's referring to Scrolls and PMA
What would you say PRM is? That might be my fav mort sound.
Death 'n' roll
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Post by Pethead Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:39 pm

Kerrick wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:No Betrayal on this list.  No Seventh Angel, Temple of Blood, Ultimatum, Adorned Graves, Consecrator, Detritus, Step Cousin, Living Sacrifice, Hating Evil, etc etc, etc.  But Theocracy made the cut.

I heard Temple Of Blood considers themselves more of a Christian-friendly, post-thrash metal band these days.  Not sure if they belong on this list.   Razz Twisted Evil
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Post by mothy Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:02 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:A lot of my favorite Christian thrash is stuff that rarely gets discussed on here:  

Wraithkiller, Reckoned Dead, Immortal, Holy Sceptre, Have Mercy, Weeping Prophet, Embryo Chrysalis, Catscan, Join the Dead, Chained, Heavens Force, Viking, Aeturnus, Wickeds End, Avenger of Blood - first demo, Valor, Reborn, Demolish, Jesus Freaks, Minier, Deathless, etc.  

For me those bands would go above most bands on this poll.
You might be the only person other then myself that liked Aeturnus.
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Post by Pro-Zak Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:22 pm

Mortification never put out a pure anything album, they were always a hybrid metal band. Even Scrolls has elements of power, thrash and doom, even more so on PMA! With the release of Bloodworld they were more thrash for sure, and continued in that direction.
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Post by StevenCressler Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:23 pm

Pro-Zak wrote:Mortification never put out a pure anything album, they were always a hybrid metal band. Even Scrolls has elements of power, thrash and doom, even more so on PMA! With the release of Bloodworld they were more thrash for sure, and continued in that direction.
PMA is very doom-influenced
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Post by Pro-Zak Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:24 pm

Listen to Sympathy, that is pure death metal, which is why I don't like them.
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Post by Pethead Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:27 pm

Sympathy is tech/brutal death. Scrolls is OSDM.
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Post by Pro-Zak Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:37 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Pro-Zak wrote:Mortification never put out a pure anything album, they were always a hybrid metal band. Even Scrolls has elements of power, thrash and doom, even more so on PMA! With the release of Bloodworld they were more thrash for sure, and continued in that direction.
PMA is very doom-influenced
Absolutely! You can hear it to lesser extent on the two previous albums. Back when Steve posted here and in Firestream, I once told him that Mort should make a doom album. He said that they had plenty of slow songs. I tried to explain to him that slow does not necessarily make it doom. Latter day Mort, beginning with the last two songs on ToM, had slower songs that plodded along at a snails pace, but they were not doom. So what makes it doom? I know when I hear it, but not sure if I can put my finger on it. The overall vibe, the minor notes, the bending of notes, the triade...?
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Post by StevenCressler Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:40 pm

Pro-Zak wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Pro-Zak wrote:Mortification never put out a pure anything album, they were always a hybrid metal band. Even Scrolls has elements of power, thrash and doom, even more so on PMA! With the release of Bloodworld they were more thrash for sure, and continued in that direction.
PMA is very doom-influenced
Absolutely! You can hear it to lesser extent on the two previous albums. Back when Steve posted here and in Firestream, I once told him that Mort should make a doom album. He said that they had plenty of slow songs. I tried to explain to him that slow does not necessarily make it doom. Latter day Mort, beginning with the last two songs on ToM, had slower songs that plodded along at a snails pace, but they were not doom. So what makes it doom? I know when I hear it, but not sure if I can put my finger on it. The overall vibe, the minor notes, the bending of notes, the triade...?
There's also that doom is very thich and heavy
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Post by Temple of Blood Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:44 pm

Pethead wrote:
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Temple of Blood wrote:No Betrayal on this list.  No Seventh Angel, Temple of Blood, Ultimatum, Adorned Graves, Consecrator, Detritus, Step Cousin, Living Sacrifice, Hating Evil, etc etc, etc.  But Theocracy made the cut.

I heard Temple Of Blood considers themselves more of a Christian-friendly, post-thrash metal band these days.  Not sure if they belong on this list.   Razz Twisted Evil
They saw Believer’s interview and said, “how BRAVE.”

STUNNING and BRAVE!
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Post by Temple of Blood Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:45 pm

mothy wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:A lot of my favorite Christian thrash is stuff that rarely gets discussed on here:  

Wraithkiller, Reckoned Dead, Immortal, Holy Sceptre, Have Mercy, Weeping Prophet, Embryo Chrysalis, Catscan, Join the Dead, Chained, Heavens Force, Viking, Aeturnus, Wickeds End, Avenger of Blood - first demo, Valor, Reborn, Demolish, Jesus Freaks, Minier, Deathless, etc.  

For me those bands would go above most bands on this poll.
You might be the only person other then myself that liked Aeturnus.

That's a shame.  I don't know why.

I really don't know why more bands in that list above don't get more love, like Heavens Force.
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Post by Airola Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:02 pm

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Temple of Blood wrote:How many THRASH albums does Tourniquet have?

Stop the Bleeding is thrash/speed/heavy hybrid.

Psycho Surgery is thrash.

Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance is thrash.

Vanishing Lessons is groove with a hint of "thrash influence".

Carry the Wounded is hard rock / soft rock.

The new tracks in The Collected Works are thrash.

Crawl to China is hard rock with a bit of punk and grunge influence.

The new track in Acoustic Archives is thrash.

Microscopic View of a Telescopic Realm, Where Moth and Rust Destroy and Antiseptic Bloodbath are thrash with songs going to different subgenres here and there, often during the songs.

Gazing at Medusa is the other way around, being different subgenres but going to thrash here and there.

The last new bonus track is drone ambient doom.



I would say Tourniquet has 6 thrash albums, plus two compilation albums have three additional thrash tracks. Two of them are "pure" thrash (with a non-thrash track here and there), three if you count Stop the Bleeding. Three are genre hybrids based on thrash.

I think the later albums would not have thrash as their primary genre, but rather progressive metal.  Thrash would be secondary IMHO.

What is progressive metal though?
I think every subgenre can be progressive. But progressive metal in itself doesn't really tell us anything about the style of the music. Progressive metal could easily sound like death metal or power metal or black metal.

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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:05 pm

That's true. Prog just kinda tells us that they have multiple parts per song
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Post by Temple of Blood Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:07 pm

It's music that cares more about showing off how great they can play than rocking/thrashing.  Which is why I think their primary genre of their last several albums is prog and not thrash.

There's definitely a whole lot more noodling than rocking going on, I think we should all be able to agree on that.
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Post by seth Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:08 pm

Airola wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Airola wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:How many THRASH albums does Tourniquet have?

Stop the Bleeding is thrash/speed/heavy hybrid.

Psycho Surgery is thrash.

Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance is thrash.

Vanishing Lessons is groove with a hint of "thrash influence".

Carry the Wounded is hard rock / soft rock.

The new tracks in The Collected Works are thrash.

Crawl to China is hard rock with a bit of punk and grunge influence.

The new track in Acoustic Archives is thrash.

Microscopic View of a Telescopic Realm, Where Moth and Rust Destroy and Antiseptic Bloodbath are thrash with songs going to different subgenres here and there, often during the songs.

Gazing at Medusa is the other way around, being different subgenres but going to thrash here and there.

The last new bonus track is drone ambient doom.



I would say Tourniquet has 6 thrash albums, plus two compilation albums have three additional thrash tracks. Two of them are "pure" thrash (with a non-thrash track here and there), three if you count Stop the Bleeding. Three are genre hybrids based on thrash.

I think the later albums would not have thrash as their primary genre, but rather progressive metal.  Thrash would be secondary IMHO.

What is progressive metal though?
I think every subgenre can be progressive. But progressive metal in itself doesn't really tell us anything about the style of the music. Progressive metal could easily sound like death metal or power metal or black metal.
I’ve always thought of prog-anything (rock, metal, etc) as music with more highly complex song structure than is typical of the base genre
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:10 pm

That's correct. ...And Justice For All - Metallica is Prog-Thrash, Theocracy is Prog-Power. Prog just tells you that the songs are complex and usually longer and have multiple parts.
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