Blues based metal / hard rock???

mothy wrote:Anything done by Bill Menchen.

Don’t Menchen it. 

Of coarse if you like the Danzig style of bluesy crooning, Randy Rose was a pretty good imitation.

I think this fits the bill perfectly! Hard rock/metal with some bluesy undertones. Comparable to Badlands or Jake E. Lee’s Red Dragon Cartel.

Yep, I';ve got the stuff by King James.

I have a few albums by Liberty N Justice but need to get more of them.

I had not heard Justin Murr passed on.  Maybe they could continue with guest singers which is how many of their songs are recorded.

I was just reading about him and apparently he died of that conevirus while up in coneteen... too bad churches don't teach about scriptural health and healing.

Just like deliverance from sin, health has been paid for by the Lord's death, burial, and resurrection... but it's not automatically applied to mankind.

Mankind must turn from their sin unto the Lord and put in to practice in their daily lives the promises the Lord has made in His Word.  Of course I understand that everyone wants to argue about all this so no need for me to talk about that in this thread.

Maybe there needs to be a thread on HOW to live free from the things the Lord has paid for His People to be free from.  James 1:22-25

Krich wrote:Yep, I';ve got the stuff by King James.

I have a few albums by Liberty N Justice but need to get more of them.

I had not heard Justin Murr passed on.  Maybe they could continue with guest singers which is how many of their songs are recorded.

I was just reading about him and apparently he died of that conevirus while up in coneteen... too bad churches don't teach about scriptural health and healing.

Just like deliverance from sin, health has been paid for by the Lord's death, burial, and resurrection... but it's not automatically applied to mankind.

Mankind must turn from their sin unto the Lord and put in to practice in their daily lives the promises the Lord has made in His Word.  Of course I understand that everyone wants to argue about all this so no need for me to talk about that in this thread.

Maybe there needs to be a thread on HOW to live free from the things the Lord has paid for His People to be free from.  James 1:22-25

So Justin died because he didn’t turn from his sin or have enough faith to be healed?

I didn't know the man.

What I do know is the Lord watches over His Word to perform it (Jeremiah 1:12)

That conevirus garbage tried coming in to my house and I took God's Word and forbid it to come in... but then again I have not been sick since the 80s.

The devil brings forth opportunities, but I pass them by!

He didn't have to die from this, and it's not God's fault or His Will for this to happen.

Dude, Paul could’ve used you to cure his thorn in the flesh! He must’ve lacked your faith.

The thorn in the flesh was a demon that satan sent to do his best to stop or slow down Paul from piecing the darkness with the true light of God's Word.

He got delivered from it and he grew in his walk with the Lord as he did with all the attacks of the devil:

2 Timothy 3:11
Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them ALL the Lord delivered me.

Besides, we are called to follow Jesus, not Paul.

Before Jesus willing laid down His Life (which was His mission, His calling)... the devil could NOT touch Him!

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sins not; but he that is begotten of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touche him not

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Krich wrote:The thorn in the flesh was a demon that satan sent to do his best to stop or slow down Paul from piecing the darkness with the true light of God's Word.

He got delivered from it and he grew in his walk with the Lord as he did with all the attacks of the devil:

2 Timothy 3:11
Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them ALL the Lord delivered me.

Besides, we are called to follow Jesus, not Paul.

Before Jesus willing laid down His Life (which was His mission, His calling)... the devil could NOT touch Him!

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sins not; but he that is begotten of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touche him not

How about wealth? Can I get a new BMW if I have enough faith? Cause that would be awesome.

I've heard of the first two, but haven't heard Riveting Truth, so I'll check them out. Thanks.

Pethead wrote:

Krich wrote:The thorn in the flesh was a demon that satan sent to do his best to stop or slow down Paul from piecing the darkness with the true light of God's Word.

He got delivered from it and he grew in his walk with the Lord as he did with all the attacks of the devil:

2 Timothy 3:11
Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them ALL the Lord delivered me.

Besides, we are called to follow Jesus, not Paul.

Before Jesus willing laid down His Life (which was His mission, His calling)... the devil could NOT touch Him!

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sins not; but he that is begotten of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touche him not

How about wealth? Can I get a new BMW if I have enough faith? Cause that would be awesome.

As long as your BMW is properly fitted with Jesus Fish bumper stickers, Crucifix rear-view-mirror chain and scented with holy scents.

Krich wrote:He didn't have to die from this, and it's not God's fault or His Will for this to happen.

is God not sovereign?

he would have died eventually...if we are healed of all illness why do we get old and die?

. wrote:How about wealth? Can I get a new BMW if I have enough faith? Cause that would be awesome.

God's Word teaches material wealth is tied to WORK, so no it's not magic like the TV preachers make it sound like if you give to their so-called ministry.

God's Word also gives warnings about material wealth comes with the possibility of deception

The Lord teaches that He will supply our need according to His riches in glory, Philippians 4:19
 (not according to conditions on earth)... but He also teaches if we don't work we shouldn't eat, 2 Thessalonians 3:10

True prosperity is walking in a right relationship with the Lord and has nothing to do with money or stuff... but mankind does need stuff to live in this world and the Lord is not opposed to His people having stuff

Unless of course the privilege is being abused

Krich wrote:The thorn in the flesh was a demon that satan sent to do his best to stop or slow down Paul from piecing the darkness with the true light of God's Word.

He got delivered from it and he grew in his walk with the Lord as he did with all the attacks of the devil:

2 Timothy 3:11
Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them ALL the Lord delivered me.

Besides, we are called to follow Jesus, not Paul.

Before Jesus willing laid down His Life (which was His mission, His calling)... the devil could NOT touch Him!

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sins not; but he that is begotten of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touche him not

Actually, it never said he was delivered, he says God told him His grace was sufficient for him.

. wrote:is God not sovereign?

Sure His is!  When God created man, He sovereignly decided to create man in His Own Image and gave unto man dominion (Genesis 1:26) which is where God gave is free will.

Man is free to decide to accept the Lord Jesus or reject the Lord Jesus.

The Lord is not going around killing people... unless they are evil and need to be removed from the earth, so the Lord was not the cause of or the reason this guy dies from that conevirus.

Here's a few scriptures to take very seriously and quit listening to religious organizations that have been heavily influenced by the enemy (falling away in the last day the Lord warned about.)


Proverbs 4:20-23  (see John 8:51, Proverbs 5:1,2, James 1:22… Most Christians don’t do this – BIG MISTAKE!)
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

Psalms 91:9,10   (see Luke 10:19, 1 John 2:6, James 4:7)
Because you have made the LORD, which is My refuge, even the most High, your habitation;
There shall no evil fall upon you, neither shall any plague come near your household.
(only applicable to those that have submitted their lives to the Lord, walking in the Spirit by allowing God's Word to remain IN them… have I made the Lord my habitation?  Am I living IN CHRIST by allowing Him to live in Me?)

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by Whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

James 5:14,15
Is any sick among you? (there shouldn’t be) let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.  (Unfortunately, it’s near impossible now to find elders that follow God’s Word that know how to pray the prayer of faith… so one MUST learn how to pray / receive directly from the Lord for themselves!... God never mentions calling a physician but instead says "the prayer of faith shall save the sick")

Exodus 15:26
If you will diligently listen to the voice of the LORD your God, and will do that which is right in His sight, and will give ear to His commandments, and keep all His statutes, I will not put (allow) any diseases upon you, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that heals you. (Walk in the Spirit – See Romans

Exodus 23:24-26
You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images  (cast down imaginations and every high thing, see 2 Corinthians 10:5)
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.

James 4:3
You ask, and receive not, because you ask wrongly, that you may use for your own fleshly desires.
*Some ask for healing with no intention of walking with the Lord (being led by His Word) and ask for themselves for their own selfish motives not being in agreement with the Lord’s purpose for their lives which is to live their lives separated unto Him (Holy) departing from the desires of this world being in agreement with Him.

James 1:5-7
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that gives to all men liberally, in spite of their faults; and it shall be given him.
But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavers is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed… For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

Romans 8:11
But IF the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you. (see 2 Corinthians 3:17 – where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, freedom.. this includes healing!)

Krich wrote:

. wrote:is God not sovereign?

Sure His is!  When God created man, He sovereignly decided to create man in His Own Image and gave unto man dominion (Genesis 1:26) which is where God gave is free will.

Man is free to decide to accept the Lord Jesus or reject the Lord Jesus.

The Lord is not going around killing people... unless they are evil and need to be removed from the earth, so the Lord was not the cause of or the reason this guy dies from that conevirus.

Here's a few scriptures to take very seriously and quit listening to religious organizations that have been heavily influenced by the enemy (falling away in the last day the Lord warned about.)


Proverbs 4:20-23  (see John 8:51, Proverbs 5:1,2, James 1:22… Most Christians don’t do this – BIG MISTAKE!)
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

Psalms 91:9,10   (see Luke 10:19, 1 John 2:6, James 4:7)
Because you have made the LORD, which is My refuge, even the most High, your habitation;
There shall no evil fall upon you, neither shall any plague come near your household.
(only applicable to those that have submitted their lives to the Lord, walking in the Spirit by allowing God's Word to remain IN them… have I made the Lord my habitation?  Am I living IN CHRIST by allowing Him to live in Me?)

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by Whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

James 5:14,15
Is any sick among you? (there shouldn’t be) let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.  (Unfortunately, it’s near impossible now to find elders that follow God’s Word that know how to pray the prayer of faith… so one MUST learn how to pray / receive directly from the Lord for themselves!... God never mentions calling a physician but instead says "the prayer of faith shall save the sick")

Exodus 15:26
If you will diligently listen to the voice of the LORD your God, and will do that which is right in His sight, and will give ear to His commandments, and keep all His statutes, I will not put (allow) any diseases upon you, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that heals you. (Walk in the Spirit – See Romans

Exodus 23:24-26
You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images  (cast down imaginations and every high thing, see 2 Corinthians 10:5)
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.

James 4:3
You ask, and receive not, because you ask wrongly, that you may use for your own fleshly desires.
*Some ask for healing with no intention of walking with the Lord (being led by His Word) and ask for themselves for their own selfish motives not being in agreement with the Lord’s purpose for their lives which is to live their lives separated unto Him (Holy) departing from the desires of this world being in agreement with Him.

James 1:5-7
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that gives to all men liberally, in spite of their faults; and it shall be given him.
But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavers is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed… For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

Romans 8:11
But IF the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you. (see 2 Corinthians 3:17 – where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, freedom.. this includes healing!)

Love it. Spitting out the home truths. Can't argue with God's word!

. wrote:Actually, it never said he was delivered, he says God told him His grace was sufficient for him.

Read the great commission... Jesus said those that believe would cast devils out.

Paul got saved by grace thru faith and by the grace of God as a Christian he has the authority believers have Jesus spoke of in the great commission

Paul had to learn this... he also had to learn that you don't go to God and ask Him to get the devil off of you, no according to Jesus WE are to cast the devil out.

This is how Jesus lived His life, and we are called to be like Jesus not Paul

Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Ephesians 5:1
Be imitators of God, therefore, as beloved children,

. wrote:he would have died eventually...if we are healed of all illness why do we get old and die?

Obviously.  It's appointed unto man once to die, to exit this natural world

But, while I'm here I don't have to be sick and there are many promises in God's Word on things man can do to prolong his life.

On the flip side of that, there are warnings about things man can do that will shorten his life.

But sadly, most churches are clueless and when someone dies that say God needed another angel and other foolishness as though God is going around whacking people!

I have one too:

“ Answer not a fool according to his folly,lest you be like him yourself.” (Prov 26:4 ESV)

Jesus suffered on this earth, the early church was fed to the lions, we have recorded incidents of them being sick but now it's not supposed to happen? And you are disagreeing with the Bible when Paul wrote that God said his grace was sufficient. But I'm with Pethead here.

In house verse wars, ahhh, brings back the days. But this guys good, either a clued up troll or super legalistic (as they say). Nevertheless, popcorn.

. wrote:“ Answer not a fool according to his folly,lest you be like him yourself.” (Prov 26:4 ESV)

That was written for those that do not accept the whole counsel of God... you know, those cherry pickers!