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Post by alldatndensum Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:22 pm

Ken has responded to all the critics out there.  If you have a few minutes, take a listen.


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Post by Roebuckryan Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:57 pm

I don’t think this rebuttal video will age well. That’s all I’ll say. 🫤
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Post by Luke Easter Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:30 pm

I believe that’s called gaslighting.
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Post by alldatndensum Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:01 pm

Roebuckryan wrote:I don’t think this rebuttal video will age well. That’s all I’ll say. 🫤


I don't think the accusation videos will, either.  All they did was get people riled up, pile on Ken, and stir up division in the body of Christ.  It has made the Christian metal community look like a bunch of judgmental children who pick one another apart.  The accusations have been noticed by non-believers, and this will keep some who were checking out Ken's music from coming to the Lord.  The whole thing is sad.
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Post by Luke Easter Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:35 pm

Ken screwed up. Period.
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Post by Follower of Jesus Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:27 pm

Ken did not screw up, Luke. Geez. 🙄
He sang live and used backing tracks for those big BGVs his music is known for. Y’all need to quit with this crap, especially against a brother in Christ, no less!
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Post by Roebuckryan Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:52 pm

Well, though I said I wouldn’t, I suppose I’ll say a little more about this. First, I’ve been a fan of Ken’s for over 30 years. I love his music. He’s a talented guy. Wings of Pegasus on YouTube analyzed his Immortal performance. (As well as other videos from Ken) It was scientifically demonstrated that Ken did in fact lip sync many lead parts. He did sing some as well. (I’m not sure of the ratio) Ken being a world renowned vocal coach has made a living training singers to not “need” to use lead vocal tracks. Now, how does that look? Not good, right? If he would have admitted it and said “yeah, I not only use backing tracks but I also use some lead vocals because it fattens the sound and whatever.” But he didn’t. Instead, he comes out with a refutation that misses the mark. The world has noticed. They are calling him out. Christians have noticed too. Now, some may have not been so nice about it. I can’t say. But, frustration from vocalists that sing every part live…this situation doesn’t sit well. I pray this all passes soon but I in no way think it’s “un-Christian” to address individuals who are not being completely honest. Truthfully, it would have been best if he wouldn’t have even done a rebuttal. He doesn’t owe it to anyone really. But, because of his career, the world more than any Christian I know, wants an explanation why he had to use any lead vocal track since his course is supposed to eliminate that need. Note: I know he’s a good singer and musician. That isn’t in question. It’s more the ethics of performance that is in question. Sorry this is long. God bless.
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Post by Luke Easter Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:55 pm

Follower of Jesus wrote:Ken did not screw up, Luke. Geez. 🙄
He sang live and used backing tracks for those big BGVs his music is known for. Y’all need to quit with this crap, especially against a brother in Christ, no less!

He didn't just roll tape for BGVs. The lead vocal was being rolled in and out on a track as well. His "explanation" is straight up gaslighting.

I'm unsure what "crap" you're banging on about. If you're trying to make the assertion that it's wrong to point out bad behavior by fellow believers, I'm not sure how you support that notion.

Roebuckryan summed it up perfectly.
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:05 pm

I agree with everything said about his rebuttal, not really necessary. But there's also nothing wrong with needing to lip-sync here and there, especially as you get older.
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Post by Follower of Jesus Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:41 pm

I was not in a good place yesterday and I apologize for my comment above. Sorry.
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Post by Luke Easter Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:22 pm

Follower of Jesus wrote:I was not in a good place yesterday and I apologize for my comment above. Sorry.

No worries. It happens to all of us.
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Post by Staybrite Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:40 pm

I gotta confess I'm not understanding this.  Ken admitted to using backing tracks, but people are saying he lip-synched some of his lead vocals as well?
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Post by Luke Easter Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:56 pm

Yes. He was lip syncing parts of the lead vocals. And very obviously.
Which he denies. Whilst gaslighting people in the process.
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Post by Staybrite Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:54 pm

Luke Easter wrote:Yes. He was lip syncing parts of the lead vocals. And very obviously.
Which he denies. Whilst gaslighting people in the process.

Thanks for the explanation.
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