Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
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Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Black Rider Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:52 pm
Neon Cross. Second album is awful and he sounds drunk on vocals.
Jesus Freaks. Might be better with better production but I wasn't excited about the new direction.
Jesus Freaks. Might be better with better production but I wasn't excited about the new direction.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Kerrick Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:57 pm
Lengsel and Sanctifica come to mind. I do enjoy their second albums for what they are (Lengsel more so than Sanctifica), though both those bands' debuts are really something special that the follow-ups couldn't touch.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:00 pm
Armageddon. Love The Money Mask, but wasn’t big on Up in Flames.
Final Axe. The debut is a scorcher. The follow-up has some good tunes but is kinda meh in comparison.
Living Sacrifice. I actually like most of their stuff to varying degrees, but oh, how I wish they’d have stuck to the Slayer sound. (As does Kerrick).
Final Axe. The debut is a scorcher. The follow-up has some good tunes but is kinda meh in comparison.
Living Sacrifice. I actually like most of their stuff to varying degrees, but oh, how I wish they’d have stuck to the Slayer sound. (As does Kerrick).
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Kerrick Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:02 pm
Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:16 pm
I really like their debut but found the follow-up a letdown. I never checked out the third album. Their covers album was good.Kerrick wrote:Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Ammocas Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:22 pm
Stryper
lol…just kidding
lol…just kidding
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Kerrick Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:26 pm
Pethead wrote:I really like their debut but found the follow-up a letdown. I never checked out the third album. Their covers album was good.Kerrick wrote:Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.
IMO their third album is much better than their second. It's a solid album and worth giving a try!
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by MagnusPrime Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:37 pm
I know everyone here will agree when I say Deliverance and Mortification.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:34 pm
People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:37 pm
Last Train = hair metal's #1 albumPethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:38 pm
It’s not even their #1 album!StevenCressler wrote:Last Train = hair metal's #1 albumPethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Lex Metalis Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:43 pm
Pethead wrote:I really like their debut but found the follow-up a letdown. I never checked out the third album. Their covers album was good.Kerrick wrote:Also, Dynasty went for a bit crunchier, more hard-rock approach with their follow-ups which isn't bad, but I do much prefer their debut that's more akin to early Angra.
Hope that you like
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:44 pm
But it is!Pethead wrote:It’s not even their #1 album!StevenCressler wrote:Last Train = hair metal's #1 albumPethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Black Rider Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:46 pm
Gen Z kids, know better than their elders. 
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by Pro-Zak Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:46 pm
Black Rider wrote:Neon Cross. Second album is awful and he sounds drunk on vocals.
Jesus Freaks. Might be better with better production but I wasn't excited about the new direction.
I prefer "Killdozer Metal!"
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:47 pm
StevenCressler wrote:But it is!Pethead wrote:It’s not even their #1 album!StevenCressler wrote:Last Train = hair metal's #1 albumPethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:49 pm
I'm Gen Z, which is even worse lolBlack Rider wrote:Gen X kids, know better than their elders.
See? I knew better there
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by seth Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:57 pm
Isn’t gen X the one right after baby boomers?
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:01 pm
I’m a gen 1 guy.
Wait, sorry, I thought we were talking about Pokémon.
Wait, sorry, I thought we were talking about Pokémon.
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by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:34 pm
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Pethead Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:38 pm
Boomers
Gen X
Millennials
Gen Z
Alpha (I think. What a misnomer)
Gen X
Millennials
Gen Z
Alpha (I think. What a misnomer)
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by seth Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:40 pm
Yeah Alpha is the youngest now. Hopefully they don’t call the next one Gen Beta…
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Ammocas Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:42 pm
He’s too young to remember that moviePethead wrote:StevenCressler wrote:But it is!Pethead wrote:It’s not even their #1 album!StevenCressler wrote:Last Train = hair metal's #1 albumPethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by StevenCressler Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:47 pm
Whaddya mean? Isn't that Star Wars: The Next Generation?Ammocas wrote:He’s too young to remember that moviePethead wrote:StevenCressler wrote:But it is!Pethead wrote:It’s not even their #1 album!StevenCressler wrote:Last Train = hair metal's #1 albumPethead wrote:People here will hate me, but I think Last Train is a step down from the debut. The title track and Hallow’s Eve are awesome, and I like a few other songs, but the debut crushes it.
X-Sinner. Get It is a classic. Peace Treaty is largely forgettable.
Try rebutting that one, Pethead. That's undeniable proof!
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Re: Bands who had a good debut than botched it.
by Constantine Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:31 pm
Recon. They botched it because they didn't make a 2nd album! 
More seriously, I agree with most of the suggestions and would add Vengeance Rising.
I just don't find much to like after Human Sacrifice
More seriously, I agree with most of the suggestions and would add Vengeance Rising.
I just don't find much to like after Human Sacrifice
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