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Post by Black Rider Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:52 pm

Neon Cross. Second album is awful and he sounds drunk on vocals.

Jesus Freaks. Might be better with better production but I wasn't excited about the new direction.
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Post by Kerrick Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:57 pm

Lengsel and Sanctifica come to mind.  I do enjoy their second albums for what they are (Lengsel more so than Sanctifica), though both those bands' debuts are really something special that the follow-ups couldn't touch.

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Post by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:00 pm

Armageddon. Love The Money Mask, but wasn’t big on Up in Flames.

Final Axe. The debut is a scorcher. The follow-up has some good tunes but is kinda meh in comparison.

Living Sacrifice. I actually like most of their stuff to varying degrees, but oh, how I wish they’d have stuck to the Slayer sound. (As does Kerrick).
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Post by Kerrick Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:02 pm

Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.

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Post by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:16 pm

Kerrick wrote:Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.
I really like their debut but found the follow-up a letdown. I never checked out the third album. Their covers album was good.
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Post by Ammocas Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:22 pm

Stryper

lol…just kidding
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Post by Kerrick Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:26 pm

Pethead wrote:
Kerrick wrote:Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.
I really like their debut but found the follow-up a letdown. I never checked out the third album. Their covers album was good.

IMO their third album is much better than their second.  It's a solid album and worth giving a try!

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Post by MagnusPrime Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:37 pm

I know everyone here will agree when I say Deliverance and Mortification.



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Post by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:34 pm

People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.

X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
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Post by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:37 pm

Pethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.

X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Last Train = hair metal's #1 album
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Post by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:38 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.

X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Last Train = hair metal's #1 album
It’s not even their #1 album!
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Post by Lex Metalis Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:43 pm

Pethead wrote:
Kerrick wrote:Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.
I really like their debut but found the follow-up a letdown. I never checked out the third album. Their covers album was good.




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Post by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:44 pm

Pethead wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.

X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Last Train = hair metal's #1 album
It’s not even their #1 album!
But it is!

Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!  Wink
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Post by Black Rider Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:46 pm

Gen Z kids, know better than their elders. 😆


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Post by Pro-Zak Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:46 pm

Black Rider wrote:Neon Cross. Second album is awful and he sounds drunk on vocals.

Jesus Freaks. Might be better with better production but I wasn't excited about the new direction.

I prefer "Killdozer Metal!"
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Post by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:47 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.

X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Last Train = hair metal's #1 album
It’s not even their #1 album!
But it is!

Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!  Wink
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Post by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:49 pm

Black Rider wrote:Gen X kids, know better than their elders. 😆
I'm Gen Z, which is even worse lol

See? I knew better there  Wink
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Post by seth Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:57 pm

Isn’t gen X the one right after baby boomers?
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Post by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:01 pm

I’m a gen 1 guy.


Wait, sorry, I thought we were talking about Pokémon.
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Post by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:38 pm

Boomers
Gen X
Millennials
Gen Z
Alpha (I think. What a misnomer)
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Post by seth Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:40 pm

Yeah Alpha is the youngest now. Hopefully they don’t call the next one Gen Beta…
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Post by Ammocas Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:42 pm

Pethead wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.

X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Last Train = hair metal's #1 album
It’s not even their #1 album!
But it is!

Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!  Wink
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He’s too young to remember that movie
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Post by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:47 pm

Ammocas wrote:
Pethead wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.

X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Last Train = hair metal's #1 album
It’s not even their #1 album!
But it is!

Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!  Wink
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He’s too young to remember that movie
Whaddya mean? Isn't that Star Wars: The Next Generation?
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Post by Constantine Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:31 am

Recon.  They botched it because they didn't make a 2nd album!   tongue

More seriously, I agree with most of the suggestions and would add Vengeance Rising.    
I just don't find much to like after Human Sacrifice
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