A new Believer re-release are coming, but the label needs some help...

TZ75 wrote:if Believer was still together. 

MagnusPrime wrote:

TZ75 wrote:if Believer was still together. 

Pethead would probably like a boring song like that.

Pethead wrote:

MagnusPrime wrote:

TZ75 wrote:if Believer was still together. 

Pethead would probably like a boring song like that.

Only if it were called “If Believer WERE Still Together.”

Pethead wrote:

MagnusPrime wrote:

TZ75 wrote:if Believer was still together. 

Pethead would probably like a boring song like that.

Only if it were called “If Believer WERE Still Together.”

jaydeecrawson wrote:there is a live bootleg from that era that I used to have... maybe have been soundboard (ish) but it was still rough quality

I haven't heard it in years and years

Have no clue where to find it, but it's out there somewhere because I made CDR copies

An unauthorized bootleg with awful production value, hence why it is unauthorized.

xMetalMarkx wrote:There is a decent soundboard from Halloween 1989 that exists.  I know that the label has possession of a copy of it but I don't know what they plan to do with it, if anything?

Jetway777 wrote:

xMetalMarkx wrote:There is a decent soundboard from Halloween 1989 that exists.  I know that the label has possession of a copy of it but I don't know what they plan to do with it, if anything?

Never heard of that one before would LOVE to hear it someday?  ...I have full show of Believer @ Cornerstone 1990 that sounds pretty GOOD ...guitars are very loud and clear and upfront in the mix  , but its just an audience recording were a guy used a  very expensive stereo microphone plugged into a Sony walkman tape recorder.

Airola wrote:I wish stuff from this era would be officially released somewhere:



Yes, that IS Believer, believe or not.

It's almost like pre Cowboys from Hell era Pantera; the band doesn't want to talk about it and they seemingly aren't interested in releasing anything from that era.

Sometimes when I watch this video it's hard to believe that's THE Believer. Sometimes the white shirted guitarist looks like Kurt, sometimes he doesn't. I'm trying to see if the drummer looks like Joey but can't really ID him.

BUT! This show includes the instrumental song I.Y.F. which was released as a bonus song in Sanity Obscure's re-release. Ok, maybe the record label was confused and released a song by another Believer. It's an instrumental so there isn't Kurt's voice that would connect it to THE Believer 100% surely. Well, the same song was released in Believer's The Return demo from 1987, which also has the demo of Unite that was the opening track of Extraction from Mortality. So yeah, the band in the video is 100% THE Believer. Different singer and a bit more regular heavy metal stuff even though there's thrashy stuff and pure thrash in the set too. But it's THE Believer.

There was another band called Believer at the same time but the band in this video is not that. The song I.Y.F proves it 100%.

TZ75 wrote:

Airola wrote:I wish stuff from this era would be officially released somewhere:



Yes, that IS Believer, believe or not.

It's almost like pre Cowboys from Hell era Pantera; the band doesn't want to talk about it and they seemingly aren't interested in releasing anything from that era.

Sometimes when I watch this video it's hard to believe that's THE Believer. Sometimes the white shirted guitarist looks like Kurt, sometimes he doesn't. I'm trying to see if the drummer looks like Joey but can't really ID him.

BUT! This show includes the instrumental song I.Y.F. which was released as a bonus song in Sanity Obscure's re-release. Ok, maybe the record label was confused and released a song by another Believer. It's an instrumental so there isn't Kurt's voice that would connect it to THE Believer 100% surely. Well, the same song was released in Believer's The Return demo from 1987, which also has the demo of Unite that was the opening track of Extraction from Mortality. So yeah, the band in the video is 100% THE Believer. Different singer and a bit more regular heavy metal stuff even though there's thrashy stuff and pure thrash in the set too. But it's THE Believer.

There was another band called Believer at the same time but the band in this video is not that. The song I.Y.F proves it 100%.

The blonde vocalist looks similar to Mike Howe.

Airola wrote:

TZ75 wrote:

Airola wrote:I wish stuff from this era would be officially released somewhere:



Yes, that IS Believer, believe or not.

It's almost like pre Cowboys from Hell era Pantera; the band doesn't want to talk about it and they seemingly aren't interested in releasing anything from that era.

Sometimes when I watch this video it's hard to believe that's THE Believer. Sometimes the white shirted guitarist looks like Kurt, sometimes he doesn't. I'm trying to see if the drummer looks like Joey but can't really ID him.

BUT! This show includes the instrumental song I.Y.F. which was released as a bonus song in Sanity Obscure's re-release. Ok, maybe the record label was confused and released a song by another Believer. It's an instrumental so there isn't Kurt's voice that would connect it to THE Believer 100% surely. Well, the same song was released in Believer's The Return demo from 1987, which also has the demo of Unite that was the opening track of Extraction from Mortality. So yeah, the band in the video is 100% THE Believer. Different singer and a bit more regular heavy metal stuff even though there's thrashy stuff and pure thrash in the set too. But it's THE Believer.

There was another band called Believer at the same time but the band in this video is not that. The song I.Y.F proves it 100%.

The blonde vocalist looks similar to Mike Howe.

According to the comments on that video, the vocalist is Brian Nicarry who played guitar in Messiah Prophet.

When asked whether the members consider Believer a "Christian band" Daub replies in an interview with Metal Covenant in 2009: "Well, yes, and no... this is a difficult subject to approach for us. Ever since we formed Believer, Kurt Bachman and myself despised being limited to a certain belief or style of music. We did not like to be labeled or numbered. Whether it was our personal spiritual journey, or the type of music we played. We were called thrash, death metal, technical death metal etc. The key focus for us then and now is to just encourage people to think for themselves." Daub comments about the lyrics that "We always wrote about what was near and dear to our heart. On Extraction, we used Bible based themes and stories to express our intentions, but we did not want to preach."[32] "Well we never wanted to be known as a Christian band for one [laughs]. It was one of these things where it got out of control. With promoting records it was one of those things where the record company was like “Hey, here’s a slant. Something different. Something new and unique. Let’s go for that”. I’ve always tried to stay away from labeling the band. For me it’s a band, it’s entertainment. We even get called death metal some times even though I don’t think we resemble anything death metal-ish out there, but then again I have my own opinions on what death metal is. We just don’t want it to be one of those things where someone’s like “oh I hate thrash music, so I won’t like Believer”. You get labeled and we’re going to have to go through labels but we’re not really comfortable with any." says Bachman in an interview on MetalSucks.[33]]

Temple of Blood wrote:

When asked whether the members consider Believer a "Christian band" Daub replies in an interview with Metal Covenant in 2009: "Well, yes, and no... this is a difficult subject to approach for us. Ever since we formed Believer, Kurt Bachman and myself despised being limited to a certain belief or style of music. We did not like to be labeled or numbered. Whether it was our personal spiritual journey, or the type of music we played. We were called thrash, death metal, technical death metal etc. The key focus for us then and now is to just encourage people to think for themselves." Daub comments about the lyrics that "We always wrote about what was near and dear to our heart. On Extraction, we used Bible based themes and stories to express our intentions, but we did not want to preach."[32] "Well we never wanted to be known as a Christian band for one [laughs]. It was one of these things where it got out of control. With promoting records it was one of those things where the record company was like “Hey, here’s a slant. Something different. Something new and unique. Let’s go for that”. I’ve always tried to stay away from labeling the band. For me it’s a band, it’s entertainment. We even get called death metal some times even though I don’t think we resemble anything death metal-ish out there, but then again I have my own opinions on what death metal is. We just don’t want it to be one of those things where someone’s like “oh I hate thrash music, so I won’t like Believer”. You get labeled and we’re going to have to go through labels but we’re not really comfortable with any." says Bachman in an interview on MetalSucks.[33]]

Lex Metalis wrote:

Jetway777 wrote:

xMetalMarkx wrote:There is a decent soundboard from Halloween 1989 that exists.  I know that the label has possession of a copy of it but I don't know what they plan to do with it, if anything?

Never heard of that one before would LOVE to hear it someday?  ...I have full show of Believer @ Cornerstone 1990 that sounds pretty GOOD ...guitars are very loud and clear and upfront in the mix  , but its just an audience recording were a guy used a  very expensive stereo microphone plugged into a Sony walkman tape recorder.

seems like a good material to the bonus tracks of the upcoming rerelease,