Movie sequels that were better than the original

by Guest Mon May 11, 2015 2:52 pm

My son and I were trying to think of one, and we were mostly drawing a blank. I was going to say that there are better James Bond movies than Dr No, or better Godzilla movies than the original 1954, but those aren't really "sequels" as they generally are all self contained movies with little or now connection to previous films in the series.

I did come up with 1....

"Terminator 2: Judgment Day" was far better than the original "The Terminator"

Can you think of any others?

by Athanasius Mon May 11, 2015 3:50 pm

Definitely agree about Terminator 2. Makes the first one seem boring by comparison.

My picks:

The Empire Strikes Back
Spiderman 2
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Dark Knight
The Two Towers
The Return of the King
Superman II

by Hardcore Christian Mon May 11, 2015 4:15 pm

Dang it I was going to say

The Empire Strikes Back
The Dark Knight
The Wrath Of Khan

also:
The Road Warrior
Batman Returns (close to the original people count it as better)
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Rush Hour 2

by Kerrick Mon May 11, 2015 4:26 pm

I like the first Terminator more than the second... I like how the subject matter is full-on sci-fi, though the movie is totally a horror/slasher film at its core. I liked how dark and brooding it was. T2 was a big budget, crowd-pleasing summer blockbuster. It was indeed a good movie, but I just find the first one a bit more enjoyable.

by Athanasius Mon May 11, 2015 4:28 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:Dang it I was going to say

The Empire Strikes Back
The Dark Knight
The Wrath Of Khan

also:
The Road Warrior
Batman Returns (close to the original people count it as better)
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Rush Hour 2

I didn't like Batman Returns that much. It wasn't a bad movie, but it was a bit too cartoonish for my tastes much of the time. DeVito makes a good Penguin though.

I would tend to agree about The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, except I'm unsure if it should be considered a sequel.

by metaldude Mon May 11, 2015 4:30 pm

Although I disagree, many think The Godfather Part 2 was better. I found this poll on IMDb.

http://m.imdb.com/poll/bZtI0jH5cqg/

by Guest Mon May 11, 2015 4:41 pm

Some really good selections by all of you...

Kerrick, I agree that the original Terminator was darker and more sci-fi/slasher (still like T2 better though)

by WildWorld Mon May 11, 2015 4:42 pm

Dawn of the Dead
X-Men 2

by Guest Mon May 11, 2015 4:44 pm

I thought Addams Family Values (1993) was better than The Addams Family (1991)

by Athanasius Mon May 11, 2015 4:49 pm

Kerrick wrote:I like the first Terminator more than the second... I like how the subject matter is full-on sci-fi, though the movie is totally a horror/slasher film at its core.

That's true now that I think about it. Maybe that's part of why I didn't like it as much ..... I'm just not that big on those kinds of movies. But also I felt the subject matter cried out for that big-budget action movie treatment.

by Hardcore Christian Mon May 11, 2015 4:50 pm

Verbum Lux wrote:I didn't like Batman Returns that much. It wasn't a bad movie, but it was a bit too cartoonish for my tastes much of the time. DeVito makes a good Penguin though.

I would tend to agree about The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, except I'm unsure if it should be considered a sequel.

Batman Returns? cartoonish?

Compared to Forever and Batman And Robin this is like rated R lol

I disliked DeVito

but enjoyed Pfeiffer tongue

I liked the first Batman best because of Nicholson's Joker

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is the third movie of a trilogy which I also just found out lol!

by Guest Mon May 11, 2015 5:57 pm

Boondock Saints 2
Red 2
Beverly Hills Cop 2
Charlies Angels 2:Full Throttle
Iron Man 2
Transporter 2
Desperado
Rooster Cogburn
Magnum Force

by DarkFireDragoon Mon May 11, 2015 7:32 pm

Good picks thus far. Several that I was thinking. Twisted Evil

Another that instantly came to mind...

Evil Dead 2.

by KaramKaram Mon May 11, 2015 9:29 pm

For me the recent installment of Robocop is by far better than all of the others combined

by Hardcore Christian Mon May 11, 2015 10:27 pm

KaramKaram wrote:For me the recent installment of Robocop is by far better than all of the others combined

But the first is a gore filled classic Very Happy

by Guest Tue May 12, 2015 9:39 am

savage amusement wrote:
Beverly Hills Cop 2

Iron Man 2

I thought the first Iron Man was better, but IM 2 was ok. So many places say IM 3 was the best but I thought it was horrible.

Beverly Hills Cop, the first one, is one of my favorite movies of all time

by Guest Tue May 12, 2015 10:04 am

Hardcore Christian wrote:
Verbum Lux wrote:I didn't like Batman Returns that much. It wasn't a bad movie, but it was a bit too cartoonish for my tastes much of the time. DeVito makes a good Penguin though.

I would tend to agree about The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, except I'm unsure if it should be considered a sequel.
Batman Returns? cartoonish?

Compared to Forever and Batman And Robin this is like rated R lol

I disliked DeVito

but enjoyed Pfeiffer

I liked the first Batman best because of Nicholson's Joker

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is the third movie of a trilogy which I also just found out

Yeah, HC, I liked the first Batman the best...by far...

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is easily the best of the trilogy

by Athanasius Tue May 12, 2015 11:52 am

Hardcore Christian wrote:Batman Returns? cartoonish?

Compared to Forever and Batman And Robin this is like rated R lol

I disliked DeVito

but enjoyed Pfeiffer

I liked the first Batman best because of Nicholson's Joker

Well, yeah, compared to what came after..... Smile

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe the it's not so much cartoonish as it was a little too Burton-esqe, if you catch my meeting. Not knocking the guy or his style, but think there was a bit too much of in the sequel for a Batman film. Or at least what I like in a Batman Film.

savage amusement wrote:Rooster Cogburn

I really should see that, since True Grit was awesome.

by Staybrite Tue May 12, 2015 12:31 pm

Interesting thread, and I find myself agreeing with several these especially this one.

Hardcore Christian wrote:The Road Warrior

The Road Warrior was vastly superior to Mad Max. Not just because of the bigger budget but pretty much everything else seemed better: storyline, acting, directing, music.
However, the third filme "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" was certainly not as good as "The Road Warrior"

by Kerrick Tue May 12, 2015 12:48 pm

savage amusement wrote:Boondock Saints 2
Desperado
Magnum Force

Boondock Saints 2?!? No way! The first was WAY better!!! The second one got off to a real rocky start but I felt by the end, it had "found itself" and became a pretty decent flick. Gosh, my friends in high school and college would watch that movie over and over again. I could probably still quote that entire flick haha. Can't say I've had any yearnings to watch it again lately though.

I'll agree with you on Desperado. I really enjoyed Once Upon A Time In Mexico a lot too. Back in high school, I used to love flicks like those. I've seen most all of Robert Rodriguez's films. Nowadays my tastes in movies are a bit different, but I can still appreciate those from time to time.

Gosh I don't know about Magnum Force... It is really good indeed, though I think I still prefer the original Dirty Harry. Those were definitely the best of the lot though. The other three were entertaining but not near as good.

Staybrite wrote:Interesting thread, and I find myself agreeing with several these especially this one.

Hardcore Christian wrote:The Road Warrior

The Road Warrior was vastly superior to Mad Max. Not just because of the bigger budget but pretty much everything else seemed better: storyline, acting, directing, music.
However, the third filme "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" was certainly not as good as "The Road Warrior"

I thought the original Mad Max had its charm for sure, but yeah, The Road Warrior by far trumps it. That being said, the new Mad Max has the potential to blow both of them out of the water. (And yes, Beyond Thunderdome sucked majorly!)

by Hardcore Christian Tue May 12, 2015 7:03 pm

Staybrite wrote:However, the third film "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" was certainly not as good as "The Road Warrior"

Yes true that

by Grindboy Tue May 12, 2015 9:50 pm

If I had to take one of the Terminators, it would have to be 2 -- but I agree that the original was different but very strong on it's own merit. I feel exactly the same about Alien/Aliens, actually. Aliens is an action classic and one of my all-time favorites, it would have to be the pick. But Alien was great suspense/thriller/horror that couldn't have been much better.

SHOCKED to see Rush Hour 2 and Iron Man 2 as being preferred to the originals. Especially Iron Man, which is probably the movie I've enjoyed the most from the last 10 years. Of course, I don't really enjoy movies generally any more, most of the time, and watch very few.

by Guest Tue May 12, 2015 10:03 pm

Home Alone 2 > Home Alone

National Lampoons Christmas Vacation > National Lampoons Vacation

by Guest Tue May 12, 2015 10:05 pm

Men In Black II > Men In Black

by Athanasius Wed May 13, 2015 9:55 pm

NoOneIsHere wrote:National Lampoons Christmas Vacation > National Lampoons Vacation

Agreed.

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