Mad At the World - Love and Despair Kickstarter

alldatndensum wrote:I am both excited and reluctant to support this.  I would love a new MATW record, but Randy always goes YEARS over his estimations for Kickstarters.

deathisgain wrote:[see original post for Kickstarter link]

Looks like the second Mad At the World Kickstarter is about to get going.

Frozen Fire wrote:I prefer Mad At The World to Rose overall. However, I'm not into the new wave style of the early material and didn't back that album.

This being the rock album, I'm interested. It is funded now anyway. I supported it because I'd buy it myself anyway and the cost will be the same either way. In supporting it, like any Kickstarter I expect a large delay. I'd love to take someone's word but the artists are relying on more than just themselves to get the product out. There are too many variables. They all come late. If it is here in the calendar year I will be amazed! I'm not usually a pessimist but with Kickstarters I am. I've waited years several times.

eatbugs wrote:Wow.  They did something like $5000 in 24 hours.  I'm a last minute backer and I didn't think they would make it.

ccmrockman wrote:

Frozen Fire wrote:I prefer Mad At The World to Rose overall. However, I'm not into the new wave style of the early material and didn't back that album.

This being the rock album, I'm interested. It is funded now anyway. I supported it because I'd buy it myself anyway and the cost will be the same either way. In supporting it, like any Kickstarter I expect a large delay. I'd love to take someone's word but the artists are relying on more than just themselves to get the product out. There are too many variables. They all come late. If it is here in the calendar year I will be amazed! I'm not usually a pessimist but with Kickstarters I am. I've waited years several times.

Yes, I prefer MATW to Rose, too.  I've only liked MATW enough to put in my main collection.  And Kickstarter is always a roll of the dice, of course, especially albums that are not fully written yet.  I've been jilted on two Kickstarters...out of 23 completed campaigns so far, and this MATW one would be 24 if it funds.   On one of the two bad ones (a previous album reissue project), I never got all of what I pledged for, and the artist was selling extra copies online, so they obviously had some, but in effect refused to respond to my request for fulfillment when I had contacted them multiple times to say I had not received my pledged copy.  The other one was a hit and run where the artist never finished their end and appears to have slunk off with their loot after multiple years of no updates.  But nothing like that has ever been the case with a MATW or Rose KS that I've heard about...with the exception of the last Rose one that took 4 years instead of the usual ?2?.  He's probably going to have to lower his fundraising expectations for his next solo record.  And artists all know it would come back to bite them if they appear to intentionally screw over any of their KS pledgers, so those who are serious about leaving future crowdfunding options open will do whatever they reasonably can for customer satisfaction.

I'm hoping the new MATW songs are already mostly written...or perhaps they think they are almost finished being written at this point, enough to give them confidence they will complete their end on their anticipated time frame.  So long as they keep supporters updated on what's going on, usually minor delays in media preparation are not as discouraging to supporters as taking multiple month/years beyond the "expected" time frame to finish the artists' end writing, recording and finalizing of the album.

And one final reminder is that KS is not eBay, and the campaign is not technically "funded" until it's over without any major funders backing out unexpectedly.  That won't happen on this one for a few more hours from the posting of this note.

strangerhoncho wrote:

eatbugs wrote:Wow.  They did something like $5000 in 24 hours.  I'm a last minute backer and I didn't think they would make it.

Well, it was the one "producer but not a producer" backer for $5K that did it.  And I'm pretty sure that was them or someone they got to do that, to make it happen.  It's a way to ensure a campaign gets funded if it's not going to meet its goal.

I'm glad it's going to happen, though.  Should be good.

deathisgain wrote:I'm surprised.  I didn't think it was going to make it, but I had a feeling the Producer was an ace up the sleeve to get it over the hump if they could get it to the $15k mark. I'm thinking it might be the same person that helped with a large chuck of change to get Rose's last album out.