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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:15 pm

sentient 6 wrote:It doesn't bother anyone that this is ( in essence ) the same concept as THWTD ? Plus, its a similar concept as the last album.

Stryper it seems, is in a creative rut.

It is definitely weird stuff.

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Post by Gipperman on Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:45 pm

Hey Mortal,

What's weird is people like you who can't find anything better to do with their time. Yes the song is about Satan and yes I say/sing "you". And the problem is??? The problem is that you want to make it an issue because you don't like anything we do. You've made that clear. I wish I had the time to go searching for forums just to write about the issues I have with other bands/people. What a fulfilling life that would be. It would bring me so much pleasure just as I'm sure it does you. If you don't like what we do and your not a fan, be assertive and just say it. Don't tip toe around trying to make nothing into something. It's been done a million times and in a much more unique and original fashion.

We're very happy with this album and I believe our true fans will be too:-)

Shame on you.......

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:57 pm

Shame on me for not being a Stryper fan....Yep, that's right...although I don't see any shame in it.

I'm not into the whole fanboy thing either. I do see shame in that.

Here's the thing...It's not that I'm not a Stryper fan, or that I don't like anything you do.

It's not even about Stryper. Please don't tell me that are unable to understand that.

So...Mortal isn't a fanboy...that's ok...isn't it?

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Post by bodachi on Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:01 pm

"If you can't say anything nice..."

Seems to me that folks think an interwebs forum is a place to tell everyone what they don't like.

Let's say, hypothetically, for the sake of argument:  someone starts a thread about the new Tourniquet album.  The first three people to reply are stoked.  Then a guy says "I don't like them because x."  Argument ensues, insults lobbed, thread locked.  Thanks, troll - you ruined everyone else's good time because you HAD to share your views, unrelated to the original post.
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Post by bodachi on Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:02 pm

Mortal wrote:...Shame on me for not being a Stryper fan...
So...why would you post on a Stryper thread...?

To ruin everyone else's fun?
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:05 pm

If we are going to have a "no theology talk" rule here at CMR, why can't we have a "no raging fanboyism" rule too?

I don't see why one should have to remain silent while the other runs rampant.

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:08 pm

bodachi wrote:
Mortal wrote:...Shame on me for not being a Stryper fan...
So...why would you post on a Stryper thread...?

To ruin everyone else's fun?

Obviously. You caught me red handed. I feel so ashamed.

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Post by KaramKaram on Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:11 pm

[adm]GET BACK ON TOPIC[/adm]

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Post by KaramKaram on Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:15 pm

Mortal wrote:If we are going to have a "no theology talk" rule here at CMR, why can't we have a "no raging fanboyism" rule too?
Because you don't dictate the rules here.

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Post by KaramKaram on Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:44 pm

Warnings have been sent 

Let's move on!

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Post by Throne of thorns on Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:15 pm

lol!
metaldude wrote:Anyone notice that the ones who don't really like the artwork are the ones who listen to bands with tree root logos? Razz
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Post by Friday13th on Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:59 pm

"Fallen" is a great song, Michael. Thumbs up Can't wait!  Metal 3
face palm ...and more people trippin' on literary points of view. I recall people saying "I AM" by Theocracy was blasphemous because it's about God from a first person perspective. Neutral  *sigh* I don't envy the backlash artists suffer just for making good art.
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Post by ludey7 on Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:18 pm

I'll never understand why being a huge fan - or "fan boy" -
Is deemed bad. Stryper is just consistently great and have a following that fits a strong body of work. The new single follows Yahweh in being a really good song and this fan boy can't wait to hear the next one.

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Post by Candlemass on Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:39 pm

What's going on here, is Gipperman singing love songs to Satan?! Shocked
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:46 pm

The new song is great...


and thank you Kerrick for the conversation we had. You were right

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:06 am

I'll never understand why being a huge fan - or "fan boy" -
Is deemed bad.

Being a fanboy isn't bad in itself.

But when individual thought is drowned out by fanboys, it becomes a problem.

When fanboys adopt the "You aint from around these parts, boy" attitude, it becomes a problem.

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Post by sentient 6 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:11 am

Mortal wrote:

It is definitely weird stuff.

Well, I never said it was " weird ". I was mainly coming at this from a artistic pov and thinking it was a bit of a retreading of previous concept.
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Post by sentient 6 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:20 am

For the record, those new songs are growing on me. And as far as the lyrics of Fallen go, there is scriptural precedent in Ezekiel 28 to write in that way. I really wouldn't make a big issue out of the way that song was written.

....but please no comment....I just wanted to point that out.
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Post by eatbugs on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:33 am

Fanboy here.  This is great stuff.  I love the choral/layered vocals on "Fallen" and "Yahweh."  There's also a passionate harshness in the final choruses that I don't remember hearing from Michael Sweet before.  Don't hurt your vocal cords Gipperman. Rockin Loud

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:34 am

Michael the archangel sets a good example to live by in Jude 1:9.

When doing battle with satan, he never stopped to discuss anything with satan, but simply said "The Lord rebuke thee."

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:42 am

Mortal wrote:
I'll never understand why being a huge fan - or "fan boy" -
Is deemed bad.

Being a fanboy isn't bad in itself.

But when individual thought is drowned out by fanboys, it becomes a problem.

When fanboys adopt the "You aint from around these parts, boy" attitude, it becomes a problem.


No one here could care less if you like Stryper or not...and this isn't about a "You aint from around these parts, boy" attitude.

It's about someone who apparently has some hidden agenda that makes them go out of their way to criticize and put down anything the band does and pick arguments with anyone who dares to like them. Are you that desperate for attention? Or just crazy in general Twisted Evil ?



Getting back on topic....

How many singles will be released before the cd comes out? Is this the last one?


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Post by sentient 6 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:42 am

Mortal wrote:Michael the archangel sets a good example to live by in Jude 1:9.

When doing battle with satan, he never stopped to discuss anything with satan, but simply said "The Lord rebuke thee."


Sure, and I would pretty much agree with that. But I think Michael was simply echoing Ezekiel 28 in Fallen, but I could be wrong. But anyway, I wouldn't make it a deal breaker from liking the song.

....but with that said....lets respect Karams warnings. Smile
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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:22 am

sentient 6 wrote:For the record, those new songs are growing on me. And as far as the lyrics of Fallen go, there is scriptural precedent in Ezekiel 28 to write in that way.  
Word.

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Post by deathisgain on Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:50 am

Like I mentioned the old hockey joke before, I once went to a fight, and a Stryper thread broke out.
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Post by Candlemass on Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:25 pm

deathisgain wrote:Like I mentioned the old hockey joke before, I once went to a fight, and a Stryper thread broke out.

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Post by KaramKaram on Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:02 am

Release day it's here!

Have you gotten your copy?

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Post by Professor_Valconian on Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:10 am

Yep. Listening now. Loving it so far.
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Post by metaldude on Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:33 pm

I've been through it a couple of times now. My first reaction is to say it's stronger than it's predecessor, but only time will tell. Yahweh, Fallen, and Pride are heavier than usual tunes. The cover of After Forever is good, but I think I would still prefer the Deliverance version. I will admit, Stryper annihilated the middle section of the song, especially the lead break. Till I Get What I Need should be a good live tune (and I predict it to be Alldat's favorite, being under 3 minutes).

Overall, I think I'm enjoying it more than I expected.
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Post by MikeInFla on Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:39 pm

Hasn't come in yet, I ordered it from the Stryper website.... Anyone else order from there?
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Post by Friday13th on Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:52 pm

Picked it up at Best Buy and I'm loving it! Just as consistent as NMHTP but heavier. If you haven't already, just buy it. Gonna stick my foot in and say it's their best yet.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:48 pm

Pre-Ordered from Amazon have yet to spin it

Will put in my 2 cents in a couple days
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Post by Professor_Valconian on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:54 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:Pre-Ordered from Amazon have yet to spin it

Will put in my 2 cents in a couple days

It came with Auto Rip ... download the MP3s now and enjoy.
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Post by Professor_Valconian on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:57 pm

This is a superlative album. Never thought I would say this, but it may top their best (and my favorite) ... Soldiers Under Command.

Really loving Love You Like I Do and King of Kings.
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Post by KaramKaram on Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:37 pm

Nice reviews

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Different version than the US release?

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Post by Verbum Lux on Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:32 pm

This album is SUPERB.  It's funny, I was never into Stryper until I bought NMHTP, which I became a massive fan of.  I had high expectations for this album, and thankfully I wasn't let down.  This is a heavier, more aggressive sound and I'm loving it.  It's going to be a stronger contender for my album of the year.  Well done, gentlemen.
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Post by eatbugs on Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:40 pm

^ The Japanese version has a bonus track ( Mad a rant for a different thread).  E-bay has it but it's $25 or more plus gobs more in shipping from Japan.

To echo Professor Valconian it may top their best release (To Hell With the Devil  tongue ), although those "first era" albums have a special place in many of our hearts and may never be topped from a nostalgia standpoint.  For the title song alone To Hell With the Devil is still the pinnacle Stryper album for me.  To the uninitiated though, probably Fallen tops No More Hell to Pay which tops anything from the 80's.

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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:38 pm

First time ever I opted for iTunes version over CD so I could listen to it day one. This album has so many highlights I get the impression I will listen to it many more times than NMHTP.

Some of their contemporaries might want to tap MS to help produce for them. Stryper is showing the other 80's bands how to do it.

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Post by MikeInFla on Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:39 pm

Just came in the mailbox today.  Playing now. Love it so far, better than the last one. Normally I order.from iTunes but I decided to get the physical CD. Also came with a free sticker of the cover art.
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Post by alldatndensum on Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:47 pm

I got mine yesterday but have only gotten to hear it once.  I liked what I heard but need to listen a couple more times before I give my opinion.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:54 pm

Professor_Valconian wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:Pre-Ordered from Amazon have yet to spin it

Will put in my 2 cents in a couple days

It came with Auto Rip ... download the MP3s now and enjoy.

I should have said "Ordered from Amazon have not had a chance to spin it yet"

I just got back from going deer hunting and listened to it twice on the way back

So far there are more likeable tracks for me than NMHTP
The first 4 are really solid songs and the ballad, After Forever and Till I Get What I Need are strong tracks at the end of the album so far my faves are the title track and After Forever

But thats only after 2 spins Wink
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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:34 pm

Love the album so far.

Not ready to say it is better than NMHTP, but it definitely can hold its own.

Some of the songs from NMHTP like Revelation, NMHTP, Sympathy and Legacy are among my all-time favorite Stryper tunes....so it will be hard for me to declare the new album "better" than NMHTP. With that being said, it is still awesome.

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Post by Follower of Jesus on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:01 am

When this album "hits" it is far and away the best Stryper I have ever heard. Songs like Yahweh, Fallen, Pride and my early favorite -  The Calling - are just metal monsters. I feel like the record lulls a bit in the middle. Songs like Heaven, All Over Again, and Love You Like I Do are not bad; I just lose interest. The cover tune is darn good. Things begin to pick back up with Till I Get What I Need and Let There Be Light. The album closes with two more scorchers in The Calling and King of Kings. Overall I like it better than NMHTP because of the heavier guitar tone.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:11 am

Follower of Jesus wrote:When this album "hits" it is far and away the best Stryper I have ever heard. Songs like Yahweh, Fallen, Pride and my early favorite -  The Calling - are just metal monsters. I feel like the record lulls a bit in the middle. Songs like Heaven, All Over Again, and Love You Like I Do are not bad; I just lose interest. The cover tune is darn good. Things begin to pick back up with Till I Get What I Need and Let There Be Light. The album closes with two more scorchers in The Calling and King of Kings. Overall I like it better than NMHTP because of the heavier guitar tone.
Thats what I thought also is that the middle is kinda meh, not that they are bad just not as strong as the rest of the album
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Post by messiaen77 on Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:41 am

MikeInFla wrote:Just came in the mailbox today.  Playing now. Love it so far, better than the last one. Normally I order.from iTunes but I decided to get the physical CD. Also came with a free sticker of the cover art.
Glad you beat your wife to the mailbox!
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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:15 am

What Id like to know is what made Stryper Choose After Forever?  I guess I am wondering if there were other possible covers that were being considered. And whose idea was it?

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Post by Follower of Jesus on Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:34 pm

Is it just me or does it seem like Robert was cut loose for this record? I notice the drumming on Fallen more than I ever have previously. Maybe it's the production, I don't know. It just seems that Rob sounds better than ever on this record.
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Post by Black Rider on Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:41 pm

Enjoying it a lot, I can forgive them for Reborn now.  Razz
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Post by jeffcorpse on Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:33 am

Love this! Probably my favorite Stryper!
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Post by MikeInFla on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:08 pm

I thought this was a cool video:

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