Is Dale Thompson overexposed?

Temple of Blood wrote:Anyone who puts out a ton of music in a short amount of time I question how hard they are working on the actual songwriting, arranging, and editing.

Music is a competition for people's time and ears.  It's not a race to see who can upload the most music to Spotify.

Trust us, we know you believe in an entirely different approach. Your actions (or lack thereof) speaks for itself. Lol

zelote wrote:LexMetalis, I am from Peru.

Great... brazilian guy here...

eatbugs wrote:

I get the impression he's a hired gun for most of the projects and not heavily involved in songwriting and production.

I see what you did there, LOL HIRED GUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Plq3M2I5qc

oldschooldoom wrote:

eatbugs wrote:

I get the impression he's a hired gun for most of the projects and not heavily involved in songwriting and production.

I see what you did there, LOL HIRED GUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Plq3M2I5qc

I didn't see this coming, hahaha

LexMetalis wrote:

oldschooldoom wrote:

eatbugs wrote:

I get the impression he's a hired gun for most of the projects and not heavily involved in songwriting and production.

I see what you did there, LOL HIRED GUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Plq3M2I5qc

I didn't see this coming, hahaha

I guess they pay him lots of money for what he does...

Frozen Fire wrote:On this topic, it's like Rob Rock with Angelica, Joshua, Rob Rock Warrior, Driver, Axel Rudi Pell, Impellitteri, etc. Rob Rock has a voice for melodic metal so all the bands he has done vocals for generally have a similar style.

Yeah, but Rob Rock's projects are generally good (sounds like you agree).

I like the first three Bride albums but have no interest in anything related to Dale Thompson after that. I've sampled some of these myriad albums he's been on recently and they're all boring. I would guess that Rob Rock is more involved in the projects he's in whereas Dale was literally advertising on Facebook groups to sing on people's music for a small fee.

The cost for a well known singer to sing on an album is $10K. That depends on the singer. I asked a Christian musician once and that was what he said for one singer. I'm not a Bride fan or a Dale Thompson fan but if I were, I would only buy the Bride albums. If I'm into a main group, I usually stick to that main group's projects. I don;t have the time or money to be buying the side projects for every band that does that for some of it's members. 

I had 3 of the John Schlitt's solo albums and sold them where they are too inconsistent ranging from pop and light rock to hard rock. The same with Greg Volz - I don't have any of his solo music as well even though he is an incredible singer. I stick to the Petra, Classic Petra, CPR and 2 Guys from Petra albums. That's enough for me. I have the Union of Saints and Sinners album on order and I'll give it a try to see how I feel. 

For Whitecross, I stick with their music and I have the first King James and Maximus albums. Don't care for the Scott Wenzel and Rex Carrol side projects and the second King James album is horrible - had it and sold it. 

For Michael Sweet, I follow Stryer, his side projects and his solo stuff. His solo music and side projects ranges from average to really good.

For Rob Rock, I follow Impellitteri and his solo music. For his side projects, my least favorite is Fires of Babylon - I find that album hard to get into. 

For Rez, I like most of their music and have all of their music. I was never a fan of Glenn Kaiser solo stuff or the GK Band. 

I'm glad Rob Rock and Michael Sweet is easier to follow to keep track of their projects than Dale Thompson. Michael puts out 1 of 2 projects a year. I didn't know Dale released 12 the past year. 

When you think about it, some bands wait 2-6 or more years to release anything (MASS, Impellitteri, Deliverance) and artists like Michael Sweet and Dale Thompson release a lot in a shorter time period. Many artists have full time jobs and record music and rehearse when they get the chance. Others have lots of money and recording isn't a necessity to make money to pay the bills are retired and have more time to devote to music or music is their full time job.

I just think side projects are a bad idea in general. I'm not sure I've ever enjoyed anyone's side project.

Soldier777 wrote:

I had 3 of the John Schlitt's solo albums and sold them where they are too inconsistent ranging from pop and light rock to hard rock. THe same with Greg Volz - I don't have any of his solo music as well even though he is an incredible singer. I stick to the Petra, Classic Petra, CPR and 2 Guys from Petra albums. That's enough for me. I have the Union of Saints and Sinners album on order and I'll give it a try to see how I feel. 

I love the first two John Schlitt albums, as well as a couple of the Volz albums, much more than 2 Guys from Petra (which I was disappointed in, as I wanted original material. I feel the same way about Revival.

Curious to see how you like Union. It didn’t do much for me, but there are good songs on it. It was also a blast to hear John sing one of my WhiteHeart favorites (Independence Day).

Is DT overexposed?

Is the Pope a Jesuit? 

Pethead wrote:

LexMetalis wrote:

oldschooldoom wrote:

eatbugs wrote:

I get the impression he's a hired gun for most of the projects and not heavily involved in songwriting and production.

I see what you did there, LOL HIRED GUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Plq3M2I5qc

I didn't see this coming, hahaha

I guess they pay him lots of money for what he does...

He's a dancer, midnight romancer, under the moon...

BaleMaster wrote:Is DT overexposed?

Is the Pope a Jesuit? 

I had to search, TBH hahaha

Thank you LexMetalis for expressing what most of us have been thinking. Dale has always been and still has a great voice.

Reminds me of Eddie Van Halen being scolded for playing for free on his friend Michael Jackson's BEAT IT. Eddie just loved to play guitar. He basically responded to Van Halen management, do not tell me when or for whom I play guitar for, you're fired! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhZcru-z6rI

oldschooldoom wrote:Thank you LexMetalis for expressing what most of us have been thinking. Dale has always been and still has a great voice.

You're welcomo bro...

Bride is one of my favorite bands and I love each age, some more than the others, but I listen to all albuns with no problem.

About the 'hired gun life' of Dale, the 1st album of Perpetual Paranoia was a massive impact to me. "Dreams Before The Nightmare" IMO have one of the best vocal lines ever recored by Dale, but every time I blink a new project or a new album it's announced and seems that the argument of "the mighthy Dale Thompson will record with us" loss power. 

On the firsts bands/projects/album "wow, Dale will record with this guys, maybe something good came"... now is "another album with Dale? I'm pass..."

Is a different approach to when I hear that Rob Rock or Christian Liljegren announce another band/project/album. They seem to sound more consistent in quality

I would prefer that he would focus more on Bride and maybe in just one side project. But he probably needs the money and I can't blame him to do what he do...

Side projects and solo albums have their place if the sound is significantly different from the main band.

Again, I question how many of these are true side projects and how many are "hired gun/session musician" projects by other bands.  Case in point: Dominus Meus I was already released as an album when that guy hired Dale and made it "re-vocalized."  Because of this a project I would never have heard of or spent money on now has my cash.

Yes, I do think "the mighty Dale Thompson will record with us" lost power.

This is also a telling statement about Dale, Bride, and music in general.  I say "hired gun" and we immediately start quoting song lyrics from 30 years ago.  Had I said "Dale puts out music with demon speed" how many would recognize a song title from Here Is Your God?  How many could quote lyrics?  It's not a knock on Dale or anyone he's played with.  Had The World Will Burn come out in 1990, they would be classics and Girder would be releasing it in their Legends... series, but because those CDs came out within the last few years we overlook them.  The market is too saturated.

AlanTWWB, if you're reading this your comments would be interesting.

TBH I should probably check out more of these projects. I've always thought he was a good singer but didn't care for Bride much.

Anyone who would post their favorite songs from any of these, it would be appreciated.

I give credit to anyone who can make money in this current music industry. What he is doing is no different than what Ripper Owens is doing, and I don't remember him being faulted for that when Ted K. hired him.

Ripper does too much but can still sing.

I also find The Thomas Thompson Earth Project really interesting.

I love METAL ! I love the Live to die album - I love Thrash  - I love the good old times.

 Dale is a phenomenal singer and still nails it.
 In Germany he is little known. These three got very good reviews and press here.

TOB I was gonna recommend you some songs from Adorned Graves as well.  I never bothered with anything Dale just because of his theology, but the guest vocals he did on the latest AG album sound mighty good to my ears!  It's a great album through and through.

The interesting thing about the work with AG, which I enjoy, Dales sounds a lot like Ripper. Makes me wonder what effects are on the vocals?

zelote wrote:Here is a list of bands of Dale Thompson sings for.


1.    Bride
2.    The World Will Burn
3.    No Other God
4.    Perpetual Paranoia
5.    The Thomas Thompson Earth Project
6.    Swingle and Thompson Ordaneid
7.    Haunted No More
8.    We are Resolute
9.    Iron 501
10. Dominus Meus
11. Dabster Gentleman
12. Sovereign Cross

13. Dale Thompson and the Boon Dogs

Thanks LexMetalis i forgot that one.

My answer to the original question: yes, absolutely. I don’t understand it either. I don’t really care for his voice anymore. Everything he sings on seems to have the vocals processed. He doesn’t sound like the same singer from back in the day. When I see he’s the singer on any project, I tend to move on.