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Post by Pethead Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:03 pm

I’ll take River and Camelot over WaJ, AASB, HWIS, and TSK.
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Post by StevenCressler Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:21 pm

Pethead wrote:I’ll take River and Camelot over WaJ, AASB, HWIS, and TSK.
Those four albums slap.
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Post by TZ75 Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:32 am

A roundhouse kick is better than a slap.
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Post by Dustofyears Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:13 am

Very surprised by this thread.

Not a huge Megadeth or Metallica fan these days but at one point or another along the way, probably like most here, they would've been a favorite band for sure. So for me it's hands down 80's Megadeth.

Peace sells and SFSGSW are my first equal favs then RIP (yes I know it's 1990 but it's my party and I'll cry if I want to). For me they'll never top those albums.

Still like some of their 90's efforts though and also like Dystopia.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:59 am

80s Megadeth by far!

In the 90s I got less and less interested in this band and more into obscure thrash, classic heavy metal, and death metal.
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Post by TZ75 Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:21 am

Temple of Blood wrote:80s Megadeth by far!

In the 90s I got less and less interested in this band and more into obscure thrash, classic heavy metal, and death metal.


But if we change the question to: 80’s vs 00’s, what would you say? 

You’re a big “Head Crusher” guy.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:27 am

TZ75 wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:80s Megadeth by far!

In the 90s I got less and less interested in this band and more into obscure thrash, classic heavy metal, and death metal.


But if we change the question to: 80’s vs 00’s, what would you say? 

You’re a big “Head Crusher” guy.

80s still, no question.  Not even a contest.  They only put out 2 good albums in the 00s, and 2 relatively crappy ones.

But even Megadeth's worst decade is better than what Metallica did after the 80s.  That band has been pathetic for a long, long time.  Where would they have been without riffs from Mustaine, Burton, and Newsted?
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Post by Superjuice Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:39 am

Temple of Blood wrote:
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Temple of Blood wrote:80s Megadeth by far!


But if we change the question to: 80’s vs 00’s, what would you say? 

Where would they have been without riffs from Mustaine, Burton, and Newsted?

All three virtually non-existent on AJFA geek
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Post by Pethead Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:41 am

Newsted contributed the main riff on Blackened, if I remember correctly. Peak Metallica>Peak Deth. Bad Deth>Bad Metallica. Average Metallica>Average Deth. 

Obviously, Torn Flesh owns both of them.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:54 am

Superjuice wrote:
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Temple of Blood wrote:80s Megadeth by far!


But if we change the question to: 80’s vs 00’s, what would you say? 

Where would they have been without riffs from Mustaine, Burton, and Newsted?

All three virtually non-existent on AJFA geek

Newsted wrote the main riff to the first song on the album.  Most likely the best single riff on the entire album.

AJFA has some clunkers on it too, like Eye of the Beholder and the title track.  Mustaine's songs were better than those.

I think it's undeniable that Het was influenced by Dave's style while he was in the band.
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Post by TZ75 Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:30 pm

I have always loved Eye of the Beholder!

Awesome rhythmic song.
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Post by TZ75 Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:35 pm

To be fair… Hetfield had disagreed with a lot of Lars Ulrich’s ideas. He’s quoted in interviews to not like some of the directions the band went during the Load years. But he obviously gave in and also let his “outlaw country” influences infiltrate their metal sound.
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Post by TZ75 Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:41 pm

Pethead wrote:Newsted contributed the main riff on Blackened, if I remember correctly. Peak Metallica>Peak Deth. Bad Deth>Bad Metallica. Average Metallica>Average Deth. 

Agreed. Except for the Torn Flesh part (deleted that).
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Post by Black Rider Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:51 pm

Peak Metallica doesn't touch RIP.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:51 pm

Average Deth>>>Average Metallica
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Post by Pethead Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:04 pm

RiP doesn’t touch MoP or AJfA.

I don’t think average Metallica is better than average Deth. But I like it better.
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Post by Pethead Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:05 pm

TZ75 wrote:I have always loved Eye of the Beholder!

Awesome rhythmic song.
I love every song on AJfA.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:46 pm

TZ75 wrote:
Pethead wrote:Newsted contributed the main riff on Blackened, if I remember correctly. Peak Metallica>Peak Deth. Bad Deth>Bad Metallica. Average Metallica>Average Deth. 

Agreed. Except for the Torn Flesh part (deleted that).
Well, he's being sarcastic... (though you might have known that)
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Post by Pethead Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:47 pm

I’m NEVER sarcastic.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:48 pm

Black Rider wrote:Peak Metallica doesn't touch RIP.
When it comes to the technical guitar skills, RiP is better. When it comes to how good the songs actually are, MoP and AJFA are better
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Post by Superjuice Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:56 pm

TZ75 wrote:To be fair… Hetfield had disagreed with a lot of Lars Ulrich’s ideas. He’s quoted in interviews to not like some of the directions the band went during the Load years. But he obviously gave in and also let his “outlaw country” influences infiltrate their metal sound.
Lars follows trends and put the kibosh on Kirk's solos on St. Anger.
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Post by Superjuice Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:04 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Black Rider wrote:Peak Metallica doesn't touch RIP.
When it comes to the technical guitar skills, RiP is better. When it comes to how good the songs actually are, MoP and AJFA are better
Disagree. Lucretia and other deep tracks are equally as good if not better than obscure songs on Met's classic albums.  It might all depend on single string riffing vs. chord riffage.  Ranking these three probably relies on your preference whether if you like single string riffs or chordal riffing. 

I can go either way, but I rank them RIP, AJFA, then MoP.  RIP has the most variety and Friedman >>>> Hammett.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:06 pm

Superjuice wrote:
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Black Rider wrote:Peak Metallica doesn't touch RIP.
When it comes to the technical guitar skills, RiP is better. When it comes to how good the songs actually are, MoP and AJFA are better
Disagree. Lucretia and other deep tracks are equally as good if not better than obscure songs on Met's classic albums.  It might all depend on single string riffing vs. chord riffage.  Ranking these three probably relies on your preference whether if you like single string riffs or chordal riffing. 

I can go either way, but I rank them RIP, AJFA, then MoP.  RIP has the most variety and Friedman >>>> Hammett.
At the end of the day a lot of it is subjective.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:19 pm

I'm not into RiP as most people because I don't think Friedman was as much of an upgrade from Poland as most others believe.  It's not like Friedman was replacing CC Deville.  

But of course it is a great album.
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Post by Pethead Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:31 pm

I like Poland a lot too. I just really like the songs on RiP more than any other Deth album.
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