Queensryche

New QR song, been out a few weeks now



And Operation: Mindcrime

Latorre is embarrassing Tate.

When money allows, I plan to get that new QR. I've heard a few songs from it, and it is amazing. It's almost hard to fathom how this band stuck with Tate's foolishness this long. He has really held them back for going on 20 years. Just think of the music that could have been produced all along if they'd parted with Tate back in the 90s and kept recording metal with a new singer!

The 'ryche sound like they are hungry. Tate sounds like he's phoning it in. The way Todd's vocals are done are how I wish The Sacrificed would sound.

Follower of Jesus wrote:When money allows, I plan to get that new QR. I've heard a few songs from it, and it is amazing. It's almost hard to fathom how this band stuck with Tate's foolishness this long. He has really held them back for going on 20 years. Just think of the music that could have been produced all along if they'd parted with Tate back in the 90s and kept recording metal with a new singer!

I kind of agree with you there. Certainly the albums past "Tribe" are pretty bad.

But Tate did perform some awesome songs with the band on those 90s albums and also "Tribe". But after "Tribe" they lost something. That's when Tate should have left IMO.

 I saw them live on their "American Soldier" tour and when they started playing the new songs everybody sat down LOL! I'm not kidding! They were TERRIBLE!

But when they played their older stuff folks were into it. It was amazing how bad "American Soldier" was live. I never bought the album as a result.

I'm really looking forward to this album.  Todd LaTorre has breathed some new life into the group (so very happy Tate is gone).

I made the mistake of pre-ordering this album from Amazon at the same time as the WASP album...so amazon has decided to wait and send them both together sometime at the end of next week. 

This is an incredible sound, thanks for sharing!

It's nice to have Queensryche back!!!

This album is phenomenal. Best album since their Heyday in the late 80's early 90's. They are back!

I think Geoff was trying to get something out before QR (same as the last F.U. release, what a DUMB title). This album and that one don't sound good at all, the new QR blows both out of the water.

I've got my copy on order and am eagerly awaiting it.  I've been a QR fan since Empire.  Though after Promised Land, I don't care for much of their material until their 2013 self-titled release, which was a return to form, IMHO.  I never bothered to get Frequency Unknown, despite my completist tendencies in CD collecting.  I will pass on Operation: Mindcrime's new album as well.

This is the first Queensryche I have heard since Empire. At the risk of invoking the wrath of my brethren here, it seems like LaTorre is getting alot of credit for sounding like a younger Tate.

If this new album is their apology for 18+ years of bad albums, then...

apology accepted

H.M. Murdock wrote:If this new album is their apology for 18+ years of bad albums, then...

apology accepted

 Well said.

metaldude wrote:This is the first Queensryche I have heard since Empire. At the risk of invoking the wrath of my brethren here, it seems like LaTorre is getting alot of credit for sounding like a younger Tate.

I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, but it seems to me that the vast majority of people who "hate on LaTorre" for trying to be a Tate clone, or even for not sounding as good as "Tate in his prime", have not heard Tate sing a single song in nearly 20 years.  If Tate sang at a 9.5/10 in his prime, he now sounds more like a 2/10...the man just cannot really sing anymore. 

It's obvious to me that LaTorre is going for that classic "Tate style" when singing with Queensryche, but I expect you will see him move slightly away from that "clone sound" as the band releases more records.  If you listen to any of the other music he has recorded (outside of Queensryche) you will hear he really isn't a "Tate clone" but can certainly come close to emulating Tate on those classic Queensryche songs.  Check out this song he recorded with Tommy Vitaly a few years back.  If this was the only song anyone had ever heard him sing I'm not sure people would be calling him a "Tate clone" (again no wrath from me brother, I just find it odd the negative forum comments LaTorre is getting, especially given that there will never be another classic Queensryche record with Tate at the mic, because he just can't do it)

It's more then Todd, though he has added a spark, but Geoff had taken over the band and derailed them. Face it, he's an egomaniac.

Staybrite wrote:

metaldude wrote:This is the first Queensryche I have heard since Empire. At the risk of invoking the wrath of my brethren here, it seems like LaTorre is getting alot of credit for sounding like a younger Tate.

I'm not saying that this is what you are doing, but it seems to me that the vast majority of people who "hate on LaTorre" for trying to be a Tate clone, or even for not sounding as good as "Tate in his prime", have not heard Tate sing a single song in nearly 20 years.

I'm guilty. I bought my last Queensryche album (Operation Mindcrime) in the 80's. Beyond that, it's only from radio that I heard anything from them. That said, I'm not knocking LaTorre for sounding like Tate. Reading this thread, I got got the feeling they had a new sound. When I listened to the new song I thought, "Yep, that's Queensryche". LaTorre has a great voice and it fits the band. Even if I thought he was a Tate clone, it's not an insult. Regardless of how he sounds now, I think Tate has (or had) one of the best voices to ever pick up a microphone. I know nothing about their down days or the drama behind the scenes. When I think of Queensryche, I think "Warning" or "Queen of the Ryche" or "Walk in the Shadows" or (I still get chills on this one) "Take Hold of the Flame".

No, I'm not dissin' anyone. I love my metal too much to play the "so and so sucks" game.

metaldude wrote:
I'm guilty. I bought my last Queensryche album (Operation Mindcrime) in the 80's. Beyond that, it's only from radio that I heard anything from them. That said, I'm not knocking LaTorre for sounding like Tate. Reading this thread, I got got the feeling they had a new sound. When I listened to the new song I thought, "Yep, that's Queensryche". LaTorre has a great voice and it fits the band. Even if I thought he was a Tate clone, it's not an insult. Regardless of how he sounds now, I think Tate has (or had) one of the best voices to ever pick up a microphone. I know nothing about their down days or the drama behind the scenes. When I think of Queensryche, I think "Warning" or "Queen of the Ryche" or "Walk in the Shadows" or (I still get chills on this one) "Take Hold of the Flame".

No, I'm not dissin' anyone. I love my metal too much to play the "so and so sucks" game.

I completely agree that in his prime Tate was amazing (one of the reasons Queensryche was my favorite band).  And I absolutely love those albums from the EP to Promised Land.  But what he turned the band into is inexcusable.  Also for some reason (possibly over consumption) his lost most of his ability to truly sing.  Below is a track from the last album he recorded with Queensryche, despite the fact that the music doesn't resemble anything the band recorded in the 80's or 90's, Tate's vocal performance is mundane (at best)...a pale fraction of his former glory.  Quite frankly I had completely given up on the band until they fired Tate and hired LaTorre to replace him.

^^ Eewww!! How can you do that to me. I thought we were friends.

metaldude wrote:^^ Eewww!! How can you do that to me. I thought we were friends.

Sorry, just trying to "share the pain".