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Post by Sevenoneself Mon May 29, 2023 11:02 am

Our polls can only have 10 items, so I've kept it to studio albums from Portnoy's era.
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Post by Sevenoneself Mon May 29, 2023 11:05 am

My picks were Train of Thought, Scenes from a Memory, and 6 degrees (although I really only mean the second disc). My opinion is that ToT and Scenes carry the most amount of emotional energy, although Images & Words comes close at times.
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Post by Black Rider Mon May 29, 2023 11:06 am

Train of Thought
I&W
Awake
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Post by Black Rider Mon May 29, 2023 11:12 am

I like Six Degrees but it's bloated.
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Post by Pethead Mon May 29, 2023 11:21 am

I haven’t listened to enough of these to form a strong opinion.
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Post by Sevenoneself Mon May 29, 2023 11:34 am

Black Rider wrote:Train of Thought
I&W
Awake

You like Awake? I might have to give it another spin. I was so disappointed with it that after 6 months or so I snapped the CD in half and trashed it.
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Post by Black Rider Mon May 29, 2023 11:50 am

I find it to be their most metal album after Train and it's production is as good as they've ever had. I was surprised how much it was trashed at the time of release but it's different than I&W and I think that disappointed people.
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Post by Pethead Mon May 29, 2023 11:52 am

Most metalheads I know love Awake. Maybe it’s been more positively assessed in recent years?

And who snaps a CD of perfectly good music in half, you monster????
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Post by Sevenoneself Mon May 29, 2023 12:07 pm

I've only snapped a few in my lifetime, so that gives an indication of how awful I think it is!

From my memory the production was thin. I had never heard Images and Words at the time so I didn't have that to compare it to.

Obviously we have differing opinions! I'll give it another spin in the next week or two. Because, Black, you're probably more correct than me--you've listened to ALOT more music and I agree with your opinions more than others.
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Post by Pethead Mon May 29, 2023 12:13 pm

I knew a friend of a friend who bought St. Anger when it was released, put it in his car CD player, and a few minutes later rolled down the window, ejected the CD, and threw it from his car.
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Post by Pethead Mon May 29, 2023 12:24 pm

Funny Dream Theater story: 

Years ago I was working security and was driving around to our properties. I was in one of the housing complexes and pulled up by the dumpsters. Lying in front of the dumpster on the ground was a sleeve of CDs someone had thrown away. Since it wasn’t in the dumpster, I flipped through it. I found little of interest, except for two CDs: Spock’s Beard’s V and DT’s Systematic Chaos. I snagged them and then told my boss in case the guy hadn’t meant to throw them away and came looking for them. Turns out the Spock’s Beard was a little too banged up to work, but the DT worked great.
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Post by Black Rider Mon May 29, 2023 12:52 pm

Sevenoneself wrote:I've only snapped a few in my lifetime, so that gives an indication of how awful I think it is!

From my memory the production was thin. I had never heard Images and Words at the time so I didn't have that to compare it to.

Obviously we have differing opinions! I'll give it another spin in the next week or two. Because, Black, you're probably more correct than me--you've listened to ALOT more music and I agree with your opinions more than others.

That's a lot of words to call me old. 😆
The production is more like the prog albums of old like Yes or Rush, let's the instruments breathe if that makes sense.
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Post by MagnusPrime Mon May 29, 2023 9:11 pm

1. Black Clouds & Silver Linings

2. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

3. Awake

DT were one of my absolute favorite bands for a long time. I'm still a big fan, but the songs/albums just don't seem to be as memorable/arranged as well since Portnoy left.
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Post by Sevenoneself Mon May 29, 2023 11:48 pm

Agreed. I honestly don't think it's because of Portnoy leaving, I think they were on that trajectory already. But it is noteworthy that the cut-off happened at his departure.
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Post by Mr. Nice Guy Wed May 31, 2023 6:40 am

My votes goes to Awake, Images and Words & Octavarium.
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Post by Superjuice Wed May 31, 2023 9:08 pm

Glad this poll only includes Portnoy stuff cuz I just haven't been able to get into the band since he left.  Having a tough time deciding which three - I got the first two as I&W and Metropolis, but the third could go to Octovarium, Awake, or even Six Degrees.  They all have their ups and downs. Awake seems to have the most good songs, but I love the epic track on Octavirium and the two rockers.  Six Degree has the amazing tracks The Great Debate and The Glass Prison: two of their best long tracks, but I don't care for the title track and all it's parts except for one. 

Oh wait, I forgot about Falling Into Infinity which is a personal fav.  The ballads are terribad but it has great epic songs (one with Doug Pinnick). There's good rockers, a killer instrumental, and the incomparable Peruvian Skies.  New Millennium might be their best, most inventive song.  That's the pick.

It seems like Mike Mangini is obsessed with being a great technical drummer but Portnoy is obsessed with rock music.  He just knows how to write songs and his side life is just being a fanboy to so many other bands in almost every genre of rock.
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Post by Sevenoneself Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:55 am

Superjuice wrote:Glad this poll only includes Portnoy stuff cuz I just haven't been able to get into the band since he left.  Having a tough time deciding which three - I got the first two as I&W and Metropolis, but the third could go to Octovarium, Awake, or even Six Degrees.  They all have their ups and downs. Awake seems to have the most good songs, but I love the epic track on Octavirium and the two rockers.  Six Degree has the amazing tracks The Great Debate and The Glass Prison: two of their best long tracks, but I don't care for the title track and all it's parts except for one. 

Oh wait, I forgot about Falling Into Infinity which is a personal fav.  The ballads are terribad but it has great epic songs (one with Doug Pinnick). There's good rockers, a killer instrumental, and the incomparable Peruvian Skies.  New Millennium might be their best, most inventive song.  That's the pick.

It seems like Mike Mangini is obsessed with being a great technical drummer but Portnoy is obsessed with rock music.  He just knows how to write songs and his side life is just being a fanboy to so many other bands in almost every genre of rock.
I might start a poll on individual songs sometime soon, b/c, like you've noted, there's good and not-so-good on every album. 

Doug Pinnick NAILED the vocals on Lines in the Sand. I have a hard time listening to it live b/c nobody sings it like him.

I also love the song Octavarium; I think it's one of their best mid-length concept songs. Have you seen the live version with the cartoon character animation during the crazy instrumental part near the end?

I like New Millennium b/c Myung plays a chapman stick on that song. Very cool.
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Post by TZ75 Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:31 am

Images and Words is the only one I like.
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Post by Superjuice Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:21 pm

Forgot one:

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Post by Sevenoneself Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:52 am

Superjuice wrote:Forgot one:

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Well darn it! I don't think I've listened to anything on this album other than the title track and I did totally forget it when creating the poll.
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Post by MagnusPrime Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:03 am

Sevenoneself wrote:
Superjuice wrote:Forgot one:

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Well darn it! I don't think I've listened to anything on this album other than the title track and I did totally forget it when creating the poll.
I've always considered it an EP.
It's basically just a 23 minute studio track with some live cover songs tacked on.
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Post by Follower of Jesus Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:21 am

TZ75 wrote:Images and Words is the only one I like.

Yup. Me too.
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Post by oldschooldoom Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:17 am

I saw DT last week. I sorely miss Mike's charm

Images & Words will always be my fave DT album
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Post by Sevenoneself Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:18 pm

oldschooldoom wrote:I saw DT last week. I sorely miss Mike's charm

Images & Words will always be my fave DT album

I watched part of that bootleg you posted. Looked generic and toned down (small drumset, no amps on stage, etc.). There were only a few songs on the setlist that excited me. So I won't be going to the concert that's near me (3.5 hrs away is near to me).
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Post by oldschooldoom Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:29 pm

Sevenoneself wrote:
oldschooldoom wrote:I saw DT last week. I sorely miss Mike's charm

Images & Words will always be my fave DT album

I watched part of that bootleg you posted. Looked generic and toned down (small drumset, no amps on stage, etc.). There were only a few songs on the setlist that excited me. So I won't be going to the concert that's near me (3.5 hrs away is near to me).
I was underwhelmed. But I did stand and record PULL ME UNDER
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