Kat Von D conversion to Christianity

you guys see or hear about this? I don't know much about the story at all, but I think she converted after she had her baby?

https://youtu.be/q95Dsn16uvU?si=9QHBxk7FSYX37kuu

If she did indeed accept Christ, praise God!

I was wary at first because of unfounded rumors like the supposed Marilyn Manson conversion. There’s no confession from him, or a public display (like the Kat Von D baptism video). I think I read that he said it’s “his business”… why would he hide it? He’s known for stirring up publicity.

I also saw where she blacked out her arms... what a shame. she's beautiful woman.

but, I'm glad she's in the Faith now although I can't seem to find what sort of church she goes to, etc.

I wish these kind of stories made front page news! But instead they are barely mentioned and almost hidden. 

Hopefully she becomes a shining light and good example to her fans. Seeds will be planted if she goes out and speaks openly about her conversion (like Brian “Head” Welch from Korn does).

TZ75 wrote:I wish these kind of stories made front page news! But instead they are barely mentioned and almost hidden. 

Hopefully she becomes a shining light and good example to her fans. Seeds will be planted if she goes out and speaks openly about her conversion (like Brian “Head” Welch from Korn does).

good point.

does anyone else have any details or more of a "scoop" on this story?

I had no idea who she was, but found this video:

If you go to her Instagram account, she posted a beautiful video of her getting baptized. She seems sincere in her faith. We are praising God for this.

deathisgain wrote:If you go to her Instagram account, she posted a beautiful video of her getting baptized. She seems sincere in her faith. We are praising God for this.

I agree! It's pretty cool!

Good for her! I'm glad she ditched all the occult, witchcraft, tarot stuff too! all that stuff is dark and toxic

What band is she in?

bodachi wrote:What band is she in?

She was a world famous tattoo artist.

Why not just let her grow and learn about her faith before we throw her out into the public to preach something she has only recently accepted?

Guenther321 wrote:Why not just let her grow and learn about her faith before we throw her out into the public to preach something she has only recently accepted?

When you have a public personality who posted about it on their public Instagram, that dog is gonna run whether we say anything here or not.  Apparently, she WANTED people to know about her conversion.  Why not honor and celebrate that another lost sheep has come home?

There’s no waiting period like that in the NT. The pattern is get saved, get baptized, proclaim Jesus.

Guenther321 wrote:Why not just let her grow and learn about her faith before we throw her out into the public to preach something she has only recently accepted?

I agree but I'm also glad she had the boldness to let everyone know... she's not teaching or disciplining other people. I'm proud for her. She's cool... I saw her once at a tattoo convention in Atlanta but I didn't speak to her or meet her. I read her book too.

she seems nice and polite.

I’m sure there are plenty of fellow believers and converted artist/musician celebrities that preceded her that she can lean on for advice. She could be the next person to join “The Whosoevers” ministry. Among people she probably knows very well like Head Welch and Sonny Sandoval.


She could help people get out of witchcraft from her experience. God has a plan for her.

Moved to the general section since she's not directly related to Christian metal (as far as I'm aware).  Carry on! 

Pethead wrote:There’s no waiting period like that in the NT. The pattern is get saved, get baptized, proclaim Jesus.

Pagans who wanted to become Christians had to go through at least a rudimentary catechesis before baptism (also, salvation does not come before baptism, sorry).

Not in the NT. (E.g. Philip and the Ethiopian Eunuch, although I’ll grant he was a proselyte to Judaism). But we have no waiting periods in the NT mandated for any convert, whatever their background.

I’m not really looking to debate the relationship of baptism to salvation. My point was simply that there is no NT command to force a waiting period for baptism and testimony.

For those interested:

https://www.daveblackonline.com/teach.htm

Theonymic wrote:

Pethead wrote:There’s no waiting period like that in the NT. The pattern is get saved, get baptized, proclaim Jesus.

Pagans who wanted to become Christians had to go through at least a rudimentary catechesis before baptism (also, salvation does not come before baptism, sorry).

Theonymic, just a quick question for clarity. 

If you’re saying that pagans need to undergo catechesis before baptism, but that baptism precedes salvation, are you saying their salvation is purposefully delayed until catechesis is complete?

Thanks, I’m more familiar with Roman Catholic theology than Orthodox, so I need clarity here.

Pethead wrote:I’m not really looking to debate the relationship of baptism to salvation. My point was simply that there is no NT command to force a waiting period for baptism and testimony.

There's no command to force a waiting period, for sure, but it's about instruction, not time. The Didache predates some books of the NT itself, which means that there was a need to circulate such instructional material very early on.

A great deal of the early converts were Judeans, Israelite diaspora (which might actually have included the Ethiopian eunuch), and pagan God-fearers, for all of whom less instruction would have been needed.

I haven't seen this woman's posts/videos, so I can't say much about her specifically, but in generally it's very important that a convert (or even someone who has been Christian for many years!) submit to a spiritual father in terms of what they should try to tell others about the faith.

I wouldn’t necessarily date the Didache before the NT, although it’s certainly very early.

I do agree that Christians of all levels should submit to others and continue to be trained. That’s one reason why I think the pattern of mission in Acts is to go out in at least pairs, if not larger groups.

My point in my initial post a few days ago was just that I don’t see it as wrong for her to immediately publicize her faith.

Pethead wrote:My point in my initial post a few days ago was just that I don’t see it as wrong for her to immediately publicize her faith.

If she's just saying "I've become a Christian," I'm wondering what the controversy would be.

I’m not sure all the details myself, I was just making a general comment.