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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:41 pm

I asked AI a question about my retainers (recently got my braces off) and I started on a little spiral asking it for some Christian death metal bands with vocals like later Death. The results were kind of what i was expecting, but one band it recommended was Tourniquet. It said this:

"While there isn't a specific, documented quote from Chuck Schuldiner explicitly praising Tourniquet, it's well-known that he respected their technical skill and the depth of their lyrics."

Does anyone know if this is actually true?
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Post by Pethead Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:44 pm

No clue. I don’t trust AI.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:49 pm

Pethead wrote:No clue. I don’t trust AI.
I don't either, but it keeps saying it every time I ask it. Usually, it'll change its answer if you ask it the same question multiple times.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:58 pm

I don't believe that for a second.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:26 pm

I wouldn't be too surprised. Tons of secular musicians have said they like Christian bands. Marty has talked about liking/preformed with Tourniquet and Ted. I believe that Lars said he loves the music video for Weapons of Our Warfare.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:29 pm

You should be surprised.  I've listened to his music for decades and read a ton of interviews and I've never heard him mention that band or wear a shirt of theirs.  You're projecting your views onto him.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:31 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:You should be surprised.  I've listened to his music for decades and read a ton of interviews and I've never heard him mention that band or wear a shirt of theirs.  You're projecting your views onto him.
I didn't say I believed it; I said I wouldn't be too surprised.
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:34 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:I wouldn't be too surprised. Tons of secular musicians have said they like Christian bands. Marty has talked about liking/preformed with Tourniquet and Ted. I believe that Lars said he loves the music video for Weapons of Our Warfare.
WooW was Lars' favorite music video of 1990
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:35 pm

He was open about the bands he was into:  Kiss, Watchtower, Sortilege, Coroner, Possessed, Slayer, Venom

Nothing he recorded sounded anything like Tourniquet.  There's just 0 evidence that he cared anything about them.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:35 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:I wouldn't be too surprised. Tons of secular musicians have said they like Christian bands. Marty has talked about liking/preformed with Tourniquet and Ted. I believe that Lars said he loves the music video for Weapons of Our Warfare.
WooW was Lars' favorite music video of 1990

evidence?
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:45 pm

Actually, it was top 10 of all time. I can't find Lars directly saying it but I found several articles mentioning it
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Post by seth Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:06 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:He was open about the bands he was into:  Kiss, Watchtower, Sortilege, Coroner, Possessed, Slayer, Venom

Nothing he recorded sounded anything like Tourniquet.  There's just 0 evidence that he cared anything about them.
One of these things is not like the others…
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Post by seth Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:07 pm

AI language models can be fun to play around with, but beyond that I don’t think they’re really useful for much. I certainly wouldn’t trust their statements if you can’t find evidence elsewhere
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Post by Bronze Age Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:37 pm

I agree there is no evidence it is true.

BUT, anything is possible. Schuldiner seemed like the kind of guy who had hundreds of records. In the 90's he was probably buying them for $3-$4 a piece. I bet he was exposed to almost everything. Who wouldn't like Stop the Bleeding?

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Post by Maddierecords1 Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:04 am

I'll try to find the links but one of his ex bandmates said chuck became Christian in his last years. Also chuck said he respected his mom's Christian views and he tried to learn and understand all religions etc. So he may not have been a practicing Christian(at least til later) but it's pretty documented that he at least respected others views and could enjoy it. So no reason he couldn't have enjoyed tourniquet. 

I say all of that defending the AI stuff which honestly I HATE AI and think it will be the final straw in society as we know it. (Make it even worse than it is now). But that's for another topic.

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Post by StevenCressler Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:20 am

Maddierecords1 wrote:I'll try to find the links but one of his ex bandmates said chuck became Christian in his last years. Also chuck said he respected his mom's Christian views and he tried to learn and understand all religions etc. So he may not have been a practicing Christian(at least til later) but it's pretty documented that he at least respected others views and could enjoy it. So no reason he couldn't have enjoyed tourniquet. 

I say all of that defending the AI stuff which honestly I HATE AI and think it will be the final straw in society as we know it. (Make it even worse than it is now). But that's for another topic.
I hate some of the uses, but I like it overall and use it pretty often.
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Post by seth Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:30 am

I played around with chat gpt a while back, mostly making it generate ridiculous images for laughs. But after a while it started gaslighting me by refusing to generate more images, and claiming it had never been able to generate them in the first place (which was obviously false). Still have no idea what happened. After that I lost interest and haven’t used it since
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Post by Pethead Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:35 am

I hate AI and feel its rapid and widespread embrace and implementation is yet another step on the downward spiral for our society.

But other than that I don’t have any strong feelings about it…
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Post by seth Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:41 am

I think it’s important for people to realize that a potential dystopia brought about by AI/robots/machines would look much more like WALL-E than like Terminator or The Matrix
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Post by Maddierecords1 Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:41 am

Pethead wrote:I hate AI and feel its rapid and widespread embrace and implementation is yet another step on the downward spiral for our society.

But other than that I don’t have any strong feelings about it…
Wish I could hit the like button twice.

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Post by Pethead Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:44 am

seth wrote:I think it’s important for people to realize that a potential dystopia brought about by AI/robots/machines would look much more like WALL-E than like Terminator or The Matrix
I didn’t say anything about a dystopia. I’m more concerned about the harm to creativity, research, critical thinking, and the ability to separate fact from falsehood.
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Post by StevenCressler Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:46 am

The fact that it could, in the future, fake court evidence, is pretty terrifying. There should be some way to prevent it from being able to replicate real people. I will also say I use chat stuff much more than image generation.
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Post by Maddierecords1 Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:00 am

StevenCressler wrote:The fact that it could, in the future, fake court evidence, is pretty terrifying. There should be some way to prevent it from being able to replicate real people. I will also say I use chat stuff much more than image generation.
Agreed. It's already being used to fake inappropriate pictures of people and ruining their lives. 

And it's used for political gain in commercials and ads etc. which is gross too. Just all around terrivke.

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Post by StevenCressler Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:11 am

Maddierecords1 wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:The fact that it could, in the future, fake court evidence, is pretty terrifying. There should be some way to prevent it from being able to replicate real people. I will also say I use chat stuff much more than image generation.
Agreed. It's already being used to fake inappropriate pictures of people and ruining their lives. 

And it's used for political gain in commercials and ads etc. which is gross too. Just all around terrivke.
Yeah. Image generation needs much more boundaries on what can and cannot be created. However I have no problems with sites like ChatGPT, which I use often for feedback on my stories.
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Post by Maddierecords1 Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:15 am

StevenCressler wrote:
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StevenCressler wrote:The fact that it could, in the future, fake court evidence, is pretty terrifying. There should be some way to prevent it from being able to replicate real people. I will also say I use chat stuff much more than image generation.
Agreed. It's already being used to fake inappropriate pictures of people and ruining their lives. 

And it's used for political gain in commercials and ads etc. which is gross too. Just all around terrivke.
Yeah. Image generation needs much more boundaries on what can and cannot be created. However I have no problems with sites like ChatGPT, which I use often for feedback on my stories.
Yeah. No problem with that. I look at it as a significantly more advance spell check. Which I obviously need based on my last post.

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