J. P. Brown II & M. Morales live tribute to T. Kirkpatrick & M. Bloodgood

Allan wasn’t grieving. He clearly said he didn’t like their music. He obviously didn’t spend any time with them either. Maybe he just likes to drink. Its not like Jimmy doesn’t have bad habits too… he smokes cigarettes and having been a long time employee in a casino, he probably also drinks on occasion. They’re not exactly the squeaky clean traditional Christians. They are the kind that most fundamentalist believers frown upon.

no no, not grieving over those guys, clearly he wasn't into Bloodgood or TQT stuff and knew little about Mike or Ted- which makes one wonder, just what was he dong there...(still found him funny though.. i meant in grieving general like something personal in his life... doesn't matter, think I got something mixed up along the line there with another comment.

Turns out that this wasn’t originally supposed to be a tribute. Allan didn’t really want to go and he even predicted that he would get himself into trouble. 

This was said on his Chameleon Church show (recorded the same day before the “tribute” panel).

To my limited knowledge, this is the first, true Christian Punk Rock Album. !983. Scatered Few debut according to Google was released !990. Unless Allan means a band previous to Scatered Few.

 
Used to listen to it at school. Christian Ramones but with a new wave edge (see Keyboards)

Edit: Gotta say, he Likes to talk!

TZ75 wrote:Turns out that this wasn’t originally supposed to be a tribute. Allan didn’t really want to go and he even predicted that he would get himself into trouble.

The tribute was only a part of the video in the first place.
The full name of the video is "BLOODGOOD & Tourniquet Tribute & 80's Rock Look back Allan Aguirre & Deliverance"

It was supposed to be also a general look back on 80's rock. It probably was initially supposed to be only that but the sudden death of Ted probably made them include that into the show.

Dustofyears wrote:To my limited knowledge, this is the first, true Christian Punk Rock Album. !983. Scatered Few debut according to Google was released !990. Unless Allan means a band previous to Scatered Few.

 
Used to listen to it at school. Christian Ramones but with a new wave edge (see Keyboards)

Edit: Gotta say, he Likes to talk!

Scaterd Few was formed in 1983 and they released a demo that year.

Airola wrote:

TZ75 wrote:Turns out that this wasn’t originally supposed to be a tribute. Allan didn’t really want to go and he even predicted that he would get himself into trouble.

The tribute was only a part of the video in the first place.
The full name of the video is "BLOODGOOD & Tourniquet Tribute & 80's Rock Look back Allan Aguirre & Deliverance"

It was supposed to be also a general look back on 80's rock. It probably was initially supposed to be only that but the sudden death of Ted probably made them include that into the show.

That’s what Allan said in the video I posted.

Airola wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:To my limited knowledge, this is the first, true Christian Punk Rock Album. !983. Scatered Few debut according to Google was released !990. Unless Allan means a band previous to Scatered Few.

 
Used to listen to it at school. Christian Ramones but with a new wave edge (see Keyboards)

Edit: Gotta say, he Likes to talk!

Scaterd Few was formed in 1983 and they released a demo that year.

After the last few posts everything makes a lot more sense now. Thanks the info about Scaterd.

Meh Allen ruined it as always turned it off after 10 minutes

Opeth3232 wrote:Meh Allen ruined it as always turned it off after 10 minutes

Likewise. Too disorganized and off-topic (the first two topics listed as the title) for me.

At least Pastor Bob's talking now.  I may disagree with him politically, but he's a great man of God and full of gravitas.

BaleMaster wrote:At least Pastor Bob's talking now.  I may disagree with him politically, but he's a great man of God and full of gravitas.

Why? 
I don't see many political comments on his YouTube channel.
I would see him as a socialist due to his ministry with the homeless. However, I have seen he is very aware of the "woke" problem in our society and he looks to be all against it.

Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

Dustofyears wrote:Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

The other thing being a new Metallica album.

MagnusPrime wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

The other thing being a new Metallica album.

LOL...gulp... 

Though no words were spoken I could still feel the cold rage coming through the screen, speaking of which there is a great interview with James and Kirk might post later on that thread.

MagnusPrime wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

The other thing being a new Metallica album.

Opinions are divided on the new Metallica album (like politics in the USA).

Dustofyears wrote:Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

Do you think so? 
Though it is a polemic topic to talk about, we shouldn't be so afraid, one mentioned the word politics and I asked why it would be so controversial. If someone simply can't answer that pacifically, then it could show lots of immaturity and lack of sympathy.

I am ok with people that differ politically with me. In fact, I've learned that it is almost impossible to change someone's point of view. It is like hoping someone could change the football team he supports.

Anyway. The thing is, I follow Pastor Bob and his ministry in Sanctuary International and have not seen a strong political position. If there's so, I wish to know, so I will be more careful from now on and then decide in a soon future how it affects the way I think of Christianity and If I should still follow the church.
Just it.

Second Wind wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

Do you think so? 
Though it is a polemic topic to talk about, we shouldn't be so afraid, one mentioned the word politics and I asked why it would be so controversial. If someone simply can't answer that pacifically, then it could show lots of immaturity and lack of sympathy.

I am ok with people that differ politically with me. In fact, I've learned that it is almost impossible to change someone's point of view. It is like hoping someone could change the football team he supports.

Anyway. The thing is, I follow Pastor Bob and his ministry in Sanctuary International and have not seen a strong political position. If there's so, I wish to know, so I will be more careful from now on and then decide in a soon future how it affects the way I think of Christianity and If I should still follow the church.
Just it.

I was sort tongue in cheek. I'll let Balemaster answer if he wants. but Personally I hate politicians and religion and Gods of any kind except for in the world of fantasy novels. However, as far as Bob goes, I do not know the man but what I have seen of him on videos etc, and he looks to be a gentle kind of man that wouldn't force his views down anyone's throat but would share them if asked about them. But Like I say, I don't know the man or his politics and have no opinion on him at all, except from what I can tell he looks to be like a decent fellow. But then I have learned people are very complex.

Anyway, if you're a christian isn't the point to believe to the point no man or thing can make you question your belief (as in why would Bob, a mere man, change your views of being a christian etc... Ah, you know how the game goes. More power to ya second wind.

Dustofyears wrote:

Second Wind wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

Do you think so? 
Though it is a polemic topic to talk about, we shouldn't be so afraid, one mentioned the word politics and I asked why it would be so controversial. If someone simply can't answer that pacifically, then it could show lots of immaturity and lack of sympathy.

I am ok with people that differ politically with me. In fact, I've learned that it is almost impossible to change someone's point of view. It is like hoping someone could change the football team he supports.

Anyway. The thing is, I follow Pastor Bob and his ministry in Sanctuary International and have not seen a strong political position. If there's so, I wish to know, so I will be more careful from now on and then decide in a soon future how it affects the way I think of Christianity and If I should still follow the church.
Just it.

I was sort tongue in cheek. I'll let Balemaster answer if he wants. but Personally I hate politicians and religion and Gods of any kind except for in the world of fantasy novels. However, as far as Bob goes, I do not know the man but what I have seen of him on videos etc, and he looks to be a gentle kind of man that wouldn't force his views down anyone's throat but would share them if asked about them. But Like I say, I don't know the man or his politics and have no opinion on him at all, accept from what I can tell he looks to be like a decent fellow. But then I have learned people are very complex.

Anyway, if you're a christian isn't the point to believe to the point no man or thing can make you question your belief (as in why would Bob, a mere man, change your views of being a christian etc... Ah, you know how the game goes. More power to ya second wind.

You may think he's looking at the world through Rose Colored Stained Glass Windows, but he seems like a Stand Up kind of guy

bodachi wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:

Second Wind wrote:

Dustofyears wrote:Politics, one of those two things you should never bring up in a conversation. Starts wars.

Do you think so? 
Though it is a polemic topic to talk about, we shouldn't be so afraid, one mentioned the word politics and I asked why it would be so controversial. If someone simply can't answer that pacifically, then it could show lots of immaturity and lack of sympathy.

I am ok with people that differ politically with me. In fact, I've learned that it is almost impossible to change someone's point of view. It is like hoping someone could change the football team he supports.

Anyway. The thing is, I follow Pastor Bob and his ministry in Sanctuary International and have not seen a strong political position. If there's so, I wish to know, so I will be more careful from now on and then decide in a soon future how it affects the way I think of Christianity and If I should still follow the church.
Just it.

I was sort tongue in cheek. I'll let Balemaster answer if he wants. but Personally I hate politicians and religion and Gods of any kind except for in the world of fantasy novels. However, as far as Bob goes, I do not know the man but what I have seen of him on videos etc, and he looks to be a gentle kind of man that wouldn't force his views down anyone's throat but would share them if asked about them. But Like I say, I don't know the man or his politics and have no opinion on him at all, accept from what I can tell he looks to be like a decent fellow. But then I have learned people are very complex.

Anyway, if you're a christian isn't the point to believe to the point no man or thing can make you question your belief (as in why would Bob, a mere man, change your views of being a christian etc... Ah, you know how the game goes. More power to ya second wind.

You may think he's looking at the world through Rose Colored Stained Glass Windows, but he seems like a Stand Up kind of guy

Two in one. Nice. And spoken like a true disciple.

I agree with other's assessments here. This was not really a tribute to either Bloodgood or Tourniquet/Ted. It was the Jummy/Alan show, and yes, Alan comes across as a bit of a jerk. That being said, it was entertaining and informative. But they should have gotten actual Bloodgood and Tourniquet fans to take part in the conversation. Alan was not a fit at all for this.

Second Wind wrote:

BaleMaster wrote:At least Pastor Bob's talking now.  I may disagree with him politically, but he's a great man of God and full of gravitas.

Why? 
I don't see many political comments on his YouTube channel.
I would see him as a socialist due to his ministry with the homeless. However, I have seen he is very aware of the "woke" problem in our society and he looks to be all against it.

A few years back on his Facebook page, I got into a minor quibble with Pastor Bob regarding liberalism and conservatism, and he definitely defended the left and excoriated those on the right.  That's what I'm referencing.

And for the record, Dust, I couldn't care less of your thoughts regarding God.  Tread carefully, dude...you're participating on a site mainly populated by those who love Him and trust Him.  Which is precisely why I put you on ignore some time ago.  I guess you can have eternity to clench your puny fists and wag your haughty tongue in a place full of fire and brimstone, if you so choose.  

End rant.

I’m going to state the obvious… 
Pastor Bob is just another flawed human like the rest of us. I really like his gentle personality in this chaotic world of anger. I don’t personally know him, but I follow his YouTube channel, I have his books…

He seems like a genuine guy that loves Jesus and wants to help people. I’m not familiar with his political views, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is heavy on the liberal side. I am unashamedly conservative. I like order and protecting our constitutional rights. I’m against globalism. 

That said, I appreciate his day to day (life application) commentary!

I do too. He is a wise and godly man.

BaleMaster wrote:I do too.  He is a wise and godly man.  

Just to be clear, I was in no way discounting your experience. I just wanted to add some thoughts about him.