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Post by Pethead Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:08 pm

seth wrote:Yeah the fact that it was cloaked in shadow was a major part of its scariness. And also the movie portrayed it as a giant brutish beast, but the book portrayed it as a far more intelligent entity with strong magical powers, sort of a dark counterpart to Gandalf
From what I remember looking into it, that’s essentially what they are. 

As scary as the Balrog is, though, my pick for most unsettling line is:

"Far, far below the deepest delving of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. They are older than he. Now I have walked there, but I will bring no report to darken the light of day."
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Post by seth Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:40 pm

Yeah that past always triggered my curiosity, I wanted to know what the nameless things were. Although leaving it unknown kind of adds to the atmosphere by leaving it up to the reader’s imagination what unspeakable eldritch horrors lived deep in the earth
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Post by StevenCressler Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:11 pm

seth wrote:Yeah the fact that it was cloaked in shadow was a major part of its scariness. And also the movie portrayed it as a giant brutish beast, but the book portrayed it as a far more intelligent entity with strong magical powers, sort of a dark counterpart to Gandalf
Considering Gandalf is an angel and the Balrog is a demon, yes
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Post by scottmitchell74 Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:13 pm

They were having a battle of spells. They were practically dead-even, which is why it took days to finish their battle, and both died.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:03 am

StevenCressler wrote:I'm between Pethead and CTR on the Hobbit... I like the movies a lot, but LotR is much better

So they are what VR is to TQT
If I had said that it would mean TH is better than LOTR lol.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:06 am

I like how the Balrog is depicted in the TFOTR. If it was the dark shadow it would've been much harder to see in the dark cave.
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Post by scottmitchell74 Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:11 am

Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous. I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:16 am

scottmitchell74 wrote:Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous.  I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

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The CGI in TH is better than LOTR. The goblin city is a great scene, and very important.
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Post by Pethead Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:21 am

scottmitchell74 wrote:Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous.  I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

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The second one is worse. Just go on YouTube and find the barrel scene.
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Post by scottmitchell74 Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:24 am

Pethead wrote:
scottmitchell74 wrote:Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous.  I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

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The second one is worse. Just go on YouTube and find the barrel scene.
Yeah, I was reminded why I hadn't watched them since taken my girls to the theater. 

It's also why my one daughter has yet to open her box set of them that she got for Christmas... 8 years ago! She doesn't care for them either.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:25 am

Pethead wrote:
scottmitchell74 wrote:Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous.  I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

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The second one is worse. Just go on YouTube and find the barrel scene.
I LOVE THE BARREL SCENE! Idk why, I just do. It's so funny at times.
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Post by Pethead Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:31 am

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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:31 am

scottmitchell74 wrote:
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scottmitchell74 wrote:Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous.  I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad
The second one is worse. Just go on YouTube and find the barrel scene.
Yeah, I was reminded why I hadn't watched them since taken my girls to the theater. 

It's also why my one daughter has yet to open her box set of them that she got for Christmas... 8 years ago! She doesn't care for them either.
I don't see how you could love LOtR and hate TH at the same time. Y'all are just blinded by nostalgia for LOTR. My parents saw each H in theaters and they talk about the scene where Smaug's eye opens at the end of AUJ and how awesome it was. I want to see them in theaters sometime.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:39 am

Also this could be the best scene in any of the six movies (Yes, I'm exaggerating but it's still great)
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Post by Black Rider Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:13 am

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
scottmitchell74 wrote:
Pethead wrote:
scottmitchell74 wrote:Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous.  I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad
The second one is worse. Just go on YouTube and find the barrel scene.
Yeah, I was reminded why I hadn't watched them since taken my girls to the theater. 

It's also why my one daughter has yet to open her box set of them that she got for Christmas... 8 years ago! She doesn't care for them either.
I don't see how you could love LOtR and hate TH at the same time. Y'all are just blinded by nostalgia for LOTR. My parents saw each H in theaters and they talk about the scene where Smaug's eye opens at the end of AUJ and how awesome it was. I want to see them in theaters sometime.
Lotr at least followed somewhat closely to the books, The Hobbit movies aren't even in the same ballpark as the books.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:18 am

Black Rider wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
scottmitchell74 wrote:
Pethead wrote:
scottmitchell74 wrote:Finished The Hobbit.

Boring and ridiculous.  I hate the running/battle scene in the goblin city.

The cgi is rough.

Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad
The second one is worse. Just go on YouTube and find the barrel scene.
Yeah, I was reminded why I hadn't watched them since taken my girls to the theater. 

It's also why my one daughter has yet to open her box set of them that she got for Christmas... 8 years ago! She doesn't care for them either.
I don't see how you could love LOtR and hate TH at the same time. Y'all are just blinded by nostalgia for LOTR. My parents saw each H in theaters and they talk about the scene where Smaug's eye opens at the end of AUJ and how awesome it was. I want to see them in theaters sometime.
Lotr at least followed somewhat closely to the books, The Hobbit movies aren't even in the same ballpark as the books.
If you are watching the movies hoping them to be really close to the books you're going to get disappointed, every time.
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Post by Black Rider Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:24 am

The LotRs actually stay fairly close, of course they leave a bunch out. The Hobbit is almost a whole different story then the books.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:27 am

Black Rider wrote:The LotRs actually stay fairly close, of course they leave a bunch out. The Hobbit is almost a whole different story then the books.
Ok. The movies stories still go together perfectly. TH general story is the same is the books as far as I know. (I didn't say the whole story, the general story.)
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Post by seth Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:36 am

Although they almost always do it to some degree, I find it disconcerting when I watch a movie of a book I’ve read and they deviate from the story significantly. Like I said earlier, the Hobbit didn’t need to be stretched into 3 movies and LOTR needed more than 3 to fully do justice to the story
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:38 am

seth wrote:Although they almost always do it to some degree, I find it disconcerting when I watch a movie of a book I’ve read and they deviate from the story significantly. Like I said earlier, the Hobbit didn’t need to be stretched into 3 movies and LOTR needed more than 3 to fully do justice to the story
You know the extended editions exist right?
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Post by seth Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:45 am

I honestly don’t remember whether the version I watched was the extended or not, I watched it on DVD a while back. Looking it up they STILL completely left out the Tom Bombadil and the Scouring of the Shire parts (the latter of which meant they had to completely reimagine Saruman’s death) in the extended edition, which was one of my major gripes
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Post by Superjuice Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:15 pm

By every metric by which we quantify movies (RT score, audience score, awards granted, metacritic score) shows LOTR as superior and it's not even close.  

Peter Jackson even admits he screwed up The Hobbit.  So far this poll is demonstrating that as well.  Yeah, you might as well get into a 'do Balrogs have wings?' squabble while you're at it.  Fighting for The Hobbit is a chasing after the wind.

I wish Del Toro stayed on to finish the project - he has a much greater grasp on whimsy.
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Post by StevenCressler Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:43 pm

I like TH way more than most, but it is kinda ridiculous and LotR is better in every way
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Post by seth Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:45 pm

Been a while since I watched it, but didn’t they shoehorn in a romance between an elf woman and a beardless dwarf?
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