Tim Gaines - Is he out of Stryper?

Just having a discussion.  We don't have to agree on everything to be brothers, but perhaps this discussion belongs in another forum.

I'm not going to lock this thread (yet)... but I think it's going to be best if we follow Adam's lead here and cease discussing just what is the proper punishment for adultery and such.  If you want to start another thread, that's fine but keep it civil (as folks have been doing here).  Also, this thread is teetering on straight-up gossip of Tim which is no good either.  Let's be "above reproach" here.

I will only say LET HIM WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.

I was hoping this thread would not get into discussions of Tim's personal life, though he has publicly announced his new marriage. Anything else is conjecture.

In view of no recent announcements from the Stryper camp I guess I'll just wait and see what happens with the lineup.

As an interesting aside most Biblical Scholars believe that John 7:53-8:11 is a later addition and was not in the original Gospel of John. Yet is a popular passage for preaching.

Erasmus wrote:
As an interesting aside most Biblical Scholars believe that John 7:53-8:11 is a later addition and was not in the original Gospel of John. Yet is a popular passage for preaching.

True. The earliest manuscripts do not contain that passage.

....for those who would like a little more info and direction to go for further investigation...

.....I'm sorry here is a fuller version ( not inspired by Muslim propaganda ).

......oh.....and carry on with the Christian metal gossip.

I'll now take it as a given that Tim is no longer a member of Stryper as he has been removed as a band member on the official Stryper website.

Interesting, wonder who they will get. I don't think they will use Tracie, probably someone different. Or hopefully Tim will be back.

Ok, so I asked a friend about it who is a huge fan. He said Tim was NOT kicked out but that his new wife doesn't want him to be in the band. She posted an offensive picture on FB (I'm not on FB so I don't have access to it but my friend sent a screenshot of it). Was completely uncalled for (not my friend sending it to me but her posting it).

Well I'm sorry he's gone. Stryper is not the same without him.

MikeInFla wrote:Ok, so I asked a friend about it who is a huge fan. He said Tim was NOT kicked out but that his new wife doesn't want him to be in the band. She posted an offensive picture on FB (I'm not on FB so I don't have access to it but my friend sent a screenshot of it). Was completely uncalled for (not my friend sending it to me but her posting it).

Here is the only publicly available photo on her Facebook page. She posted it yesterday afternoon. I have no idea who the singer is.

timekeeper wrote:http://sleazeroxx.com/bassist-timothy-gaines-reaffirms-that-he-has-not-quit-stryper/

A lot can happen in 8 days.

I'll state it again, I'll miss him if he's gone. Stryper is not the same without him.

"Stryper is not the same without him."

I completely agree.  

I think that singer in the pic is Bret Kaiser (Madam X).

A new post from Michael's FB page:

"I'm not here to judge anyone. I'm a sinner and I have my own issues to deal with. Although I may be opinionated and vocal, I always do my best to be honorable and respectful. I want ALL of you to know (fans and friends) how important you are to me.
It's not easy leading a band and it's especially not easy leading a ministry. We've been ministering to people for a very long time so yes, we are a ministry every bit as much as we are a rock band.
I spend a lot of time on Social Media to keep you all informed, to ask your opinions (they mean a lot!) and to include you in everything that I/we do. Why? Because as a fan myself and someone who has worked very hard to get to this point, I understand the importance of being there for you just as you've been there for me. We all love music and that's what brings us together but more importantly, I/we really want to make a difference in this world by sharing Gods love and message to the world with music.
It's never been about the drama nor will it ever be. I just want to make a difference and enjoy every moment of this short life that I have. I'm asking all fans to pray for the band and to put aside any hearsay and to rise above the negative and share and spread the positive.
I love you guys and I always will. Thank you all for your support and for standing with me/us for 33 years.
Onward and upward,"
Michael

New Creation wrote:

MikeInFla wrote:Ok, so I asked a friend about it who is a huge fan. He said Tim was NOT kicked out but that his new wife doesn't want him to be in the band. She posted an offensive picture on FB (I'm not on FB so I don't have access to it but my friend sent a screenshot of it). Was completely uncalled for (not my friend sending it to me but her posting it).

Here is the only publicly available photo on her Facebook page. She posted it yesterday afternoon. I have no idea who the singer is.

timekeeper wrote:http://sleazeroxx.com/bassist-timothy-gaines-reaffirms-that-he-has-not-quit-stryper/

A lot can happen in 8 days.

I'll state it again, I'll miss him if he's gone. Stryper is not the same without him.

Well, the photo I saw posted by Brandee Gaines was a photo of the Jonestown massacre and said it was "actual footage of Stryper fans who drank the Kool-Aid". Looks like it was posted in the Timothy Gaines Fan Club.

Him being removed from the Stryper website speaks volumes.

I don't mean this to be offensive, but I don't think Stryper will miss a beat without Tim. That style of music requires a bass player that is competent. If they get a decent bassist no one will know the difference. This is not to disparage Tim. It's just that with Stryper's style the bass needs to be there but there's no flair in the bass work at all. It's why Tim could not record THWTD and IGWT and no one cared.

Follower of Jesus wrote:I don't mean this to be offensive, but I don't think Stryper will miss a beat without Tim. That style of music requires a bass player that is competent. If they get a decent bassist no one will know the difference. This is not to disparage Tim. It's just that with Stryper's style the bass needs to be there but there's no flair in the bass work at all. It's why Tim could not record THWTD and IGWT and no one cared.

You mean he wasn't on those releases!? 



Joe    

Erasmus wrote:I'll now take it as a given that Tim is no longer a member of Stryper as he has been removed as a band member on the official Stryper website.

Hmm... I wonder if the band will accept suggestions for a replacement.

Choice #1 for me: Ronnie König of Signum Regis.

BearDad wrote:

Follower of Jesus wrote:I don't mean this to be offensive, but I don't think Stryper will miss a beat without Tim. That style of music requires a bass player that is competent. If they get a decent bassist no one will know the difference. This is not to disparage Tim. It's just that with Stryper's style the bass needs to be there but there's no flair in the bass work at all. It's why Tim could not record THWTD and IGWT and no one cared.

You mean he wasn't on those releases!? 



Joe    

Nope, he didn't play on them. Brad Cobb played bass for those releases.

MikeInFla wrote:

BearDad wrote:

Follower of Jesus wrote:I don't mean this to be offensive, but I don't think Stryper will miss a beat without Tim. That style of music requires a bass player that is competent. If they get a decent bassist no one will know the difference. This is not to disparage Tim. It's just that with Stryper's style the bass needs to be there but there's no flair in the bass work at all. It's why Tim could not record THWTD and IGWT and no one cared.

You mean he wasn't on those releases!? 



Joe    

Nope, he didn't play on them. Brad Cobb played bass for those releases.

Sorry, Dude, but I think this meme is fitting here:



Thus, my "Joe  " bit at the end.

Is he out? Is he still in the band? Why it's so difficult for Stryper to put out an official statement about Tim?
They need to write more books for us in the future, these are pretty interesting times

As FoJ, I respectfully think he wouldn't be so missed. I don't really understand all the buzz about it.
In regards to the band, they really should make an official announcement. I mean, is Tim deciding about quitting the band or not? Just say it.

BearDad wrote:

MikeInFla wrote:

BearDad wrote:

Follower of Jesus wrote:I don't mean this to be offensive, but I don't think Stryper will miss a beat without Tim. That style of music requires a bass player that is competent. If they get a decent bassist no one will know the difference. This is not to disparage Tim. It's just that with Stryper's style the bass needs to be there but there's no flair in the bass work at all. It's why Tim could not record THWTD and IGWT and no one cared.

You mean he wasn't on those releases!? 



Joe    

Nope, he didn't play on them. Brad Cobb played bass for those releases.

Sorry, Dude, but I think this meme is fitting here:



Thus, my "Joe  " bit at the end.

Yep! Flew right over my head lol!! 

Maybe Tim has never really been in the band and is just a figment of our imagination. Or maybe like Nikki Sixx, he was replaced with a doppelganger and is living a quiet life as hermit in Arkansas. I would just like to add those into the other unsubstantiated ideas floating in this thread.