James Hetfield vs. Jimmy P. Brown II

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Legitwafflez wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:Dude, when it came out, so many were saying it added pop elements. Not like it's Journey or anything but it's definitely lighter than what they'd been doing.

Really? Sad But True and The God That Failed are some of their heaviest songs. The Struggle Within, Wherever I May Roam, Holier Than Thou. They are just as heavy as what came before.

Glad some kid is here to set everyone else straight. If you think Sad But True is as heavy as the early stuff I don't know what to tell you.

Ah, leave the kid alone at least he's a metalhead and willing to give the old stuff a try. A lot of young people who started with whatever new band just view anything before 2010 as grandpa metal. Hats off to him

No. I refuse to be told from someone who just found out about vengeance rising today and mortification yesterday and Metallica two weeks ago, that I don't know what I am talking about when I lived though it. So no.

For your information I discovered Metallica two years ago, VR either 2 or 1 1/2 years ago. And Morty I've known about since I got into metal and don't care for that much.

yes that's what I mean by today, yesterday and two weeks ago.

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Legitwafflez wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:Dude, when it came out, so many were saying it added pop elements. Not like it's Journey or anything but it's definitely lighter than what they'd been doing.

Really? Sad But True and The God That Failed are some of their heaviest songs. The Struggle Within, Wherever I May Roam, Holier Than Thou. They are just as heavy as what came before.

Glad some kid is here to set everyone else straight. If you think Sad But True is as heavy as the early stuff I don't know what to tell you.

Ah, leave the kid alone at least he's a metalhead and willing to give the old stuff a try. A lot of young people who started with whatever new band just view anything before 2010 as grandpa metal. Hats off to him

No. I refuse to be told from someone who just found out about vengeance rising today and mortification yesterday and Metallica two weeks ago, that I don't know what I am talking about when I lived though it. So no.

For your information I discovered Metallica two years ago, VR either 2 or 1 1/2 years ago. And Morty I've known about since I got into metal and don't care for that much.

yes that's what I mean by today, yesterday and two weeks ago.

I know it's mainly a joke. I know more about metal than a lot of other people that got into metal the same time I did. Partially because I study it a lot because I play guitar.

seth wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

Now you know how I feel about Nirvana

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Legitwafflez wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:Dude, when it came out, so many were saying it added pop elements. Not like it's Journey or anything but it's definitely lighter than what they'd been doing.

Really? Sad But True and The God That Failed are some of their heaviest songs. The Struggle Within, Wherever I May Roam, Holier Than Thou. They are just as heavy as what came before.

Glad some kid is here to set everyone else straight. If you think Sad But True is as heavy as the early stuff I don't know what to tell you.

Ah, leave the kid alone at least he's a metalhead and willing to give the old stuff a try. A lot of young people who started with whatever new band just view anything before 2010 as grandpa metal. Hats off to him

No. I refuse to be told from someone who just found out about vengeance rising today and mortification yesterday and Metallica two weeks ago, that I don't know what I am talking about when I lived though it. So no.

For your information I discovered Metallica two years ago, VR either 2 or 1 1/2 years ago. And Morty I've known about since I got into metal and don't care for that much.

yes that's what I mean by today, yesterday and two weeks ago.

I know it's mainly a joke. I know more about metal than a lot of other people that got into metal the same time I did. Partially because I study it a lot because I play guitar.

I'm sure you do and love it with a passion as a I can hear through your playing (which is good by the way). I've played guitar for years in all sorts of bands, and been into metal since forever (just about) and lived through most of it when it happened. I am just saying perhaps listen a little bit, that's all.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

It's swedish death metal mixed with progressive metal with 8-string guitars. Here's a good Christian album that is the same genre but different from Meshuggah that you may like better.  https://open.spotify.com/album/6XouRuwHDF9WOKZLK4Qyny?si=nGZHp0waSsKBgMCTGnLVQQ

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

It's swedish death metal mixed with progressive metal with 8-string guitars. Here's a good Christian album that is the same genre but different from Meshuggah that you may like better.  https://open.spotify.com/album/6XouRuwHDF9WOKZLK4Qyny?si=nGZHp0waSsKBgMCTGnLVQQ

Thanks but I'm not signed up with spotify

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Legitwafflez wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:Dude, when it came out, so many were saying it added pop elements. Not like it's Journey or anything but it's definitely lighter than what they'd been doing.

Really? Sad But True and The God That Failed are some of their heaviest songs. The Struggle Within, Wherever I May Roam, Holier Than Thou. They are just as heavy as what came before.

Glad some kid is here to set everyone else straight. If you think Sad But True is as heavy as the early stuff I don't know what to tell you.

Ah, leave the kid alone at least he's a metalhead and willing to give the old stuff a try. A lot of young people who started with whatever new band just view anything before 2010 as grandpa metal. Hats off to him

No. I refuse to be told from someone who just found out about vengeance rising today and mortification yesterday and Metallica two weeks ago, that I don't know what I am talking about when I lived though it. So no.

For your information I discovered Metallica two years ago, VR either 2 or 1 1/2 years ago. And Morty I've known about since I got into metal and don't care for that much.

yes that's what I mean by today, yesterday and two weeks ago.

I know it's mainly a joke. I know more about metal than a lot of other people that got into metal the same time I did. Partially because I study it a lot because I play guitar.

I'm sure you do and love it with a passion as a I can hear through your playing (which is good by the way). I've played guitar for years in all sorts of bands, and been into metal since forever (just about) and lived through most of it when it happened. I am just saying perhaps listen a little bit, that's all.

The reason I didn't get into metal sooner is because I only have one family member that likes metal... and he's my age. My dad never went heavier than P.O.D. All my dad's friends who like metal think it's awesome/hilarious that his son loves metal.

Dustofyears wrote:
It is awesome! In a world full of junk music, you picked one of the best genres ever. Never mind me about Meshuggah that's just personal taste, you enjoy what you enjoy. Hope to see you in a band some day

Legitwafflez wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

I bought JF - SU (CD) because it's not on spotify.

This is why bands shouldn't put their full albums on YouTube, Spotify/etc.

A single purchase is worth thousands and thousands of streams.

I get it, personally buying CDs to collect dust is not worth it for me or finding the space. I try to support by going to concerts or buying a T-shirt. I purchased tshirts from Crimson Moonlight and Drottnar at Audiofeed a few years ago I seen the struggle firsthand as these guys were barely able to get the money to fly back home. They'll unfortunately probably never be able to return to the US again.

StevenCressler wrote:

Black Rider wrote:It's not even the best Metallica album.

I honestly don't understand anyone putting Ride above Master and Justice... RtL is amazing of course, but it seems like the other two have everything it does but better...

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

It's swedish death metal mixed with progressive metal with 8-string guitars. Here's a good Christian album that is the same genre but different from Meshuggah that you may like better.  https://open.spotify.com/album/6XouRuwHDF9WOKZLK4Qyny?si=nGZHp0waSsKBgMCTGnLVQQ

Thanks but I'm not signed up with spotify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWyU-obsoCM 

Temple of Blood wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Black Rider wrote:It's not even the best Metallica album.

I honestly don't understand anyone putting Ride above Master and Justice... RtL is amazing of course, but it seems like the other two have everything it does but better...

Ride was more innovative.

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

It's swedish death metal mixed with progressive metal with 8-string guitars. Here's a good Christian album that is the same genre but different from Meshuggah that you may like better.  https://open.spotify.com/album/6XouRuwHDF9WOKZLK4Qyny?si=nGZHp0waSsKBgMCTGnLVQQ

Thanks but I'm not signed up with spotify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWyU-obsoCM 

 I'm just into that modern sound, but it's not bad at all, it's still metal.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:
It is awesome! In a world full of junk music, you picked one of the best genres ever. Never mind me about Meshuggah that's just personal taste, you enjoy what you enjoy. Hope to see you in a band some day

I hope to see me in a band as well! The hard part is finding people. I'm most worried about a bass player and a singer.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Black Rider wrote:It's not even the best Metallica album.

I honestly don't understand anyone putting Ride above Master and Justice... RtL is amazing of course, but it seems like the other two have everything it does but better...

Ride was more innovative.

Eh... RTL was the album that prog influences started popping up then MOP started embracing them more and AJFA fully embraced them. RTL is the closest album to KEA and the smallest jump in sound difference (not counting the jump from L to RL) AJFA was the most innovative of the first four imo.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

It's swedish death metal mixed with progressive metal with 8-string guitars. Here's a good Christian album that is the same genre but different from Meshuggah that you may like better.  https://open.spotify.com/album/6XouRuwHDF9WOKZLK4Qyny?si=nGZHp0waSsKBgMCTGnLVQQ

Thanks but I'm not signed up with spotify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWyU-obsoCM 

 I'm just into that modern sound, but it's not bad at all, it's still metal.

Did you mean "not into"?

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

It's swedish death metal mixed with progressive metal with 8-string guitars. Here's a good Christian album that is the same genre but different from Meshuggah that you may like better.  https://open.spotify.com/album/6XouRuwHDF9WOKZLK4Qyny?si=nGZHp0waSsKBgMCTGnLVQQ

Thanks but I'm not signed up with spotify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWyU-obsoCM 

 I'm just into that modern sound, but it's not bad at all, it's still metal.

Did you mean "not into"?

Yeah. I need slow my typing down lolz. I'm kind of stuck in the past and just listen to albums I grew up with mostly. The new metal stuff, that doesn't quite grip me...just getting old guess.

Legitwafflez wrote:

seth wrote: Black album was definitely more “radio friendly” than what came before, but comparing it to Nirvana is just unfair

I wasn't comparing them apples to apples but they fit in with the grunge scene as they slowed down and wrote more sing a long type songs

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:No I thought everyone else loved them and I was the only one that hates them. There's nothing in their music at all.

It's swedish death metal mixed with progressive metal with 8-string guitars. Here's a good Christian album that is the same genre but different from Meshuggah that you may like better.  https://open.spotify.com/album/6XouRuwHDF9WOKZLK4Qyny?si=nGZHp0waSsKBgMCTGnLVQQ

Thanks but I'm not signed up with spotify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWyU-obsoCM 

 I'm just into that modern sound, but it's not bad at all, it's still metal.

Did you mean "not into"?

Yeah. I need slow my typing down lolz. I'm kind of stuck in the past and just listen to albums I grew up with mostly. The new metal stuff, that doesn't quite grip me...just getting old guess.

I understand that. Most older Metalheads are like that. I like multiple metal genres most older guys hate (easycore, metalcore(not as much, one band really), djent) though thrash will always be my favorite subgenre.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:Dude, when it came out, so many were saying it added pop elements. Not like it's Journey or anything but it's definitely lighter than what they'd been doing.

Really? Sad But True and The God That Failed are some of their heaviest songs. The Struggle Within, Wherever I May Roam, Holier Than Thou. They are just as heavy as what came before.

Glad some kid is here to set everyone else straight. If you think Sad But True is as heavy as the early stuff I don't know what to tell you.

Sad But True is their second heaviest song behind TTTSNB. It's not opinion it's fact.

Hahahaha

Fine, what do you think are their two heaviest songs? Also hate me or not, St. Anger is their heaviest album overall.

StevenCressler wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

Black Rider wrote:Dude, when it came out, so many were saying it added pop elements. Not like it's Journey or anything but it's definitely lighter than what they'd been doing.

Really? Sad But True and The God That Failed are some of their heaviest songs. The Struggle Within, Wherever I May Roam, Holier Than Thou. They are just as heavy as what came before.

Glad some kid is here to set everyone else straight. If you think Sad But True is as heavy as the early stuff I don't know what to tell you.

Sad But True is their second heaviest song behind TTTSNB. It's not opinion it's fact.

Hahahaha

Fine, what do you think are their two heaviest songs? Also hate me or not, St. Anger is their heaviest album overall.

St. Anger is proof that being heavy doesn't make something good lol

Heavy doesn't mean down-tuned and slow. SBT and TTTSNB are up there, but idk... I'd argue for Dyer's eve, but that's more fast than heavy.