Tim Gaines - Is he out of Stryper?

Having read mixed messages over the last few months, is Tim out of Stryper?

I don't want to discuss his personal issues, would just like to know. Tim has stated clearly that he has no intention of leaving Stryper, however the messages coming from Stryper band themselves have been rather vague.

Would like to see this work out for the best for all the band members.

Huh.  Guess I hadn't heard anything either way.  I hope not, I always liked Tim in the band.


Arttie

A current thread on their facebook has someone saying they heard Sean McNabb played on the album. Stryper's response is "Sean is an amazing person and an excellent player." Couple that with the term "revised" at the beginning of the thread seems to say that these things are true.

A few months ago on his public Facebook page Tim said something like "See you on the road with Stryper in 2018."  I can't recall exactly but I also seem to remember Michael saying recently that Stryper is Michael/Robert/Oz/Tim.  Until I see otherwise I'll assume he's still in the band.

Don't know for sure but he's acting pretty crazy with some of his public rants. I can see why they'd be leery.

I thought they were going to take a break until some things got worked out, but a recent post I read seemed to contradict that. If they go with tradition, they'll record without him and then tour with him.

Yeah, Tim not recording isn't new, at least to my understanding. (Not like I've been in studio with them...)

McNabb is playing with someone else right now, anyway.

Arttie

http://sleazeroxx.com/stryper-bassist-timothy-gaines-lashes-out-at-unsolicited-personal-attacks/

I wouldn't play with these clowns either. Why Stryper decided to make Tim's personal life public is beyond me.

Stryper always seems to have a bit of drama surrounding it

Yeah, there's a history of Tim being in and out.  Until there is some kind of official announcement, I'd perhaps call it more of a "leave" than being out of the band.

He had an extra-marital affair and was given a 'time-out', if you will.

hellig wrote:He had an extra-marital affair and was given a 'time-out', if you will.

If this is truth, then I am very disappointed. Family is the primary building block of our society and when it is destroyed by acts like this, we all fall down.

If this is false or only rumor, then I'm disappointed in the Body of Christ for allowing it to be spread.

The only thing I've seen, is that he got remarried.

Whatever the case is in Tim's life, it's his private thing. And I'm gonna respect that.

Markus1987 wrote:Whatever the case is in Tim's life, it's his private thing. And I'm gonna respect that.

When marriage vows are made, they are PUBLIC, not private. If the marriage vows were broken, then it should be a public thing, not private.

Likewise, if the marriage vows remained intact, then those who have publicly accused him should be openly judged. This is basic 1 Corinthians 6:1-4 stuff.

New Creation wrote:

Markus1987 wrote:Whatever the case is in Tim's life, it's his private thing. And I'm gonna respect that.

When marriage vows are made, they are PUBLIC, not private. If the marriage vows were broken, then it should be a public thing, not private.

Likewise, if the marriage vows remained intact, then those who have publicly accused him should be openly judged. This is basic 1 Corinthians 6:1-4 stuff.

Whether he has done something he ought not to do or whether he hasn't, it remains a private deal.  Unless you are involved directly with his life, then making it public only drags him down further.  He needs time to heal, and having all the details dragged out over the whole Internet is just going to slow that process down.

How public does it need to be if he broke his vows?  Does he owe you or I an explanation?  No.  Are there other people who know about this and are working to help him deal with it within the Christian faith?  Yes!  We weren't invited to that because it truly has nothing to do with us.  We should quietly lift him up in prayer and trust that the Lord knows what Tim needs.  Dragging the details out in a public forum will just make it worse for Tim, Stryper, their families, their churches, etc.  Give the man time away from the spotlight to get his house in order.

alldatndensum wrote:

New Creation wrote:

Markus1987 wrote:Whatever the case is in Tim's life, it's his private thing. And I'm gonna respect that.

When marriage vows are made, they are PUBLIC, not private. If the marriage vows were broken, then it should be a public thing, not private.

Likewise, if the marriage vows remained intact, then those who have publicly accused him should be openly judged. This is basic 1 Corinthians 6:1-4 stuff.

Whether he has done something he ought not to do or whether he hasn't, it remains a private deal.  Unless you are involved directly with his life, then making it public only drags him down further.  He needs time to heal, and having all the details dragged out over the whole Internet is just going to slow that process down.

How public does it need to be if he broke his vows?  Does he owe you or I an explanation?  No.  Are there other people who know about this and are working to help him deal with it within the Christian faith?  Yes!  We weren't invited to that because it truly has nothing to do with us.  We should quietly lift him up in prayer and trust that the Lord knows what Tim needs.  Dragging the details out in a public forum will just make it worse for Tim, Stryper, their families, their churches, etc.  Give the man time away from the spotlight to get his house in order.

God commanded for adulterers to be put to death, so He intended for it to be very public. America is wrong for abandoning that law.

Seems Jesus had a different view in John 8 when He spoke to those wanting to murder/stone for adultery.

timekeeper wrote:Seems Jesus had a different view when In John 8 when He spoke to those wanting to murder for adultery.

That was only because the accusers wanted to expose the woman. If they had dragged out the man as well, it would have been a different story.

I don't believe that's the message the scripture is sending, but rather a message of grace from the Savior.

New Creation wrote:

alldatndensum wrote:

New Creation wrote:
When marriage vows are made, they are PUBLIC, not private. If the marriage vows were broken, then it should be a public thing, not private.

Likewise, if the marriage vows remained intact, then those who have publicly accused him should be openly judged. This is basic 1 Corinthians 6:1-4 stuff.

Whether he has done something he ought not to do or whether he hasn't, it remains a private deal.  Unless you are involved directly with his life, then making it public only drags him down further.  He needs time to heal, and having all the details dragged out over the whole Internet is just going to slow that process down.

How public does it need to be if he broke his vows?  Does he owe you or I an explanation?  No.  Are there other people who know about this and are working to help him deal with it within the Christian faith?  Yes!  We weren't invited to that because it truly has nothing to do with us.  We should quietly lift him up in prayer and trust that the Lord knows what Tim needs.  Dragging the details out in a public forum will just make it worse for Tim, Stryper, their families, their churches, etc.  Give the man time away from the spotlight to get his house in order.

God commanded for adulterers to be put to death, so He intended for it to be very public. America is wrong for abandoning that law.

This sounds as if you are suggesting America should be imposing the death penalty for adultery.  That would curb our population substantially. 

timekeeper wrote:I don't believe that's the message the scripture is sending, but rather a message of grace from the Savior.

And if that is correct, then it is true, He can apply His mercy to whatever situation He desires, just like he did for David and Gomer. However, the law still stands, and we are to abide by his criminal laws while on this earth. We do not get to pick and choose whom to have mercy on, only God can do that. These laws are put there for society to operate properly.

Right, we don't pick and choose whom to give grace/mercy to, just as Christ extends it to all, and we follow that example.

That universal grace is for salvation purposes. What we are talking about here is a criminal justice matter.

I'm stepping out of the thread now. Will not return.