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John R Butler's "Hand of the Almighty"

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Post by ThomasEversole Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:03 pm

I actually rather enjoyed this, but the question I want to ask... would you consider this Christian music?
Warning: lolprofanity


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Post by eatbugs Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:21 am

I listened to exactly 36 seconds of that before I had to stop (take note of his profanity warning people).

I know nothing about John R. Butler or the rest of the song.  Is it sung sincerely or is that sarcasm or parody?  The answer goes a long way to my answer.

My two cents on "Is ________ a Christian band?" questions is that it is a continuum.  There are ministry-oriented bands, there are Christians-in-a-band, there are some-members-are-Christians, there are bands were the singer who writes the songs is a Christian so the lyrics are Christian-ish (or at least clean) but the rest of the band aren't Christians.  Depending on the context I could call many things Christian or not.

I personally have standards in the music I can buy so the threads on "Is ________ Christian?" matter to me.  Dogmatic yes, no, or who cares answers don't do the gray area bands justice.

Personally I will never buy John R. Butler music for the profanity, even IF I liked the music (I don't) or IF it is sung sincerely.

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Post by ThomasEversole Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:36 am

I like you criteria regarding defining Christian music. I personally think listener interpretation can easily trump artist intentions though.

I think I'm more intrigued at recoiling from words enough to stop the video. ...but I'm not one to hold as much weight to cursing. Ever watch a DVD that has French audio? Depending on the movie, it might not sound much different than this John R Butler's track.

It's funny to me how society has planted within us to have emotional responses to these sounds...
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Post by alldatndensum Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:50 am

If you check out his website, Butler seems to be a lot more about comedy than about truly singing for the Lord.  In that context, this just comes off as disrespectful, in poor taste, and dare I say sacrilegious.

This just reminds me of a bluegrass Sam Kinison.
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Post by Xid Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:22 am

I won't listen to because of the profanity warning.  If one has to resort to profanity in their lyrics then they aren't much of a lyricist in my opinion.
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