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Post by P86ninja Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:52 pm

I'm digging it! Song is solid and the video makes it even better! Love the old school vibe!

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Post by Kerrick Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:12 pm

I listened to the first bit but it is just not my style at all.  Is POD still a Christian band?  For some reason I thought I heard that they were not, but admittedly I don't keep very close tabs on them.

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Post by P86ninja Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:55 pm

Kerrick wrote:I listened to the first bit but it is just not my style at all.  Is POD still a Christian band?  For some reason I thought I heard that they were not, but admittedly I don't keep very close tabs on them.


I'm pretty sure that they are even though many of their songs do not have blatantly Christian lyrics. Also, Sonny (the singer) is still very active in different types of ministry including The Whosoevers.

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Post by KaramKaram Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:01 pm

The band itself does not adhere to Christian beliefs, but its members individually follow the Christian faith; two different things. Nice article from 2020
https://hmmagazine.com/feature/sonny-sandoval-of-pod/
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Post by Kerrick Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:03 pm

Right on, thanks!

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Post by Black Rider Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:30 pm

Are they still mixing Rasta beliefs in there? I never understood why they got a pass to use Jah and have pictures of Rasta Jesus in the mix.
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Post by KaramKaram Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:44 pm

Black Rider wrote:Are they still mixing Rasta beliefs in there? I never understood why they got a pass to use Jah and have pictures of Rasta Jesus in the mix.
To the best of my knowledge, they have abandoned their Rasta beliefs.
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Post by L8T Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:57 pm

It sounds like P.O.D. to me, so, I like it.
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Post by TZ75 Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:01 am

Not my favorite band, but I enjoy some of their tunes. Their albums “Brown” and Satellite are probably still the best (in my opinion).

I think the new song is good.
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Post by TZ75 Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:07 am

I have only seen POD once in concert. They opened for Primus.
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Post by Guenther321 Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:50 pm

Black Rider wrote:Are they still mixing Rasta beliefs in there? I never understood why they got a pass to use Jah and have pictures of Rasta Jesus in the mix.
Depending on the translation you use, Psalms 68:4 has "Jah".  It's in the KJV.

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Post by Pethead Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:00 pm

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Post by zelote Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:38 pm

I like POD but don't like this song a lot; it is repetitive. Just my opinion.

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Post by Black Rider Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:50 am

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Black Rider wrote:Are they still mixing Rasta beliefs in there? I never understood why they got a pass to use Jah and have pictures of Rasta Jesus in the mix.
Depending on the translation you use, Psalms 68:4 has "Jah".  It's in the KJ.
POD defended using it, saying Rastas believe in the same God as Christians which is categorically false. The KJV was most likely using this in poetic form.
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Post by Guenther321 Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:08 am

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Black Rider wrote:Are they still mixing Rasta beliefs in there? I never understood why they got a pass to use Jah and have pictures of Rasta Jesus in the mix.
Depending on the translation you use, Psalms 68:4 has "Jah".  It's in the KJ.
POD defended using it, saying Rastas believe in the same God as Christians which is categorically false. The KJV was most likely using this in poetic form.
I wouldn't call that a Rasta belief...to my knowledge they don't believe they worship the same God.  

Also, poetic or not, it is given as a name for God in the Chriatian Bible and predates the entire Rasta religion, so I see no issue with a Christian using it.

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Post by Black Rider Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:18 am

Using Jah and having Rasta Jesus in your artwork is syncretism. Obviously Rastas don't believe they worship the same God but POD was defending mixing Rasta beliefs by saying they do. I'm not going to talk about this anymore but it's crazy how Christians will turn a blind eye to to this kind of thing.
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Post by Guenther321 Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:03 am

Black Rider wrote:Using Jah and having Rasta Jesus in your artwork is syncretism. Obviously Rastas don't believe they worship the same God but POD was defending mixing Rasta beliefs by saying they do. I'm not going to talk about this anymore but it's crazy how Christians will turn a blind eye to to this kind of thing.
I agree with everything you said after "using Jah".  If it's in the Bible, Christians can use it no problem.  Other than that, there are a lot of discussions about what Jesus would have looked like historically.  Honestly I don't see Rasta Jesus as being any worse than White Medieval Jesus.

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Post by Drawnsword Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:14 am

Jesus and the true Israelites were / are black, and some grew there natural locks. The J was invented by some scribes its actually Yah (psalm 68;4) which is short for Yahua.
I've never seen any rasta beliefs with POD, they just speak a bit of the reggae lingo that's prevalent in the scene and culture there apart of.
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Post by Constantine Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:20 pm

Must have missed this thread.  I like the "Drop" song a lot.

The new one is okay, but sounds like they're just using the song-writing blueprint from the Satellite" album.

I don't really consider them a "Christian band" though, I put them in the same category as U2 or Lenny Kravitz - i.e. there may be some degree of faith in the artist(s) but the song lyrics and image are all over the place.
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Post by MagnusPrime Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:10 pm

Drawnsword wrote:Jesus and the true Israelites were / are black

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Post by Pethead Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:14 pm

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Drawnsword wrote:Jesus and the true Israelites were / are black

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I was wondering if someone was gonna comment on that...
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Post by seth Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Lol I thought about commenting but I have better things to do with my life than get in an argument about Jesus’s race
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Post by TZ75 Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:02 pm

Pethead wrote:
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Drawnsword wrote:Jesus and the true Israelites were / are black

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I was wondering if someone was gonna comment on that...


The majority of people from the Middle East have a similar look (olive skin to medium dark brown). 

Not European white, or African black. 

I would estimate that Jesus looked close to an Iraqi person. Of coarse I could be wrong… but most of the people alive today (in that region) probably look the same as people 2000 years ago.
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