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Post by crucifyd Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:18 am

piggybacking on the other thread...

Mini-LP sleeve peeves:

- tends to scuff the CD when removed/put back in

- can be way too tight and a pain to get the CD in/out

- can be way too loose and CD can fall out when you aren't quite paying enough attention or if you store them "spine out" CD can easily fall out when pulling off shelf

- repeating what I said about digipak, OCD talking here, when you store them
everything is not the same size, as the vast majority are jewel boxes, AAAAAHHHH!!!!


I have to confess, as much as I don't like Mini-LP sleeves, I hate them a little less than I used to... you see I had heard the term but never made the connection to "carboard sleeves" and that they look amazingly like a vinyl record. kind of embarrassing that I never realized that until somebody mentioned it, here I think, a few weeks ago... Embarassed


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Post by Staybrite Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:16 pm

I have like 3 or four of these.  Obviously from that last thread I am not a fan.  They never fit in the sleeve well (most or all of mine are too tight).  I bought one brand new and the disc was already scuffed (probably just from being inserted into the sleeve).  It played fine though so I didn't return it.  Also far too thin to find quickly in a large stack or collection of cds.  I thought I had lost one once, and it was just sandwiched in between a jewel case and digipack so that it wasn't even noticeable.
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Post by Constantine Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:21 am

I no longer have any but agree that they are terrible.  
I dare say, they are worse than the digipacks.
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:10 am

I really like them for the simple reason that I can buy 10 cd's instead of 2 and my wife is none the wiser.

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Post by eatbugs Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:05 am

Erasmus wrote:I really like them for the simple reason that I can buy 10 cd's instead of 2 and my wife is none the wiser.

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Smartest guy in the room right here!

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Post by alldatndensum Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:43 am

As far as from an artist's point of view, they are extremely for us to have manufactured.  If you don't have a huge fanbase, having physical product manufactured at all can be a risk.  On my last blues/rock album, I have sold very few CDs.  I have had more interest in the digital side.  I have sold enough downloads to cover the costs of the CDs, but I have a box of them sitting at the house that I will probably end up either giving away or tossing in the trash.  I don't know if I will ever print another CD.
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Post by crucifyd Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:09 am

alldatndensum wrote:I don't know if I will ever print another CD.

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Post by alldatndensum Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:09 am

crucifyd wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:I don't know if I will ever print another CD.

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I didn't say I would never record another album.  I just don't sell enough physical product to make it worth my time to be honest.
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Post by /< Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:14 pm

I have the Yes Studio Albums '69 - '87 box set.  Every disc comes flying out of the mini-LP sleeves like a frisbee.
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Post by crucifyd Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:34 pm

alldatndensum wrote:
crucifyd wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:I don't know if I will ever print another CD.

Sad


I didn't say I would never record another album.  I just don't sell enough physical product to make it worth my time to be honest.

I know, I was just goofin' with ya...   ; )
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Post by Staybrite Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:52 pm

alldatndensum wrote:As far as from an artist's point of view, they are extremely for us to have manufactured.  If you don't have a huge fanbase, having physical product manufactured at all can be a risk.  On my last blues/rock album, I have sold very few CDs.  I have had more interest in the digital side.  I have sold enough downloads to cover the costs of the CDs, but I have a box of them sitting at the house that I will probably end up either giving away or tossing in the trash.  I don't know if I will ever print another CD.

Print on demand?
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Post by crucifyd Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:23 pm

Staybrite wrote:Print on demand?

CDr? that sounds like another "Hate" thread...  Very Happy
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Post by Staybrite Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:43 pm

crucifyd wrote:
Staybrite wrote:Print on demand?

CDr? that sounds like another "Hate" thread...  Very Happy

I'm probably the minority but I would much rather have a professionally recorded CDr in a jewel case than a silver disc in a cardboard sleeve or a crappy quality digi-pack.
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Post by deathisgain Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:10 pm

alldatndensum wrote:As far as from an artist's point of view, they are extremely for us to have manufactured.  If you don't have a huge fanbase, having physical product manufactured at all can be a risk.  On my last blues/rock album, I have sold very few CDs.  I have had more interest in the digital side.  I have sold enough downloads to cover the costs of the CDs, but I have a box of them sitting at the house that I will probably end up either giving away or tossing in the trash.  I don't know if I will ever print another CD.

Now think about labels that print up 1,000 and have them sitting in a garage somewhere.
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Post by eatbugs Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:12 am

crucifyd wrote:
Staybrite wrote:Print on demand?

CDr? that sounds like another "Hate" thread...  Very Happy

It depends.  for someone like alldat I'd prefer a CDr to no CD at all.  For a label like Retroactive or Roxx it would be disappointing.

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Post by alldatndensum Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:18 am

eatbugs wrote:
crucifyd wrote:
Staybrite wrote:Print on demand?

CDr? that sounds like another "Hate" thread...  Very Happy

It depends.  for someone like alldat I'd prefer a CDr to no CD at all.  For a label like Retroactive or Roxx it would be disappointing.



When I do new music, and I am writing stuff now, most of what I do will be downloads.  If I do CDs, it would be a limited run of 50 with CD-Rs in cardboard sleeves.  If I thought full packaging would actually help the disc to sell, I might go that route, but I just don't see doing that again.  Like I said, I have sold more downloads of the last two blues albums than I did physical product.
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Post by crucifyd Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:14 am

eatbugs wrote:It depends.  for someone like alldat I'd prefer a CDr to no CD at all.  For a label like Retroactive or Roxx it would be disappointing.

yeah, I'd agree w/that...

I rip all my CDs so most of my CDr hate is the fact that about 85% of the time they are at best a royal pain to get a good rip from. at worst it is impossible...
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Post by grandeped Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:08 am

I just generally support bands doing whatever is best for their product and what will sell for them. If physical product doesn't sell, then don't waste time with it. People that refuse to buy downloads because they demand CDs are just hurting themselves and the band, because literally no one else cares. They don't get to hear the music, and the band makes less money. To me, you are not a true fan of a band if you refuse to get their music for some irrelevant reason like "no downloads!"

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Post by Staybrite Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:01 pm

I've purchased downloads from bands that didn't create physical cds.  If I like the band I want their music.  I would just prefer to have it on a cd, but if all I can get is MP3 or FLAC, I will take it.
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