Hot takes.

Dustofyears wrote:Anyway you're a thrash head to the core and till death do us part, sweet.

Well, I am too, but I probably like nu-metal more than anyone else on here.

As much as I love modern Stryper, I actually like the production on SuC, THwtD, IGWT, and AtL more than the production on the recent albums. IGWT and AtL are the best sounding Stryper albums.

StevenCressler wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Anyway you're a thrash head to the core and till death do us part, sweet.

Well, I am too, but I probably like nu-metal more than anyone else on here.

I love me some thrash too when the mood fits. I like all kinds of metal but it comes down to a handful of bands from each genre of metal I always go back to. Very very selective and more of a favorite albums person than a favorite bands person.

I suspect Korn was also influenced a bit by RATM.

Pethead wrote:As much as I love modern Stryper, I actually like the production on SuC, THwtD, IGWT, and AtL more than the production on the recent albums. IGWT and AtL are the best sounding Stryper albums.

Old-Man Hot Take Request:


Less initials! I can't decipher what albums are being referenced.    

Soldiers under Command
To Hell with the Devil
In God We Trust
Against the Law

Pethead wrote:Soldiers under Command
To Hell with the Devil
In God We Trust
Against the Law

Duh! 

It just gives my eyes a while to decipher. Thanks!  

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Pethead wrote:Soldiers under Command
To Hell with the Devil
In God We Trust
Against the Law

Duh! 

It just gives my eyes a while to decipher. Thanks!  

I rank the Stryper albums thusly

11. A
10. Y
9. M
8. S
7. H
6. G
5. E
4. R
3. F
2. N
1. GD

You’ve got R really high on your list.

Pethead wrote:You’ve got R really high on your list.

Yeah, I like the riffs on that album a lot. I think it's very underrated.

Temple of Blood wrote:I suspect Korn was also influenced a bit by RATM.

Maybe it's not too far removed. FNM and rage hmm. Might look up and see what their influences are if I can find something.

Temple of Blood wrote:The part of heaviness that most don't understand is that some of it comes from just which notes are chosen, the scales, the intervals, etc.  How often do you hear anyone talk about that?

I agree...

This makes me think of the self titled King's X record. In particular, "What I Know About Love".
The first thing I thought back in the day when Doug's bass line started was "this is HEAVY"...

It kind of colored my view of the whole record because I always think of it as being heavy...

crucifyd wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:The part of heaviness that most don't understand is that some of it comes from just which notes are chosen, the scales, the intervals, etc.  How often do you hear anyone talk about that?

I agree...

This makes me think of the self titled King's X record. In particular, "What I Know About Love".
The first thing I thought back in the day when Doug's bass line started was "this is HEAVY"...

I kind of colored my view of the whole record because I always think of it as being heavy...

same. that was the first Kings X record I heard by complete accident. It was a cassette on my friends floor and the cover caught my eye. It was either Junior's gone wild or world around me that was the first song I heard from them. And I was mesmerized and amazed by what I heard. A heavy darker Beatles was my initial impression of the sound.

My first was FHL and it did nothing for me. Then I heard Gretchen and loved it. I like FHL now, though.

^yeah…my first King’s X was the s/t. When I heard "The World Around Me” I was taken in by that rollicking bass..lol..not sure how else to explain it but it was fast and heavy and the songs got better and better as I listened through the album. Gretchen and Out of The Silent Planet came next for me and I was hooked.

Saint is better than Judas Priest and writes better songs with more memorable hooks and choruses.

The s/t KX album was also my first exposure to them. I remember the album getting pretty good advertising and some regular rotation on MTV for Black Flag. 

Lost in Germany is amazing! Ty’s guitar playing was so unique. His tones are great! Doug also was singing in his prime. Great album! Overall, I actually like the s/t better than the first two.

Dustofyears wrote:Saint is better than Judas Priest and writes better songs with more memorable hooks and choruses.

Honestly? I agree. Priest is obviously the OG, but I find Saint’s catalog more engaging overall. (Painkiller is a masterpiece, though).

Hot takes are fine… but I’d rather have some hot cakes!

Pethead wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Saint is better than Judas Priest and writes better songs with more memorable hooks and choruses.

Honestly? I agree. Priest is obviously the OG, but I find Saint’s catalog more engaging overall. (Painkiller is a masterpiece, though).

Yep honestly that's what I think. I was going to mention Painkiller. That is a killer metal tune. If only they did more of that.

Dustofyears wrote:

Pethead wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Saint is better than Judas Priest and writes better songs with more memorable hooks and choruses.

Honestly? I agree. Priest is obviously the OG, but I find Saint’s catalog more engaging overall. (Painkiller is a masterpiece, though).

Yep honestly that's what I think. I was going to mention Painkiller. That is a killer metal tune. If only they did more of that.

Probably top 10 when it comes to well-known recognizable metal riffs.

Dustofyears wrote:

Pethead wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Saint is better than Judas Priest and writes better songs with more memorable hooks and choruses.

Honestly? I agree. Priest is obviously the OG, but I find Saint’s catalog more engaging overall. (Painkiller is a masterpiece, though).

Yep honestly that's what I think. I was going to mention Painkiller. That is a killer metal tune. If only they did more of that.

Agree, Painkiller is a real banger but most other Priest songs I’ve heard are pretty mid tier

I love Painkiller! 

It’s my definition of what heavy metal is. Every song is memorable and different from the previous song.

My favorites…

Painkiller
Metal Meltdown 
Between the Hammer and the Anvil
Night Crawler
One Shot at Glory

TZ75 wrote:I love Painkiller! 

It’s my definition of what heavy metal is. Every song is memorable and different from the previous song.

My favorites…

Painkiller
Metal Meltdown 
Between the Hammer and the Anvil
Night Crawler
One Shot at Glory

Replace One Shot At Glory with A Touch Of Evil and that's my list as well.

Saint is awesome but doesn't have an album as good as Painkiller or Screaming for Vengeance.