Preterist - CANCELED preorder campaign (update)

I thought it would be a good idea to make a separate topic of this for higher visibility. I'll also include the youtube video with the full album in case you people need more convincing  


I'm not sure how it works for funders from the USA though; are the shipping costs included there as well? Don't know yet, but I asked.

I bought it digitally a while ago, but I really hope this does well. It’s a fantastic album!

Nice!  I saw this on FB.  I tried to pre-order but got a server error once I click on "view cart."  Anyone else getting that too?

Same here, I just asked about it on facebook

He fixed it.    The CD has been ordered!  And yup, the 20 EUR includes shipping to the US.

I had ordered this but was refunded my order today. An explanation was sent through PayPal for why, at this time, there will be no physical release.

Here's the explanation video:

I appreciate his honesty and that must be very disappointing for him.

It's very difficult to navigate today's music business, especially when most conventional wisdom is out of date and/or idiotic.

I hope he continues and succeeds despite these current setbacks.

Dangit, that is very disappointing indeed!  Well since my pre-order got cancelled along with the others, I'll pony up and buy it digitally in the near future.  I just wish he had other options than Amazon and iTunes.  For anyone interested, here are links for purchasing/listening:

https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/preterist/blood-moon-rising-2

Oh, no.  I pre-ordered it.  It sounded awesome. 

Disappointing but makes sense.  He's right that without playing live and building a following, it is hard to move physical merchandise.

Too bad because it is a great album.  Far worse albums get released every day so it doesn't seem fair.
But this is the way the music industry goes, I've seen it play out this way for decades.

I hate that it’s not happening, but I encourage everyone to get it digitally. It’s fantastic and easily worth your money.

Kerrick wrote:Dangit, that is very disappointing indeed!  Well since my pre-order got cancelled along with the others, I'll pony up and buy it digitally in the near future.  I just wish he had other options than Amazon and iTunes.  For anyone interested, here are links for purchasing/listening:

https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/preterist/blood-moon-rising-2

It's on YouTube Music also.

I've got mine from amazon.  It's a brilliant album, for sure.

Pethead wrote:I hate that it’s not happening, but I encourage everyone to get it digitally. It’s fantastic and easily worth your money.

I'm making an exception and will buy it digitally.

Sad news, but I understand it as I don’t buy CD’s anymore these days. Everything seems to be on Youtube for free. Can someone explain why is that? Seems like all bands are putting their stuff for free on Youtube. Does that really generate enough of income for the bands?

It’s also sad that it’s so hard for Martin Simson to put out his stuff. The two singles are good stuff imo, I packed for that project actually because I really wanted to hear rest of the songs (+ some new Rob Rock.)

Btw, in his video it’s seems on the background he is playing an unreleased Preterist song (half of it). Could someone handy mix it up

jusma wrote:Sad news, but I understand it as I don’t buy CD’s anymore these days. Everything seems to be on Youtube for free. Can someone explain why is that? Seems like all bands are putting their stuff for free on Youtube. Does that really generate enough of income for the bands?

That's a great question.

Yes, it doesn't make sense for many people to buy music when the whole album is available on Spotify or YouTube.

Also, it's hard to ask people to pay for your album when many other albums in your genre are up completely for free somewhere, even if yours isn't.

When you release your album digitally for sale to places like iTunes/Amazon, they also have a checkbox that says something vague like "Would you like to release your music to all places to generate revenue?".  Most people check "yes", as I did with our first album.  What it means is, "Would you like to give away your entire album to all streaming platforms including YouTube for next to nothing?"  No, it doesn't generate much more income than Spotify.  Not even enough to pay a new pack of strings for your guitar.

Musicians are not good at business, are easily deceived, and better wise up quick.  Even touring is in serious jeopardy.

I really hope Preterist isn't a one and done project.

Temple of Blood wrote:

jusma wrote:Sad news, but I understand it as I don’t buy CD’s anymore these days. Everything seems to be on Youtube for free. Can someone explain why is that? Seems like all bands are putting their stuff for free on Youtube. Does that really generate enough of income for the bands?

When you release your album digitally for sale to places like iTunes/Amazon, they also have a checkbox that says something vague like "Would you like to release your music to all places to generate revenue?".  Most people check "yes", as I did with our first album.  What it means is, "Would you like to give away your entire album to all streaming platforms including YouTube for next to nothing?" 

That probably explains something. But still I scratch my head because it’s so easy to listen pretty much all the music I want legally for free.

Pethead wrote:I really hope Preterist isn't a one and done project.

No, he says he will continue to make music but as a hobby and not a profession.
He doesn't want to be a starving artist but still loves making music.

Constantine wrote:

Pethead wrote:I really hope Preterist isn't a one and done project.

No, he says he will continue to make music but as a hobby and not a profession.
He doesn't want to be a starving artist but still loves making music.

Right, but he said he didn't know if there would be another Preterist album. Just because he's going to keep making music doesn't mean there will be another Preterist record in the same style.

Pethead wrote:I really hope Preterist isn't a one and done project.

I kinda asked him about that just recently on FB and he said he has a lot of songs/ideas he could/ would like to record. So there is hope.

Constantine wrote:

Pethead wrote:I really hope Preterist isn't a one and done project.

No, he says he will continue to make music but as a hobby and not a profession.
He doesn't want to be a starving artist but still loves making music.

I doubt he ever believed releasing Preterist albums would be his profession.  

Literally no new metal bands who start in 2022 will be able to do that.

In the video, he simply talked about breaking even from just the CD pressing.  That was a reasonable goal.

jusma wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

jusma wrote:Sad news, but I understand it as I don’t buy CD’s anymore these days. Everything seems to be on Youtube for free. Can someone explain why is that? Seems like all bands are putting their stuff for free on Youtube. Does that really generate enough of income for the bands?

When you release your album digitally for sale to places like iTunes/Amazon, they also have a checkbox that says something vague like "Would you like to release your music to all places to generate revenue?".  Most people check "yes", as I did with our first album.  What it means is, "Would you like to give away your entire album to all streaming platforms including YouTube for next to nothing?" 

That probably explains something. But still I scratch my head because it’s so easy to listen pretty much all the music I want legally for free.

That explains the low quality of new metal albums, and why most people just want to talk about old classic metal albums.

"Let's just hurry up and make a new album so we can tour and sell t-shirts on the road."

I find more quality metal albums today than I used to. Sure, there's a lot of sub par stuff but there always was, now, bands can get music out while not being beholden to a label that rips you off which seemed to happen a lot in Christian music. I think a big issue is the amount of entertainment vying for our dollar has grown immensely.