Antithesis or Teramaze?

by Pethead Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:05 pm

Which band do you prefer and why?

by Constantine Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:24 pm

Teramaze is WAY more musically sophisticated than Antithesis.
That said I do not consider either a "Christian band."

by Pethead Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:03 pm

Yeah, if anyone needs to move this to the other forum, no worries. I put it here because I usually see both bands lumped in with Christian bands. But I agree their lyrics are not very clear.

That being said, I went with Antithesis. I like the intensity of their music combined with the melody. The musicianship is INSANE. But I like both bands a lot.

What's funny is that I usually hear Doxology as being a "thrashy" album, but I find Antithesis's first two albums to be far "thrashier" than Doxology.

by mothy Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:58 pm

I would consider Teramaze (1st 2 releases and maybe the 3rd) to be Christian but they are no longer labeled that way.

As far as the poll not should I could pick, especially since each of their first 2 releases were so good. I would put Teramaze more in the Power/Prog with thrash influences.

by Temple of Blood Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:44 pm

Antithesis by a mile!

by average joe Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:30 am

Dying for Life v Doxology should be the question.

by Black Rider Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:15 am

Doxology had thrashy elements but is a power progressive metal album imo. Voted Antithesis as I prefer their albums.

by Constantine Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:38 am

Everyone here seems to be equating Teramaze with Doxology, maybe because that was their Christian album? Because their more recent material is miles apart from that. It's very, very different.

If the poll is really Doxology vs. whatever from Antithesis, I'd change my vote to Antithesis. But if it's Antithesis vs. the entire catalog of Teramaze, I'd stick with Teramaze.

I feel like this poll may have gone in a direction that was not intended...? Not sure but it seems like it if Teramaze is being evaluated on one early album.

by Pethead Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:56 am

Personally, I was evaluating both bands on the albums I have:

Antithesis and Dying for Life

Doxology and Anhedonia

I really like all those albums.

by Pethead Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:00 am

average joe wrote:Dying for Life v Doxology should be the question.

I prefer Antithesis’ debut over Dying for Life, although both are great.

by Constantine Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:24 am

Esoteric Symbolism, Her Halo, and I Wonder by far blow away anything Teramaze did in the past (well maybe with the exception of the song "Shadows"). But again, they are very different, and again, they are not Christian albums.

by Pethead Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:52 am

Constantine wrote:Esoteric Symbolism, Her Halo, and I Wonder by far blow away anything Teramaze did in the past (well maybe with the exception of the song "Shadows"). But again, they are very different, and again, they are not Christian albums.

I might check those out. So many albums, so little money Guitar guy

by Constantine Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:39 am

Just listen to them first on You Tube or Spotify to see if you like them.

by mothy Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:53 am

Does anyone know where the Antithesis got labeled a Christian band? I know the lyrics are on the vague side. Did any members say they are Christians or something

by Pethead Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:05 pm

Constantine wrote:Just listen to them first on You Tube or Spotify to see if you like them.

I prefer to go in more blind. It's more fun that way Very Happy

by Pethead Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:07 pm

mothy wrote:Does anyone know where the Antithesis got labeled a Christian band? I know the lyrics are on the vague side. Did any members say they are Christians or something

No idea, I've just always seen them referred to that way. I know AngelicWarlord has reviewed Dying for Life, and metal-archives lists their lyrical themes as "Christianity, life experiences, positivity." I do think there are hints of Christianity in the lyrics. (In the case of Limbo, Catholicism).

by mothy Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:52 pm

Pethead wrote:
mothy wrote:Does anyone know where the Antithesis got labeled a Christian band? I know the lyrics are on the vague side. Did any members say they are Christians or something
No idea, I've just always seen them referred to that way. I know AngelicWarlord has reviewed Dying for Life, and metal-archives lists their lyrical themes as "Christianity, life experiences, positivity." I do think there are hints of Christianity in the lyrics. (In the case of Limbo, Catholicism).

Yeah Im in the same boat as you. I went off of those sources and didnt see or hear anything bad in the lyrics. I won the whole discog and dont regret it just curious.

by Pethead Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:19 pm

mothy wrote:
Pethead wrote:
mothy wrote:Does anyone know where the Antithesis got labeled a Christian band? I know the lyrics are on the vague side. Did any members say they are Christians or something
No idea, I've just always seen them referred to that way. I know AngelicWarlord has reviewed Dying for Life, and metal-archives lists their lyrical themes as "Christianity, life experiences, positivity." I do think there are hints of Christianity in the lyrics. (In the case of Limbo, Catholicism).
Yeah Im in the same boat as you. I went off of those sources and didnt see or hear anything bad in the lyrics. I won the whole discog and dont regret it just curious.

Exactly. I listen to some secular music, so I appreciate most that’s at least “Christian-friendly.” But I bought Antithesis because I thought they were a more straightforward Christian band. But no biggie, because the music shreds.

by mothy Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:50 pm

In an old Whipping Post review of Dying life it does state:

"The band is embraced by many in the Christian metal scene, but the band does NOT claim to be a Christian band. The lyrics deal with a lot of spiritual things, but that is not the whole of the band. Regardless, the lyrics are very well written and a very good read."

by Temple of Blood Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:35 pm

When James Lewis played in Temple of Blood he thought of Antithesis as a Christian band. He told me also that every member was a Christian.

And Teramaze's last few albums are horrible generic "metal" bereft of character or good ideas.

by Pethead Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:39 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:When James Lewis played in Temple of Blood he thought of Antithesis as a Christian band. He told me also that every member was a Christian.

Good to know. Thanks, ToB!

by alldatndensum Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:19 am

I like the first few Teramaze albums but not their more recent stuff.

I couldn't get into Antithesis.

So, I voted for Teramaze.

by Frozen Fire Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:26 am

As a northeast Ohio guy I rooted for Antithesis. I really enjoyed the self-titled (Limbo and The Web are total classic songs) and went to the CD release party for Dying For Life in Cleveland. James, their bass player, was talented and a super nice guy, "Krusty" their drummer was part of an online community I was part of and Ty had some really dynamic vocals (a mini-Russel Allen). That all seems kind of random but I thought they had a lot going for them with one exception, at that point Euro-power metal was all the rage and beyond Iced Earth and Jag Panzer the U.S. seen didn't have much going for it on the world market and had very little support at home. It was an uphill battle for bands coming on before the internet exploded. By the time Dreaming Reality came out they weren't really active in a real way, James and Ty were gone, the moment passed by and very few in the communities I was a part of knew it came out. Great band that in different times may have and should have become much bigger.

On the other hand, for Teramaze I only had their album Tears to Dust back then. It was fine but didn't have the teeth to it that I wanted. Maybe a false impression of that album since it's been years since I listened to it but I thought of it as a less interesting mid-period Fates Warning. I knew I'd like Doxology more but could never find it. When Anhedonia came out I picked it up and enjoyed it but the spiritual content wasn't really there. I never really kept up with them afterward but have enjoyed everything I heard. For some reason Dean has a reputation for being impossible to work with but he certainly is an amazing talent.

In the end, though I may like Teramaze more if I picked up all their material, Antithesis gets my vote.

by Temple of Blood Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:42 pm

I think more folks would've come around to Antithesis if they had stuck around longer, played more fests, and just released more albums in that same style. Their style was never trendy but they were a cut above just about everyone else at that time.

When they lost their main songwriter, it was over and I don't think that 3rd album even sounded like the same band though it had a couple of the same members.

by Temple of Blood Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:17 pm

mothy wrote:Does anyone know where the Antithesis got labeled a Christian band? I know the lyrics are on the vague side. Did any members say they are Christians or something

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