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Post by ReedBenson Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:10 am

Anyone know of any rock and/or metal bands whose members subscribe to Reformed (Calvinist) theology? The only two I know are Precious Death and Lovewar. A guy at my church says he actually became Reformed through reading Precious Death's lyrics. He also told me that he thinks Wolves at the Gate are Reformed, but he's not sure. 

P.S., I'm not looking to start any theological debates or say non-Reformed people aren't saved or anything. Please don't fight!

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Post by Pethead Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:11 am

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Post by Sevenoneself Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:07 pm

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Post by ReedBenson Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:14 pm


Oops, I guess I should have done a search before posting. My bad. Thank you!

And, what do you know? The friend I was talking about happens to be on this forum and in that thread. Small world.

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Post by Kerrick Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:16 pm

"Interesting" is one word for it!   Monkey Biz face palm

Even though we do technically have another thread of the same subject, I'm quite content in letting that one drift into nothingness and have a fresh start here since that one was such a dumpster fire.

Some that come to mind:

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Post by Kerrick Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:51 pm

Ooh I forgot Sorrowstorm!

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Post by Kerrick Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:08 pm

I should add Jonova.
https://thecharoncollective.bandcamp.com/album/even-death-will-die

Though after reading this from Seth of BTA, I don't think I'd include them on this list:

Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/

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Post by Frozen Fire Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:34 pm

Kerrick wrote:I should add Jonova.
https://thecharoncollective.bandcamp.com/album/even-death-will-die

Though after reading this from Seth of BTA, I don't think I'd include them on this list:

Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/
I only thought of Jason in a reformed regard but even there I never got those impressions from the albums, just people. For me it is just solid Bible based concepts.
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Post by Pethead Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:37 pm

Kerrick wrote:I should add Jonova.
https://thecharoncollective.bandcamp.com/album/even-death-will-die

Though after reading this from Seth of BTA, I don't think I'd include them on this list:

Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/
That’s problematic. I’m not a classical Calvinist, but I have serious problems with the way he frames those statements.
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Post by CrimsonWarrior Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:14 pm

Pethead wrote:
Kerrick wrote:I should add Jonova.
https://thecharoncollective.bandcamp.com/album/even-death-will-die

Though after reading this from Seth of BTA, I don't think I'd include them on this list:

Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/
That’s problematic. I’m not a classical Calvinist, but I have serious problems with the way he frames those statements.
I am a Calvinist, and I take issue with it too. Seth's statement is heretical and makes it clear that he does not believe in God. If God is not all-powerful, God is not God. He wouldn't be able to create the world and everything in it. He wouldn't be able to declare what is good and what is evil, and carry out his vengeance against evil. Anyone who believes the Bible disagrees with Seth. I guess BtA is a secular band then, and my AotY 2022 is now Blood Moon Rising.

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Post by Black Rider Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:32 pm

You don't have to be Calvinist to know that statement is not Biblical. What the crap, does anyone in Christian rock not hold heretical beliefs.
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Post by Pethead Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:34 pm

Black Rider wrote:You don't have to be Calvinist to know that statement is not Biblical. What the crap, does anyone in Christian rock not hold heretical beliefs.
Matt Smith?
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Post by Black Rider Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:35 pm

Most likely. My statement was mostly hyperbole but so many seem to wander off.
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Post by Pethead Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:36 pm

Black Rider wrote:Most likely. My statement was mostly hyperbole but so many seem to wander off.
So true. If it’s not outright apostasy, it’s at least heterodoxy. Sometimes it makes me want to just switch to secular music exclusively.
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Post by Black Rider Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:46 pm

Right? I know where Immolation stand. 😆
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Post by Constantine Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:07 pm



Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://wgobbledygookww.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/
Egads, this is like gobbledygook from the Church of Woke.
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Post by scottmitchell74 Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:34 pm

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Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://wgobbledygookww.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/
Egads, this is like gobbledygook from the Church of Woke.
I'm afraid to read it! I get so much from BTA.
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Post by Pethead Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:37 pm

It reads to me like some sort of unholy hybrid of process theology and liberation theology.
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Post by bodachi Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:22 am

Stryper reformed in 2003 after a decade-long hiatus.
I would also add As I Lay Dying, I believe Tim Lambesis came out of prison reformed.
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Post by Raegoul Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:17 am

Bummer about BtA.
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Post by Frozen Fire Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:28 am

Constantine wrote:


Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://wgobbledygookww.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/
Egads, this is like gobbledygook from the Church of Woke.
Interestingly, Seth is a Lutheran pastor. How interesting and sad that people sit under such teaching.
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Post by Pethead Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:17 am

Frozen Fire wrote:
Constantine wrote:


Seth (BTA) wrote:What keeps me in the faith is a complex mixture of things. My hope in a God is not, however, based on the idea of governance. Imo, God can be good or all-powerful. Not both (for lots of logistical reasons). I believe in a good God, so there would be no governing of extremes and everything in between, but instead a Kenosis, an emptying of oneself of power/agency/glory to instead live in solidarity with the weak/poor/powerless/outcast.

https://wgobbledygookww.reddit.com/r/Metalcore/comments/zzh6e1/ama_seth_of_becoming_the_archetype/
Egads, this is like gobbledygook from the Church of Woke.
Interestingly, Seth is a Lutheran pastor. How interesting and sad that people sit under such teaching.
I saw that. He’s in one of the liberal Lutheran denominations.
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Post by Black Rider Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:49 am

Now I want to know where Jason stands?
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Post by Temple of Blood Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:00 pm

Gobbledygook music and theology go hand-in-hand.  Both are products of a gobbledygook mind.
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Post by bodachi Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:15 pm

Black Rider wrote:Now I want to know where Jason stands?
I think in Atlanta. He probably sits there, as well
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