Big four poll

Exactly. Metallica is a shell of what they used to be and St. Anger is just garbage.

Even the black album is far inferior to the prior albums, and anything after the black album is just plain bad

seth wrote:Even the black album is far inferior to the prior albums, and anything after the black album is just plain bad

Even Death Magnetic?

Guitar Noir wrote:Got to go with Metallica. All four have great albums, but Metallica has proven to be most most consistent of the Big 4. The other 3 bands have many highs and lows.  Metallica have some dips in quality, but overall they have not been as drastic as the others.

I’d say St. Anger and LuLu were very drastic dips!

As far as consistency goes, Slayer only strayed from their formula once… on “Diabolus in Musica”.

I’ve made it through St. Canker Sore. I’ve never made it past one song of PuPu. 

They’re both awful. 

StevenCressler wrote:

seth wrote:Even the black album is far inferior to the prior albums, and anything after the black album is just plain bad

Even Death Magnetic?

I give Death Magnetic some major points for bringing back the aggressive energy, but TBA still had better overall lyrical integrity.

And nothing on DM is as good as “Sad But True” (one of their all time best songs).

TBA is a great album. Unfortunately it set them on a path from which they’ve never recovered.

I’ve found things to like on all the albums besides the two mentioned above. But they definitely fell farther than Slayer or Deth.

TZ75 wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

seth wrote:Even the black album is far inferior to the prior albums, and anything after the black album is just plain bad

Even Death Magnetic?

I give Death Magnetic some major points for bringing back the aggressive energy, but TBA still had better overall lyrical integrity.

Tbh, I really like most of later Metallica. I think the main reason most of it gets so much hate is because this is the same band that made the first 4/5 albums, so people expect better from them. (Besides St. Anger, which I don't think is as absolutely terrible as everyone says, does have terrible production and a snare drum that makes each song about half as good as they should be). And I don't really consider LuLu part of their official discography. They teamed up with Lou Reed to make a experimental side project that turned out terrible, but wasn't really an official album in either of their discographies.

Pethead wrote:TBA is a great album. Unfortunately it set them on a path from which they’ve never recovered.

I’ve found things to like on all the albums besides the two mentioned above. But they definitely fell farther than Slayer or Deth.

I agree. Enter Sandman, Wherever I May Roam, The Unforgiven... there's so many great songs on there. And I think there are good things about St. Anger (the riff on Some Kind of Monster, for example.) It's just ruined by bad production. Which sucks, because it's probably their heaviest album.

Sad But True is a heavy stomper like Pantera’s song Walk. Two of the greatest examples of “less is more”. 

I usually prefer the technical prowess side of thrash… but on occasion, a simplistic caveman approach is satisfying.

IYKYK

My favorite on TBA is actually Don’t Tread on Me.

Pethead wrote:My favorite on TBA is actually Don’t Tread on Me.

I'm a Yankees fan so Enter Sandman became my favorite.

TZ75 wrote:Sad But True is a heavy stomper like Pantera’s song Walk. Two of the greatest examples of “less is more”. 

I usually prefer the technical prowess side of thrash… but on occasion, a simplistic caveman approach is satisfying.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that one

On a side-note, how do you multi-quote? I see the buttons, but how do I actually put them in my reply?

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StevenCressler wrote:

TZ75 wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

seth wrote:Even the black album is far inferior to the prior albums, and anything after the black album is just plain bad

Even Death Magnetic?

I give Death Magnetic some major points for bringing back the aggressive energy, but TBA still had better overall lyrical integrity.

Tbh, I really like most of later Metallica. I think the main reason most of it gets so much hate is because this is the same band that made the first 4/5 albums, so people expect better from them. (Besides St. Anger, which I don't think is as absolutely terrible as everyone says, does have terrible production and a snare drum that makes each song about half as good as they should be). And I don't really consider LuLu part of their official discography. They teamed up with Lou Reed to make a experimental side project that turned out terrible, but wasn't really an official album in either of their discographies.

Metallica embrace LuLu like it’s one of their official releases. And St. Anger has a microscopic amount of good ideas. It’s not just the production… the lyrics are juvenile compared to the complex lyrical integrity Hetfield had on RTL to AJFA. 

“My lifestyle determines my death style” is an amusing lyric, but it still sounds cheesy when you think back to the deeper sophistication on AJFA. 

“Invisible Kid” sounds like a song title from the band Extreme.

StevenCressler wrote:

TZ75 wrote:Sad But True is a heavy stomper like Pantera’s song Walk. Two of the greatest examples of “less is more”. 

I usually prefer the technical prowess side of thrash… but on occasion, a simplistic caveman approach is satisfying.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that one

On a side-note, how do you multi-quote? I see the buttons, but how do I actually put them in my reply?

I’m not sure… I never have tried using it.

StevenCressler wrote:

Pethead wrote:My favorite on TBA is actually Don’t Tread on Me.

It was funny when I found out that name and symbol came from a Metallica song after hearing about it's political use

That name and symbol have been around a tad longer than Metallica.

Hetfield’s lyrical peak was AJfA by a mile. Starting with TBA he went downhill and has turned out some real doozies (Carpe Diem Baby comes to mind.)

Black Rider wrote:

It must’ve been tiring when he volunteered to be a human TV tray for his kid’s Harry Potter marathons.

Pethead wrote:Hetfield’s lyrical peak was AJfA by a mile. Starting with TBA he went downhill and has turned out some real doozies (Carpe Diem Baby comes to mind.)

Yep, every album got progressively better lyrically up to AJFA (which was the pinnacle).

Black Rider wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

Pethead wrote:My favorite on TBA is actually Don’t Tread on Me.

It was funny when I found out that name and symbol came from a Metallica song after hearing about it's political use

That name and symbol have been around a tad longer than Metallica.

Ah, so it was the other way around... got it, thanks.

TZ75 wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

TZ75 wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:

seth wrote:Even the black album is far inferior to the prior albums, and anything after the black album is just plain bad

Even Death Magnetic?

I give Death Magnetic some major points for bringing back the aggressive energy, but TBA still had better overall lyrical integrity.

Tbh, I really like most of later Metallica. I think the main reason most of it gets so much hate is because this is the same band that made the first 4/5 albums, so people expect better from them. (Besides St. Anger, which I don't think is as absolutely terrible as everyone says, does have terrible production and a snare drum that makes each song about half as good as they should be). And I don't really consider LuLu part of their official discography. They teamed up with Lou Reed to make a experimental side project that turned out terrible, but wasn't really an official album in either of their discographies.

Metallica embrace LuLu like it’s one of their official releases. And St. Anger has a microscopic amount of good ideas. It’s not just the production… the lyrics are juvenile compared to the complex lyrical integrity Hetfield had on RTL to AJFA. 

“My lifestyle determines my death style” is an amusing lyric, but it still sounds cheesy when you think back to the deeper sophistication on AJFA. 

“Invisible Kid” sounds like a song title from the band Extreme.

Yeah... I also haven't really listened to a full song from it yet, I just know it has some decent riffs with a bad sound to them.

Pethead wrote:Hetfield’s lyrical peak was AJfA by a mile. Starting with TBA he went downhill and has turned out some real doozies (Carpe Diem Baby comes to mind.)

Yeah, I think One probably has the best lyrics.