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Post by Pethead Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:50 am

I still love the first 3 albums. I just wish they’d come right out and say where they are now with respect to their worldview(s) rather than what seems to be rewriting their history with respect to the boldly Christian lyrics—lyrics that were more thoughtful than a lot of other Christian metal bands. It’s not as if I’ll throw out the first 3 regardless—I’m spinning Extraction as I write this—and I’ll be willing to give new stuff a chance even if it’s not from the same worldview. I’m just not a fan of what seems to be historical revision. (Obviously, I can’t judge their intent).
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Post by petrafan007 Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:49 pm

HA! Forgive my cynicism, but I'll believe it when they update their facebook page for the first time in over 5 years....

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Post by TZ75 Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:08 pm

I love the Extraction album! 

Obscure was good, but they lost me on Dimensions.
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Post by MagnusPrime Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:20 pm

I loved the first 2 albums.

Dimensions was great but it didn't get near as many spins as the first 2.

I always loved their guitar tones back then as well. Super-crunchy!

I've heard the newer stuff, but can't really get into it like I did their early work. They lost that signature guitar sound too! Mad 1
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Post by average joe Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:40 pm

Lex Metalis wrote:(from Matthew - Bombworks/Retroactive Records)

Friends, we are getting ready to make a big announcement about BELIEVER....really big....but we are looking for bonus tracks for the SANITY OBSCURE album. Live or otherwise. The Stop the Madness PSA is not an option. They need to be good.

“Big announcement…really big…”

They have decided to be a Christian band?

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Post by Raegoul Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:38 am

They started making alcohol free beer?
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Post by Black Rider Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:21 am

It's a slow year for Christian music when this gets so much discussion.
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Post by Pethead Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:51 am

It has been kinda slow. There have been many solid albums, but not many exceptional ones.
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Post by zelote Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:40 am

Could be nice a re-release of Sanity Obscure and Dimensions

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Post by Airola Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:32 pm

This Heaven's Metal magazine from 1993 has a cool interview of Believer.
Link here:
Heaven's Metal Magazine, Issue #42 by Heaven's Metal Magazine - Issuu

It kinda explains a bit why they nowadays make more ambiguous lyrics and don't talk about religion much at all. Even back in 1993, while they still were open about their faith, they felt it's not their job to preach on stage and they were heavily criticized for stopping the on-stage preaching, which ironically helped them to connect with non-religious people instead of only connecting with other Christians.

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Post by Lex Metalis Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:22 am

Update about the re-releases here
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Post by KaramKaram Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:21 am

Can't wait to get my hands on those rereleases. Never got the originals.
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Post by Deadinside Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:42 am

I want all 3 of the vinyl reissues, but they come at a terrible time for me to be dropping basically $120 on records. With Christmas right around the corner, I have to stay focused on the kiddos and not myself.  A new Believer re-release are coming, but the label needs some help... - Page 2 1f620  A new Believer re-release are coming, but the label needs some help... - Page 2 1f601

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Post by crucifyd Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:00 pm

I guess Kurt must have changed his mind about re-issues...
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Post by Lex Metalis Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:06 pm

Matt Hunt about S.O. re-release:

"We were going to have bonus tracks and then decided they were too terrible"
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Post by Deadinside Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:04 pm

Lex Metalis wrote:Matt Hunt about S.O. re-release:

"We were going to have bonus tracks and then decided they were too terrible"

They don't need bonus trucks. These albums are perfect as is.

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Post by MagnusPrime Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:15 pm

EFM: Purple logo, purple vinyl.

Dimensions: Blue logo, blue vinyl.

Sanity Obscure: Red logo, orange vinyl??
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Post by TZ75 Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:40 pm

Well I guess I’ll be getting the new reissues of Extraction and Sanity!

I’m still not much of a fan of Dimensions.
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Post by crucifyd Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:39 am

MagnusPrime wrote:EFM: Purple logo, purple vinyl.

Dimensions: Blue logo, blue vinyl.

Sanity Obscure: Red logo, orange vinyl??

NO black vinyl ???    Rolling Eyes
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Post by MagnusPrime Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:55 am

crucifyd wrote:
MagnusPrime wrote:EFM: Purple logo, purple vinyl.

Dimensions: Blue logo, blue vinyl.

Sanity Obscure: Red logo, orange vinyl??

NO black vinyl ???    Rolling Eyes

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Post by Follower of Jesus Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:45 am

I’d love to hear the remastered sound of Sanity Obscure, but I have no need for more CDs. I really wish they offered these digitally.
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Post by Deadinside Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:01 pm

I found the $
I'll be pre-ordering all 3 LPs the minute they go up!

🙂🙃

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Post by jaydeecrawson Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:08 pm

Just ordered 'em too!

Got the splatter variations.

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Post by Deadinside Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:49 pm

jaydeecrawson wrote:Just ordered 'em too!

Got the splatter variations.
Ditto!

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Post by TZ75 Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:49 pm

Just ordered the new reissues of Extraction and Sanity. I believe they will sound great just like the last run of reissues Ted/Tourniquet put out for the “Metal Icon” series.
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