Re: Hot takes.

by Black Rider Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:41 pm

Have you met jazz players? Real jazz, not the Kenny G stuff. They take themselves way too seriously.

by Son of Nun Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:16 pm

by Pethead Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:18 pm

I prefer these guys:

by strangerhoncho Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:40 am

Superjuice wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:If Black Metal didn't have image and posturing, it wouldn't have much.

I watched a hilarious video about Venom's early years the other day and how they were in many ways a fake band built on fake concerts /promo pictures, etc and hadn't really played many shows at all. Once they finally got on tour to a wide audience everyone a few songs in realized they were terrible. The entire black metal scene is based on that band. More evidence for my "image ruins music" point I made in another thread.
My high school "criminal class" according to frequently worn T-shirt:

Metallicats were bad boys but still mostly somewhat mainstream and redeemable. Megadeth t-shirt kids were more rebellious but had an edge of intelligence. G'n'R guys were of low intelligence, tried to look the bad boy part, but still mostly abided by the rules. Slayer guys were usually in trouble, weren't going to finish school, and badly behaved, but Venom kids were still the most reprobate. The kids that wore Venom t-shirts in high school were the most degenerate kids imaginable. They wouldn't make it past freshman year, loved all things satanic, did drugs, and went straight to juvey hall.

This is great! Then again, my best friend was a Slayer and Cannibal Corpse t-shirt wearer and he went on to become a fireman and then a cop (still is). Of course, that was after I got him into Christ through Christian metal.

by Dustofyears Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:42 am

Black Rider wrote:Have you met jazz players? Real jazz, not the Kenny G stuff. They take themselves way too seriously.

They sure as heck do! I sometimes wonder if they even enjoy it. It's a super intense style of music.

by Dustofyears Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:45 am

strangerhoncho wrote:
Superjuice wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:If Black Metal didn't have image and posturing, it wouldn't have much.

I watched a hilarious video about Venom's early years the other day and how they were in many ways a fake band built on fake concerts /promo pictures, etc and hadn't really played many shows at all. Once they finally got on tour to a wide audience everyone a few songs in realized they were terrible. The entire black metal scene is based on that band. More evidence for my "image ruins music" point I made in another thread.
My high school "criminal class" according to frequently worn T-shirt:

Metallicats were bad boys but still mostly somewhat mainstream and redeemable. Megadeth t-shirt kids were more rebellious but had an edge of intelligence. G'n'R guys were of low intelligence, tried to look the bad boy part, but still mostly abided by the rules. Slayer guys were usually in trouble, weren't going to finish school, and badly behaved, but Venom kids were still the most reprobate. The kids that wore Venom t-shirts in high school were the most degenerate kids imaginable. They wouldn't make it past freshman year, loved all things satanic, did drugs, and went straight to juvey hall.

This is great! Then again, my best friend was a Slayer and Cannibal Corpse t-shirt wearer and he went on to become a fireman and then a cop (still is). Of course, that was after I got him into Christ through Christian metal.

Aha... lemme guess...Super juice was a megadeth fan lolz

by Christian Thrash Rules Yesterday at 9:05 am

I'm sure some of these have already been said but here.

The Gift Of Music is really good
To Hell With The Devil is good but overrated
More Power To Ya is the best Petra album pre-John Schlitt
Stop The Bleeding's vocals suck
Roger Martinez sounds great on the first two VR albums

by Pethead Yesterday at 9:17 am

I think most people agree with your Petra take, although I slightly prefer NotW.

Agreed on THwtD.

by Christian Thrash Rules Yesterday at 10:01 am

I like THWTD but it's too glam. I prefer newer Stryper by a pretty big margin. IGWT might be the best classic album, I have to relisten though.

by StevenCressler Yesterday at 10:35 am

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:I like THWTD but it's too glam. I prefer newer Stryper by a pretty big margin. IGWT might be the best classic album, I have to relisten though.

I agree with every word in this message

by Raegoul Yesterday at 10:55 am

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
Stop The Bleeding's vocals suck

Reported.

by Black Rider Yesterday at 11:44 am

IGWT is as much glam or more so then THWTD.

by StevenCressler Yesterday at 11:47 am

Black Rider wrote:IGWT is as much glam or more so then THWTD.

It is, however it's also better

by Pethead Yesterday at 11:56 am

StevenCressler wrote:
Black Rider wrote:IGWT is as much glam or more so then THWTD.
It is, however it's also better

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by Black Rider Yesterday at 2:57 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Black Rider wrote:IGWT is as much glam or more so then THWTD.
It is, however it's also better

It's a little poppy which holds it back imo.

by StevenCressler Yesterday at 2:59 pm

Black Rider wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Black Rider wrote:IGWT is as much glam or more so then THWTD.
It is, however it's also better
It's a little poppy which holds it back imo.

THWTD's ballads are better though they still aren't good

by petrafan007 Yesterday at 4:01 pm

Here's some for ya:

Brides's This is It through Tsar Bomba era was their best
My favorite Deliverance album is As Above, So Below
Tourniquet sounded their best in that very small window where they recorded those 3 killer tracks on Collected Works/Acoustic. I wish they continued in that vein and those songs were musically ahead of their time. Microscopic came close.
Kurt Bachman's voice sounds WAYYY better on Believer's newer stuff
Bloodgood went way downhill after David Zaffiro left
Vengeance Rising sucked after ... Vengeance Rising left (lol)
Extol is probably the most talented Christian extreme metal band of all time
Stryper's new stuff all sounds the same and Michael Sweet's solo stuff sounds way better
Whitecross's Equilibrium and Unveiled were just as good as their stuff with Rex Carroll
As much as I hate to admit it, WhiteHeart retired right at the right time.

by StevenCressler Yesterday at 4:30 pm

Did I already post in this thread that MVoaTR is my fav TQT album?

by Legitwafflez Yesterday at 5:01 pm

Oh man microscopic, it would've ranked higher for me but the vocals. Luke is a fine singer but his thrash vocals which are just talking fast almost kill it for me. But I do enjoy the playing and quite a few of the songs.

by StevenCressler Yesterday at 5:40 pm

Legitwafflez wrote:Oh man microscopic, it would've ranked higher for me but the vocals. Luke is a fine singer but his thrash vocals which are just talking fast almost kill it for me. But I do enjoy the playing and quite a few of the songs.

What's your favorite on it? Mine is Tomb of Gilgamesh (same with Pethead)

by Legitwafflez Yesterday at 5:47 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Legitwafflez wrote:Oh man microscopic, it would've ranked higher for me but the vocals. Luke is a fine singer but his thrash vocals which are just talking fast almost kill it for me. But I do enjoy the playing and quite a few of the songs.
What's your favorite on it? Mine is Tomb of Gilgamesh (same with Pethead)

I would go with Besprinkled followed by Tomb

by crucifyd Yesterday at 11:36 pm

Becoming The Archetype isn't metalcore.

Becoming The Archetype is too good to be metalcore...

by Christian Thrash Rules Today at 5:55 am

petrafan007 wrote:Here's some for ya:

Brides's This is It through Tsar Bomba era was their best
My favorite Deliverance album is As Above, So Below
Tourniquet sounded their best in that very small window where they recorded those 3 killer tracks on Collected Works/Acoustic. I wish they continued in that vein and those songs were musically ahead of their time. Microscopic came close.
Kurt Bachman's voice sounds WAYYY better on Believer's newer stuff
Bloodgood went way downhill after David Zaffiro left
Vengeance Rising sucked after ... Vengeance Rising left (lol)
Extol is probably the most talented Christian extreme metal band of all time
Stryper's new stuff all sounds the same and Michael Sweet's solo stuff sounds way better
Whitecross's Equilibrium and Unveiled were just as good as their stuff with Rex Carroll
As much as I hate to admit it, WhiteHeart retired right at the right time.

YES! FINALLY! RUTE wasn't bad as an album, but it's not VR. DC was just AWFUL

by Christian Thrash Rules Today at 6:05 am

I thought of another.

Four(or three, some people don't consider The Woods Will End You thrash) of the greatest Christian thrash albums released within the last 4-5 years

by Superjuice Today at 8:34 am

petrafan007 wrote:My favorite Deliverance album is As Above, So Below

Strong album, better than Assimilation

petrafan007 wrote:
As much as I hate to admit it, WhiteHeart retired right at the right time.

Concur. They did not wear out their welcome.

petrafan007 wrote:Kurt Bachman's voice sounds WAYYY better on Believer's newer stuff

Yeah, but the music's not.

petrafan007 wrote:Whitecross's Equilibrium and Unveiled were just as good as their stuff with Rex Carroll

Agreed, but they had nowhere to go but up or stay on the same level.

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